Thread: Scud the Bull Terrier
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12-16-2006, 04:46 AM #41Originally Posted by kman
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12-16-2006, 04:56 AM #42Originally Posted by Jay-Ace
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12-16-2006, 05:18 AM #43
ok so yeh staffordshire terriers are not pure breed either. any dogs crossed to make other dogs are not pure breeds. as with bull terrier. i dont care if its a english bull terrier. the original old english terriers and old english bull dogs are not extict which were the founders of the bull terriers instantly making it non pure breed. let alone all the other animals tested to make the best dog.
purpose! the purpose of the breeding was to make the best looking dog for the eye in companionship, not fighting which took place later in its history.
creation! modern bull terriers. are thought to be from the old english white terriers and bulldogs. many other dogs were suggested to have been put in the blood line rangeing from dalmation, greyhound, foxhound, collie, brozoi, and a few others.
color! the frist terriers were called white bull terriers because they were all white, james hinks was one of the original breeders and only breed white due the the populartiy shown! in other testing of developement of the bull terrier, ted lyon introduced the colored bull terrier acceptance into breeding. all modern bull terriers are "colored" terriers even the ones that are completely white.
ears! ear cropping was stopped to the kennel club in 1895. the ears took a natural turn tulip shape. which was banned from dog fights aswell. harry monk was responsible for this.
head! not exactly sure on memory how they got the modern egg shaped head but it was through breeding that they came to the modern bull terrier.
a little history for the ignorant, NO bull terrier is PURE BREED. u can join kennel clubs obviously, u can get the papers. some may call or claim pure breed. but its impossible for a bull terrier to be pure breed, this applys with staffordshire terrier and pitbull terrier. im leaving this topic to talk about bull terriers and im not going to argue about facts and history because you are wrong.
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12-16-2006, 05:42 AM #44Originally Posted by Jay-Ace
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12-16-2006, 05:51 AM #45Originally Posted by Foskamink
Get a life you fvcking idiot!! Even mentioning that you're gonna "make a mess of my name"... what the hell does that mean?? I seriously doubt you're even an adult now, are you sure you're over 18 coz you have t be 18 to use this board!!
You have rather stupidly come onto a forum that without doubt has some very avid dog fanciers, and you've chosen to argue with old school English guys about our favourite heritage breed, the bull terrier.
The fact that you are stupid enough to think that a dog which has been either selectively bred or has not existed in it's current state for 5 million years, is not a pedigree, is just absolutely fvcking hilarious!!
Besides the fact that I asked if your dog was pedigree (I never mentioned the word purebreed) and then you said that no pedigre exists for Bull Terriers, including Staffordshire. But while we're here lets examine the meaning of the word pedigree, and in general the dog world.
If we were to go by your definition, what dog would be a purebreed then?? Coz the way you're spouting sh1t it would only be a wolf!! (Twat)
The word pedigree means to have a known lineage or genealogical history, more specifically with dogs is that the lineage is known to the Kennel Club or other relevant society. This is what makes a pedigree, the fact that we can trace or dogs ancestors back 10, 20, 30 generations!!
Even your use of the word purebreed is incorrect, so lets change it from now on to the corect term which is purebred. An extracted definition from wikipedia follows...
Purebreds, also called purebreeds or pedigreed, are cultivated varieties or cultivars of a species, achieved through the process of selective breeding. When the lineage of a purebred is recorded, that animal is said to be pedigreed. Therefore, although the terms are often used sysnonymously, there is a difference: all pedigreed animals are purebred, but not all purebred animals are pedigreed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purebred, pp.1, ex. 16/12/06
Now, I am very sorry that your Bull Terrier is not a pedigree. However...
DO NOT start spouting BS like you have a clue what you're talking about!!
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12-16-2006, 06:16 AM #46
Fosk if you're gonna argue about dog breeds lineage back really far then you're an idiot, No dog has purebred lineage all the way back in time. They were domesticated from wolves remember?
2000 years ago there were no packs of staffys running around staffordshire, no rhodesian ridgebacks running around rhodesia.....is that what makes a pedigree in your daft little lala land?
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12-16-2006, 06:21 AM #47
have to agree with jay-ace here dude. The only "purebreed" based on your definition would be a wolf.
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12-16-2006, 07:11 AM #48
english and stafford bull terriers alike are Pedigree dogs mate,no question......
