Lounge Or Gym

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 07:43 PM

Thinking of opening either a small gym/spa or a trendy sushi lounge just outside of NYC. I have no experience in either field, but came across a golden opportunity where rent would be 900 a month, as oppose to other bussiness in the area paying 5-9 grand a month. So basically no rent!!!! Need some ideas, and some tips on getting started. If I go the sushi route, I think I will make the chef part owner.
Pilates, thai massages and 1 on 1 training could do good, as there is not to many places like that around. Making an old rich person feel good about themself and keep them healthy,I think there wallets would open up big time.
Anyone have there own business. Need to make a power move on this deal. Thanks

**bigdog81** · 02-25-2007, 07:45 PM

you can save money cause you dont have to waste energy cooking the food....... heheh
i love sushi bro..ill drive up north to eat there ..

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-25-2007, 07:50 PM

i think they are both good ideas provided they are done correctly... it also depends on the demographics in your area..

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 07:56 PM

Thinking of opening either a small gym/spa or a trendy sushi lounge just outside of NYC. I have no experience in either field, but came across a golden opportunity where rent would be 900 a month, as oppose to other bussiness in the area paying 5-9 grand a month. So basically no rent!!!! Need some ideas, and some tips on getting started. If I go the sushi route, I think I will make the chef part owner.
Pilates, thai massages and 1 on 1 training could do good, as there is not to many places like that around. Making an old rich person feel good about themself and keep them healthy,I think there wallets would open up big time.
Anyone have there own business. Need to make a power move on this deal. Thanks

**Snrf** · 02-25-2007, 07:59 PM

I'd go with a gym or spa, sushi bar wouldn't be as much fun..look at the fun goodcents has in his salon, a spa or gym is going to be full of sweaty young women etc, a sushi bar will be full of pretentious penarses.

on a side note...getnjakked your avy is ridiculous....

so sexy, just SO damn sexy

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 08:08 PM

the gym back in my home town just upgraded and their member ship went through the roof. Their setup separates the free weights from all the machines and tredmills and such. they also have a few tanning booths as well as a hair stylist a dry and wet souna a pilates and arobic area and they have a small menu to get sandwiches and simple stuff just throwing some ideas at you man and they keep everything separate so u aint got to worry about all the rif raf getting in ur way

**stuball** · 02-25-2007, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by kman

Thinking of opening either a small gym/spa or a trendy sushi lounge just outside of NYC. I have no experience in either field, but came across a golden opportunity where rent would be 900 a month, as oppose to other bussiness in the area paying 5-9 grand a month. So basically no rent!!!! Need some ideas, and some tips on getting started. If I go the sushi route, I think I will make the chef part owner.
Pilates, thai massages and 1 on 1 training could do good, as there is not to many places like that around. Making an old rich person feel good about themself and keep them healthy,I think there wallets would open up big time.
Anyone have there own business. Need to make a power move on this deal. Thanks

First how long of a lease ?? If you dont know the food business stay away long hours, and a lot of waste of food, you have a bad week foods in the garbage, i a gym your machines make you your money than expand into a spa but most of all try to get a 15 to 20 year lease, witch is real hard at 9 bills, also remember, the landloard has the write to raise you rent a certain% every year i think 5 %.. Good luck

***Doc.Sust*** · 02-25-2007, 08:12 PM

any business is a pain in the ass, a gym would have lower overhead i would think and less hassle, once it is up and running it is easier to maintain. a resteraunt is a constant pain in the ass. there are alot of things that have to be done, more people to depend on etcetc, a gym would be great , if it is in the right neighborhood, the real cost is the equipment, once that is paid for, besides utilities, rent, and employee salary, the places cost very little to operate IMO

***Doc.Sust*** · 02-25-2007, 08:12 PM

kman, aslo is that avatar a pic of your house?place looks awesome!

***Doc.Sust*** · 02-25-2007, 08:14 PM

i responded to the other post

***Doc.Sust*** · 02-25-2007, 08:17 PM

i merged the threads

**stuball** · 02-25-2007, 08:25 PM

Also what the square footage ??? In NY you cant get a f'n box for 900... LOL

**Snrf** · 02-25-2007, 08:26 PM

Doc you're whoring it up tonight

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

kman, aslo is that avatar a pic of your house?place looks awesome!

Yes it is, Thanks. Pool will be open in 2 weeks!! Your right about the restraunt business, and I have heard all the horror stories, so I am alittle hesitant about it, but think it would be fun and could make lots of contacts for future bussiness's. I think the Gym woud work, but I just dont see it taking off. I'm just trying to be like the producer here and put a great idea together and go in with a couple of partners I have lined up, just brainstorming it before I present the idea. Keep the ideas coming guys!!!

