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    it was cliff burton and he was a freakin god with that bass.

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    Cliff burton is a bass god.

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    man, i often think about what it would have been like if randy rhoads jammed with cliff burton.

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    I'm surprised there's not more votes for Kill 'Em All, fukin kick ass album. All of them from Kill 'Em to the Black album are great, after that its starts to fall off. Those albums kick ass from beginning to end!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedic8ed1
    I'm more of a fan of the oldschool stuff like ride the lightning and master

    yeah, ride the lightning is good. I like the older stuff... im not really diggin their newer music. St.anger was certainly not their best album if you ask me, I dont see why so many people dig it so much.

    but I wake the roomies up everymornin to metallica, So Fvcking WHAT??!!

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    [QUOTE=Intruder]
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    A good album to rock to for everydayers, but to the metal community this is a disgrace of an album b/c Metallica were and still are gods and innovators of thrash (particuarly bay area thrash, but Kill'em All is considered to be one of the first thrash albums). After 4 solid albums they traded in their pounding thrash sound and sold out by adding in weak riffs and softer volcals. They saw that this style of music would make them more money and then put out a few more shameful albums. It really all went downhill when Cliff Benton passed died he was the guy that used to keep the band on track and thrash oriented. after him Jason Newsted took over and they put out their final "good" album And Justice for All. Thats the Black album in a nut shell to the metal community, I personally love this album b/c it was the first metal I ever listened to way back in second grade and have been hooked since it has a sentimental meaning for me, but lets get back to the question either Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning is my choice


    Wasn't it Cliff Burton?
    Yea it was I must have been thinking Glen Benton fro Deicide but you know who I mean

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    the black album hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenceguy
    don't know if theres many metallica fans out there. but for those of you with taste, whats your favorite album.
    everyone except the last one...........

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    ride the lightening..............

    but I would take MEGADETH any day over metallica.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails best metallica album-megadeth.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboss
    ride the lightening..............

    but I would take MEGADETH any day over metallica.
    Can't go wrong with a little vic rattlehead
    Their new one 'United Abominations' is supposed to be very good and last I read it's 100% complete so it should be out soon

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    Prepare the patients scalp
    To peel away
    Metal caps his ears
    He'll hear not what we say
    Solid steel visor
    Riveted cross his eyes
    Iron staples close his jaws
    So no one hears his cries

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboss
    Prepare the patients scalp
    To peel away
    Metal caps his ears
    He'll hear not what we say
    Solid steel visor
    Riveted cross his eyes
    Iron staples close his jaws
    So no one hears his cries
    Skull beneath the skin right? From killing is my business which is pretty much the origin of vic or at least what he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by theboss
    ride the lightening..............

    but I would take MEGADETH any day over metallica.
    hellz yeah. "rust in peace" > any other commerical thrash album. friedman and mustaine shit all over hammet and hetfield. hammett's got the worst ears of anyone who's ever achieved guitar god staus. he has some of thoe most out of pitch bends and worst timing, no wonder he relies on so much wah-wah.

    check them out playing hangar 18 on arsenio:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veyWP-2WUGk

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    hellz yeah. "rust in peace" > any other commerical thrash album. friedman and mustaine shit all over hammet and hetfield. hammett's got the worst ears of anyone who's ever achieved guitar god staus. he has some of thoe most out of pitch bends and worst timing, no wonder he relies on so much wah-wah.

    check them out playing hangar 18 on arsenio:

    http://www.quotenet.nl/2004/10/13/american%20psycho.jpg
    You realize that Mustaine started with Metallica and is now a born-again christain, right? And yes, he was a metal pioneer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    You realize that Mustaine started with Metallica and is now a born-again christain, right? And yes, he was a metal pioneer!
    of course. they used all his material all the way up to "...and justice for all" which is why everything sucks so hard after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    You realize that Mustaine started with Metallica and is now a born-again christain, right? And yes, he was a metal pioneer!
    the best is when you hear interviews with mustaine about hearing hammet playing all his songs and all he has to say is they were mine i played them better. Mustaine rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    of course. they used all his material all the way up to "...and justice for all" which is why everything sucks so hard after that.
    Who told you that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Who told you that?
    I know Kill em all and ride the lightning were his works you can find that in most metal news archives, but I'm not sure about Master of puppets and Totally just don't know about and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Who told you that?
    it's a well-known fact in the metal community. he sued them over songwriting credit but got ****ed over because he was a band member at the time. he got to use some of his songs as megadeth songs though. they made one thrash album "kill 'em all" and three of the same "post-trash" albums then degenerated into a shitty hard rock band. they couldn't keep remaking his songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24labor
    I know Kill em all and ride the lightning were his works you can find that in most metal news archives, but I'm not sure about Master of puppets and Totally just don't know about and justice for all.
    naw, but MOP and kill 'em all are the same album as ride the lightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    it's a well-known fact in the metal community. he sued them over songwriting credit but got ****ed over because he was a band member at the time. he got to use some of his songs as megadeth songs though. they made one thrash album "kill 'em all" and three of the same "post-trash" albums then degenerated into a shitty hard rock band. they couldn't keep remaking his songs.
    I know he is credited for one of the songs of of Mater of Puppets but, yea he was fired after kicking Lar's dog or something like that they said he had a drug problem and stole his songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    naw, but MOP and kill 'em all are the same album as ride the lightening.
    true some say AJFA was the true begining of the end for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24labor
    true some say AJFA was the true begining of the end for them
    yeah it's a really dry, stale-sounding album, although the members improved technically to that point. personally i used ot listen to all the old metallica albums when i was young but i can't bear to listen to them now. there's no complexity to their song structures, just one Eminor riff after the other, hammett could keep pitch if it was velcroed to his pubes, and lars' drumming is pitiful. it doesn't matter what time sig the guitar riff is in, here comes old lars in a medium tempo 4/4 every time. they would have been 10x the band if they had someone like potnoy hitting the sticks.

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    METTALLICA SUCKS A$$...but Master is their best in MHO. I only think they suck ass because after watching their documentary, all I could think is what a bunch of whiney beaoches and they were a bunch of beaotches about the Napster thing especially Lars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    yeah it's a really dry, stale-sounding album, although the members improved technically to that point. personally i used ot listen to all the old metallica albums when i was young but i can't bear to listen to them now. there's no complexity to their song structures, just one Eminor riff after the other, hammett could keep pitch if it was velcroed to his pubes, and lars' drumming is pitiful. it doesn't matter what time sig the guitar riff is in, here comes old lars in a medium tempo 4/4 every time. they would have been 10x the band if they had someone like potnoy hitting the sticks.
    Damn right I mean music after RTL all kind of flowed together kinda like some of overkill's less featured albums, but still respectable. Imagine if cliff didn't die and they were still putting out albums like the old days today

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24labor
    Damn right I mean music after RTL all kind of flowed together kinda like some of overkill's less featured albums, but still respectable. Imagine if cliff didn't die and they were still putting out albums like the old days today
    personally i think cliff burton is highly overrated just because he died and they have the bass solo (which isn't exactly victor wooten shit) on anesthesia. for the most part you never hear the bass on any metallica tracks because it just pulses the root note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    personally i think cliff burton is highly overrated just because he died and they have the bass solo (which isn't exactly victor wooten shit) on anesthesia. for the most part you never hear the bass on any metallica tracks because it just pulses the root note.
    You have a point bass was first really noticed during the black album but I mean more from the aspect of keeping things together musicly and non-sell out wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    it's a well-known fact in the metal community. he sued them over songwriting credit but got ****ed over because he was a band member at the time. he got to use some of his songs as megadeth songs though. they made one thrash album "kill 'em all" and three of the same "post-trash" albums then degenerated into a shitty hard rock band. they couldn't keep remaking his songs.
    It is plausible, he obviously has alot of talent. But Metallica is an icon(7th best selling band of all time) whatever way we try to cut it. What part of that they owe to Mustaine is questionable, but not negligible. Sad But True is my favorite song, followed by Harvester of Sorrow and Whisky in the Jar(yes, I know, a remake).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It is plausible, he obviously has alot of talent. But Metallica is an icon(7th best selling band of all time) whatever way we try to cut it. What part of that they owe to Mustaine is questionable, but not negligible. Sad But True is my favorite song, followed by Harvester of Sorrow and Whisky in the Jar(yes, I know, a remake).
    True they are icons, but until 1990 they were really only icons to metal heads then came the black album which the general public started to listen to and like is what really made them the 7th best selling band. It's like this if there was no black album they wouldn't (not 100%) have that 7th slot but would just be icons in the metal community. Now thats not to say people wouldn't pick up some of their albums and like it but lets face it everyone that talks about metallica that isn't a metal fan talks about the black album. Now a days the radio stations play some Metallica songs which have become popular but it all came down to the Black album getting air time and people wanting to know what the other stuff sounds like. Also I wouldn't say it's so much to say they owe Mustaine, but they don't like to talk abut it b/c they've taken all the credit for his songs and when asked they laugh the question off
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    if you like metallica, check out bathory, enslaved, and opeth (sorry about the d-bags in the vid).