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12-16-2006, 07:12 AM #49
[QUOTE=Snrfmaster]Fosk if you're gonna argue about dog breeds lineage back really far then you're an idiot, No dog has purebred lineage all the way back in time. They were domesticated from wolves remember?
2000 years ago there were no packs of staffys running around staffordshire, no rhodesian ridgebacks running around rhodesia.....is that what makes a pedigree in your daft little lala land?[/QUOTE]_____________________
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12-16-2006, 10:29 AM #50
wow i was gona say nice looking dog, ole minky, but looks like you have stirred the shit and everyone is giving you hell about it..... oh well good looking dog anyway....
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12-16-2006, 10:31 AM #51
still a lovely puppy... I just hope it doesn't grow up to be a postwhore!
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12-16-2006, 10:43 AM #52Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
Yeah still a lovely pup!!
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Originally Posted by Jay-Ace
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12-16-2006, 11:18 AM #54Originally Posted by Foskamink
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12-16-2006, 11:25 AM #55Originally Posted by Foskamink
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12-16-2006, 11:27 AM #56
ok guys easy on the insults!! I think he has eaten enough humble pie for one day.
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12-16-2006, 11:30 AM #57Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
leave it at that,anymore from anyone and the thread will say by by........._____________________
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We still love you Foskamink.
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12-16-2006, 11:39 AM #59
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12-16-2006, 11:56 AM #60Associate Member
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lol. How about some more pics of the pup, maybe some of him eatin your shoes
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12-16-2006, 12:28 PM #61Originally Posted by Jay-Ace
"Introduced into Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) in the 1870’s, several big-game hunters, including Cornelius von Rooyen, recognized the value of the breed for hunting lions and established selective breeding in that country"
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12-16-2006, 12:33 PM #62Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
Wow, I didn't know that!!
That's impressive, lovely dogs too!!
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12-16-2006, 01:02 PM #63
Awwww hes cute.. only a dog can make me talk with one of those gay voices lol
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12-16-2006, 01:04 PM #64
im not going to make a big arguement out of this, but there is a incredible difference in bull terriers history of breeding and being completely mixed compared to a dog like a golden retreiver. no bull terrier are given pedigree papers in france, because it is impossible to be. im just repeating the law here.
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12-16-2006, 01:12 PM #65
no more arguements please, i have a big habit of argueing points that im told by people looking of "reliable source"
for some reason i always seam to get my ass beat over it too.
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12-16-2006, 01:12 PM #66
Rottweilers are my all time favorite dog. So much personality and life. I hear that you wont find a more loyal dog than a Newfoundland. As for a hunting dog, you can't go wrong with a bearhound, bread and raised to hunt bears, now that is a bad ass dog.
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12-16-2006, 01:21 PM #67
my brother got a new dog today that we didnt plan its a Newfoundland. its really relaxed and easy going loves to sleep and stuff. really friendly and not agressive.
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12-16-2006, 01:44 PM #68
omg, i put those piss mats down and he did his first piss on the mat!!! what a good boy, got a nice doggy treat too
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12-16-2006, 01:48 PM #69Originally Posted by Foskamink
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12-16-2006, 01:49 PM #70
i can see this thread being updated every time scud does anything.
07:52 OMG Scud just yawned guys
07:53 OMG Scud just fell asleep guys
07:59 He's awake again guys
08:01 Guys he just took a dump, his first dump! I'm so proud!...and so on....
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12-16-2006, 02:00 PM #71Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
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12-16-2006, 02:05 PM #72
21:10 scud took a shit in the middle of my carpet!
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12-16-2006, 02:25 PM #73
he has a sexy studded collar. with a chain lesh.
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12-16-2006, 03:24 PM #74
20:30 scud has fallen asleep on my bed
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12-16-2006, 05:33 PM #75
LOL @ how this thread turned out
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He is cute but i think he might need to grow into that collar a little.
Lets help him along. I have some tren and gh left over from my last cycle.
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12-16-2006, 06:10 PM #77
i need to grow into my collar, can i have the tren and gh gsxxr?
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12-16-2006, 06:49 PM #78Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
No you get just an extra Bonio
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12-16-2006, 06:54 PM #79
Only if you give me the bonio while wearing nothing but the studded leather collar....and chain leash if you must...
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12-16-2006, 06:58 PM #80
i got some orals from mexico. i androlin or somthing. i got 40 days worth. 3 per day. gives me ideas for his first **ay
oh and i got mugged 2night by some black guy with a knife.
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