A soldiers story

[SS1476]

We fight there? No, no, no, we become sitting ducks there doing nothing but trying to preserve a fragile government... The war isn't going to be brought over here... I mean, hell, now that we went into Iraq and ****ed it up, the Jihadist movement and hate for America is even greater so who knows. What we did was illegal, immoral, and unethical... A soldier standing up against a deceiving government is just one step closer to our goal of ending this mistake of a war. Those 3,000 dead soldiers will in all have died for nothing. Sure they fought for their country, but it was for nothing... They died for the lies and deceit of a man with a grudge.

Liberals at their best...or something.

First off,the jihad movement starts with
wahabism<sp> not us buddy.The muslims
who force their children to chant all day
in medrasas are what breed terroists..c'mon.
Please know what your talking about before
saying silly things like this.Liberal talking
points can only go so far against facts!

Plain and simple for you bud,and other that
feel the same way..

-17 U.N. Resolutions Against Iraq over ~14yrs.

-U.N. Oil for food scandal involving france,Russia..

-World knew Sadaams threat,but had no balls to enforce.


Resolution 1441 signed UNANIMOUSLY<sp> by all 15 countries
on the security council,INCLUDING SYRIA..15-0 Vote.

We had the right,and we enforced it.We are the
super power,and the the UN did nothing to back
their own words,it had to be done.

Whatever liberals say...In time,Iraqi's will speak
out,and be very thankful for thier freedom,sure it
can and WILL get better,but things take time.

[Fordfan01]

Fordfan good luck with Seal training. Worked with several Seals they are exceptional warriors

Thanks Shane ive been working my butt off so hopefully it will pay off

[dhriscerr]

So maybe we didnt find WMD's, but irregardless, Saddam had used them before and killed thousands of Kurds in the north, did you ever see any of the tourture chambers in Iraq, Did you see the palaces this man lived in while his people starved and lived in poverty, were you there when children would come up to you and say thank you in broken english and see the smiles on there faces because they now have a chance at life? I was, trust me the media doesnt portray that side of things. No matter of my opinion on the war and how we went about it, because it was a poor job of planning, Saddam had to be overthrown to even give this country a chance. And really we gave him a timeline, and we had inspectors they chose not to abide by the regulations. With a come and try it kind of attitude, you know your asking for trouble. Also the problem now is both the shiites and sunni's have more equal power and can finnally fight each other and thats why there is bloodshed now and not when saddam was in power, before Saddam just made sure the sunni's would prevail with his army and crooked polics and judges, so the shiites were to scared to stand up for themselves.

[BajanBastard]

U.S and British troops are fighting people who would cut my throat in a heartbeat. I know whos side i'm on.

[Logan13]

Regardless, thanks to all of the service men and women in here, both past and present, who put their lives on the line to conserve our way of life.

[king6]

Thanks Shane ive been working my butt off so hopefully it will pay off

Make use of your time off in BUDS, and get some rest. Take a mulit V as well, you will most likley get the recruit crud, another name for the flu that lasts forever.

[Fordfan01]

Make use of your time off in BUDS, and get some rest. Take a mulit V as well, you will most likley get the recruit crud, another name for the flu that lasts forever.

Thanks for the advice. Ive been doin all i can studing up and preparing for BUDS. I got another year or so before i go so i hope i will be ready by then. Are or were u a SEAL king?

[CSAR]

Thanks for the advice. Ive been doin all i can studing up and preparing for BUDS. I got another year or so before i go so i hope i will be ready by then. Are or were u a SEAL king?

Get real comfortable in the water. Know your drownproofing steps, the 5 knots you will have to tie underwater, various swim strokes including butterfly, and buddy towing. Practice hypoxics to build up your lung capacity and be able to swim 50 m underwater without breaking a sweat.

Go to an Army/Navy surplus store and stock up on cammies, wool socks, and get a couple pairs of Bates boots w/o steel toes. Get a couple BUD/S issue Ka-bar knives and get them razor sharp. You'll get issued equipment, but it'll all be used by previous BUD/S students and won't be in the best of condition. Plus, nothing sucks worse than having to change out of a cold, wet sandy uniform into another cold, wet sandy uniform. The extra cammies, socks, and boots will help keep you dry, although it won't be for very long...but every little bit helps.

[king6]

Get real comfortable in the water. Know your drownproofing steps, the 5 knots you will have to tie underwater, various swim strokes including butterfly, and buddy towing. Practice hypoxics to build up your lung capacity and be able to swim 50 m underwater without breaking a sweat.

Go to an Army/Navy surplus store and stock up on cammies, wool socks, and get a couple pairs of Bates boots w/o steel toes. Get a couple BUD/S issue Ka-bar knives and get them razor sharp. You'll get issued equipment, but it'll all be used by previous BUD/S students and won't be in the best of condition. Plus, nothing sucks worse than having to change out of a cold, wet sandy uniform into another cold, wet sandy uniform. The extra cammies, socks, and boots will help keep you dry, although it won't be for very long...but every little bit helps.