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    if you like metallica, check out bathory, enslaved, and opeth (sorry about the d-bags in the vid).
    Bathory Viking metal days of Black metal days?, Enslaved classic. Opeth latest album I feel is their best to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24labor
    Bathory Viking metal days of Black metal days?, Enslaved classic. Opeth latest album I feel is their best to date
    personally i liked quarthon best in his viking phase, but the latest album i have of his "destroyer of worlds," even it has some killer songs on it. nice to see a fellow opeth fan *high five* i like ghost reveries too, although i stil th ink "morningirse" is my fave, or maybe "blackwater park" because it's a better album and the first one i listened to. i have ot say though, their high water mark was definitely "my arms, your hearse." it took me like 3-4 time to even start understading it, then after that every next listen just makes you appreciate akerfeld's genius more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    of course. they used all his material all the way up to "...and justice for all" which is why everything sucks so hard after that.
    are you joking? that's so inaccurate i can't even laugh at your statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    personally i think cliff burton is highly overrated just because he died and they have the bass solo (which isn't exactly victor wooten shit) on anesthesia. for the most part you never hear the bass on any metallica tracks because it just pulses the root note.
    what? overrated. i guess elvis and jimmi hendrix are overrated because they are dead too.

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    by the way i can hear the bass on all metallica tracks. i see dumb people also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYROD
    what? overrated. i guess elvis and jimmi hendrix are overrated because they are dead too.
    that's true, although you misspelled jimi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    that's true, although you misspelled jimi.
    my bad jimi. i guess i'm not a music aficionado (check spelling on that) like yourself but imo cliff burton is the best bass player i've ever heard and comparing megadeth to metallica is like comparing the current miss america to the fat girl that lives down the street. i'm sure metallica doesn't regret the fact that their popularity expanded to where it is today and it had nothing at all to do with dave mustaine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYROD
    are you joking? that's so inaccurate i can't even laugh at your statement.
    well all the way up to AJFA is a little inaccurate but Kill em all and Ride the lightning, well most of those songs were from mustaine. It's such an old topic that its been beaten to death but regardless who wrote it Metallica played it so they do get credit. I mean who ever is really concerned about who wrote something except true followers. Both bands great metallica one of the earliest thrash bands around, but sold out and bit them in the ass they forgot how to play music

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYROD
    i'm sure metallica doesn't regret the fact that their popularity expanded to where it is today and it had nothing at all to do with dave mustaine.
    True mustaine didn't make them popular the black album did and that was the begining of the end for them. It's just most people don't know the battle between Metallica and Mustaine b/c he wrote the songs for metallica so the copyright is under their name and whatever. Hell a lot of people don't even know Mustaine was in the band But as for the popularity straight black album
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    personally i liked quarthon best in his viking phase, but the latest album i have of his "destroyer of worlds," even it has some killer songs on it. nice to see a fellow opeth fan *high five* i like ghost reveries too, although i stil th ink "morningirse" is my fave, or maybe "blackwater park" because it's a better album and the first one i listened to. i have ot say though, their high water mark was definitely "my arms, your hearse." it took me like 3-4 time to even start understading it, then after that every next listen just makes you appreciate akerfeld's genius more and more.
    Yea Opeth takes time to get used to not many people understand thier music. It's like good doom metal, most people think its slow garbage, but you have to listen to it a few times just focusing on the music not playing video games or reading it's tough just to sit down and listen to stuff like that, but good to see a fellow metal follower (High five back atcha)
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