Excellent advice. Also get a brick and practice treading water for 5 min while holding the brick over your head. We have to do that for Marine WSQ water training. I never though it was possible to break a sweat in the water before.

[zodiac666]

Thanks for the advice. Ive been doin all i can studing up and preparing for BUDS. I got another year or so before i go so i hope i will be ready by then. Are or were u a SEAL king?

and of course train hardcore for endurance, you dont want to be huge going in there. also i have heard that to be an excellent swimmer you shouldnt be too shredded, a small amount of bodyfat will help you float and make it easier to swim.

are you in the military now?

[Fordfan01]

and of course train hardcore for endurance, you dont want to be huge going in there. also i have heard that to be an excellent swimmer you shouldnt be too shredded, a small amount of bodyfat will help you float and make it easier to swim.

are you in the military now?

No i am goin to finish up college first then i am goin to join and get my BUDS contract

[Fordfan01]

Thanks for the advise Csar zodiac and king im not planning to get too cut and yea ive been making love to the water for a while now lol my dad was a navy diver so he has been helping me train i can run a 5 min mile and swim 500 yards in about 11 min

[Fordfan01]

Fell free to shoot me a pm if yall think of any more helpful tips every little bit helps

[MuscleScience]

the last time we were invaded was 1812, so i don't really feel like my freedoms are owed to the military.

Apathetic and you dont know history, Uh Pearl Harbor maybe. December 7th 1941, plus if it wasnt for the military a vast majority of the world would be speaking german right now. Its good that there are people like you so we can spark debate.

[SVTMuscle*]

I just think that President Bush has lied so much to the American people and congress that some soldiers don't want to die for something they don't believe in.

How about the fact that, if he was in an Iraqi and refused to do an order he would be killed on the spot. He's a hypocrit if you ask me. "I want to sign up and brag I'm a soldier. I just don't want to fight". He is in the Army to serve and protect, not to voice his opinion.

[LawMan018]

Liberals at their best...or something.

First off,the jihad movement starts with
wahabism<sp> not us buddy.The muslims
who force their children to chant all day
in medrasas are what breed terroists..c'mon.
Please know what your talking about before
saying silly things like this.Liberal talking
points can only go so far against facts!

Plain and simple for you bud,and other that
feel the same way..

-17 U.N. Resolutions Against Iraq over ~14yrs.

-U.N. Oil for food scandal involving france,Russia..

-World knew Sadaams threat,but had no balls to enforce.


Resolution 1441 signed UNANIMOUSLY<sp> by all 15 countries
on the security council,INCLUDING SYRIA..15-0 Vote.

We had the right,and we enforced it.We are the
super power,and the the UN did nothing to back
their own words,it had to be done.

Whatever liberals say...In time,Iraqi's will speak
out,and be very thankful for thier freedom,sure it
can and WILL get better,but things take time.

For one, I didn't say we created Jihadism by going over there, I said it has gotten stronger, everwhere... And again, why did they vote in favor??? Um... Let's see... We were lied too... Anyone who is lied to and made to believe they were in danger suely would have voted for... And I can say "we" if I damn please. It wasn't the military that decided to go over there it was the politics, and who voted for the politicans, we did. Hence, I can use "we" as freely as I please. Oh and about Saddam's torture chambers and the way he treated people... Okay... So what? It isn't the U.S.'s job to go into every shit hole and clean it up, if it is... Why not go to Korea? I mean, surely they are a much greater threat then Saddam ever was... Oh wait, what's that stuff called? Oil..

[LawMan018]

Oh and another thing. I had planned on going into the Marine Corps last July. The entire time my recruiter was telling me not to mention that I had formally had ADHD... The final show at MEPS a few days before I wanted to come clean. One, because my job was going to be very high security and I'm sure they would have done a search to make sure I was applicable. And two, because I didn't want them to find out and think I'm untrustworthy and give me a shit job. So I told them. They asked for documents and told me everything was cool. I gave them the documents. They kept me at MEPS for 8 hours and talked with me for about 20 minutes of that 8 hours and said the documents weren't enough. I tried to get more... They told me I didn't need more but I needed some character references. As soon as I heard that I had had enough of this bullshit (not to mention it had almost been a month). Because I used to have ADHD over two years ago doesn't make me a bad person, why the hell would I need a character reference. So I went to college instead...

[zodiac666]

Oh and another thing. I had planned on going into the Marine Corps last July. The entire time my recruiter was telling me not to mention that I had formally had ADHD... The final show at MEPS a few days before I wanted to come clean. One, because my job was going to be very high security and I'm sure they would have done a search to make sure I was applicable. And two, because I didn't want them to find out and think I'm untrustworthy and give me a shit job. So I told them. They asked for documents and told me everything was cool. I gave them the documents. They kept me at MEPS for 8 hours and talked with me for about 20 minutes of that 8 hours and said the documents weren't enough. I tried to get more... They told me I didn't need more but I needed some character references. As soon as I heard that I had had enough of this bullshit (not to mention it had almost been a month). Because I used to have ADHD over two years ago doesn't make me a bad person, why the hell would I need a character reference. So I went to college instead...

thats why your recruiter told you just not to mention it, so you wouldnt have to do all the extra paperwork. anyway a terrible loss for our armed forces.

[king6]

My recruiter told me to keep my mouth shut too, and I did. No harm no foul.

[SS1476]

I'll keep this short,sometimes I talk too far..

Lied about what??

Please stop and listen.


Clinton,Gore,Kerry,Edwards,Levin,Murtha
Kennedy,Pelosi,Wrangle..should I go on??
All these senators over the last 8-10 yrs
have ALL repeated the same damn thing
about Sadaam and the WMD lie thing..say U.

Liberals have been out of power,they put
our country at risk bashing Bush,when in fact
they all knew the same thing.Sure you can he lied...
But if that were true,why was it passed in congress?

Ohh...wait,Kerry: "I voted for it,before i voted against it"
And thasts funding our troops..the shame,for he was no
hero,and has turned his back on this country twice now.

For one, I didn't say we created Jihadism by going over there, I said it has gotten stronger, everwhere... And again, why did they vote in favor??? Um... Let's see... We were lied too... Anyone who is lied to and made to believe they were in danger suely would have voted for... And I can say "we" if I damn please. It wasn't the military that decided to go over there it was the politics, and who voted for the politicans, we did. Hence, I can use "we" as freely as I please. Oh and about Saddam's torture chambers and the way he treated people.....

Okay... So what? It isn't the U.S.'s job to go into every shit hole and clean it up, if it is... Why not go to Korea? I mean, surely they are a much greater threat then Saddam ever was... Oh wait, what's that stuff called? Oil

Yes..it is,we have morals and care
about the human race,even when
they hate us in return..C'mon.

DONT FORGET...SADAAM paid 250,000
dollars to each family of a suicide bomber
in Insreal..known fact bro.Sadaam was
lying to us for years..

Rememeber the Tsunami last X-mas???
Who was there..US,in full force.What did
we get in return,Al Qaueda t-shirt wearin
fools taking handouts from the American GI.

So yes..we are needed to clean this world up
if you think this is bad now,wait until Iran really
steps up their BS..What are going to say then?
its bush' fault because he doesnt talk with a
terrorist sponsor state,for many radical.

North korea is not?was not a bigger threat that
Iraq..plain and simple.Kim Jon Ill is nothing more
than a spoile brat who re-nigged on Clintons deal
(while getting head) and continued with the nukes.

Either way,thats a silly comment.CHINA will handle
North Korea if it ever got to the point of getting
worse.We are there to help South korea,in case.

[J.S.N.]

Apathetic and you dont know history, Uh Pearl Harbor maybe. December 7th 1941, plus if it wasnt for the military a vast majority of the world would be speaking german right now. Its good that there are people like you so we can spark debate.

you don't know what an invasion is. btw you do know britain and france declared war on germany right?

[dhriscerr]

I think we went to haiti and cleaned up that shit hole! Grenada, there quite a few shitholes we've gone into

[FLBMWMech]

the last time we were invaded was 1812, so i don't really feel like my freedoms are owed to the military.

Know why we haven't been invaded?? OUR MILITARY! They serve and defend us from our many enemies abroad. Because of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force keeping us safe, those people you see chanting "Death to America!" are 2000 miles away instead of over running your neighborhood.

Remember-- Those muslim extremists would kill you and everyone you care about if they only had 1/2 the chance.
But a US Soldier will defend you even if you're a pathetic snivelling liberal who has nothing but contempt for the serviceman while he's defending you.

[MuscleScience]

you don't know what an invasion is. btw you do know britain and france declared war on germany right?

Dude no offense but you really dont understand your history very well. First of all pearl harbor was the first strike in an invasion of US military bases in the pacific. The Philipines were a huge US base of operations and they were invaded. If you recall the battle of midway the Japanese had thousands of troops that were there it invade the military base. The small marine garrison along with the US navy laid a trap for the Japanese to draw in thier carrier fleet. The planned invasion was repelled and most of the japanese carriers were either sunk or badly damaged. Second I would call traveling thousands of miles across the pacific ocean and bombing a US installation on american soil and invasion just because no boots were on the ground its no different than the germans aerial invasion of britain. Lastly the reason that britain and france declared war on germany is because of the invasion of poland among other acts of war the germans committed. But the more you try to argue points the more apparent it is that you dont have a good understanding of the topic you argue.

[Shane35aa]

I never saw Bush or Cheney cruising around in a Ferrari, or clubing with Paris Hilton.

To bad...Be funny as hell if he shot her in the face

[SS1476]

To bad...Be funny as hell if he shot her in the face

With....

[Shane35aa]

either