**STYLE74** · 02-25-2007, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

Also what the square footage ??? In NY you cant get a f'n box for 900... LOL

Exactly my question. What is the square footage? It doesn't sound like a big place at all, especially for $900.00 a month. If the place is that small how are you going to put a gym in there? You need ALOT of space for a gym/spa. Gym equipment is rather big and you need alot of good machines to even make a decent gym. I wouldn't join a hole in the wall gym knowing that there are gyms like LA Fitness out there with raquet ball and things like that. Something don't sound right about this whole thing.

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by STYLE74

Exactly my question. What is the square footage? It doesn't sound like a big place at all, especially for $900.00 a month. If the place is that small how are you going to put a gym in there? You need ALOT of space for a gym/spa. Gym equipment is rather big and you need alot of good machines to even make a decent gym. I wouldn't join a hole in the wall gym knowing that there are gyms like LA Fitness out there with raquet ball and things like that. Something don't sound right about this whole thing.

Square footage is around 2200. Its in a 2 story buliding that a relative owns, and he is willing to rent out the bottom half. It would def. not be like a LA fitness, and I would not cater to guys like us who want to lift heavy and look at chicks!! It would be catered to wealthier women mostly who want to do pilates and 1on1 training and maybe a massage or some type of spa treatment. Pilates sessions in the area are goin for 150 for 90 min. With rent this low I need to make something happen, just confused on which route to take!!

**spywizard** · 02-25-2007, 09:35 PM

sell a service, not a product, the product can be supplemental income, but the service is where the $$$ is at..

**STYLE74** · 02-25-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by kman

Square footage is around 2200. Its in a 2 story buliding that a relative owns, and he is willing to rent out the bottom half. It would def. not be like a LA fitness, and I would not cater to guys like us who want to lift heavy and look at chicks!! It would be catered to wealthier women mostly who want to do pilates and 1on1 training and maybe a massage or some type of spa treatment. Pilates sessions in the area are goin for 150 for 90 min. With rent this low I need to make something happen, just confused on which route to take!!

Oh ok I see now. Damn I wish I knew the area because then I could comment more, I really can't give advice about something unless I really research it good and know the area well. I have many good ideas for business but I have to know all the details about the area and what's around and things like that. Good luck with whatever you decide bro. Is there alot of traffic by the place? When I say traffic I mean people wise.

**aadrenaline** · 02-25-2007, 10:20 PM

thats nice man..shit take it up before he changes his mind and rents it for more to someone else!!

with an opportunity like this i would make something different then the usual..i dont know what kind of cash you have to work with?

i love sushi. i love women. lol

but today thats what sells something unique, flashy, attractive, DIFFERENT.

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

sell a service, not a product, the product can be supplemental income, but the service is where the $$$ is at..

I like that,,words of wisdom!!!!

**spywizard** · 02-25-2007, 10:23 PM

heck at $900 make it a flop house (not really) but you get the idea, the area and what is already in the area will determine what you provide, also do something you are passionate about will make this adventure a success..

**kman** · 02-25-2007, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by STYLE74

Oh ok I see now. Damn I wish I knew the area because then I could comment more, I really can't give advice about something unless I really research it good and know the area well. I have many good ideas for business but I have to know all the details about the area and what's around and things like that. Good luck with whatever you decide bro. Is there alot of traffic by the place? When I say traffic I mean people wise.

White Plains NY, 1.5 miles away from trumps building and the ritz carlton, Plenty of parking places and train is directly across from building, it is off the main strip where all the restraunts and clubs are though, which for my sushi lounge idea I kind of like, its makes it more private and secluded. We will see, there are so many factors and steps to take from here. But thanks for all the tips and ideas guys...

**Superhuman** · 02-25-2007, 10:48 PM

I say make a gym kind-of like Fitness Together, where it's all one-on-one or group training and you have very nice equipment. You could have classes, too throughout the day but most of your money would come from clients. Hire like 5-10 personal trainers, get them 3x a week clients, charge the clients like $100/hour and pay the trainers a commission of like $20/session. I have a perfect layout in my head and advertising

**Superhuman** · 02-25-2007, 10:54 PM

Okay... you walk in and on your left is a counter with a cash register and an office, on your right is an area with shelves full of fitness products (resistance bands, workout videos, supplements). You keep walking past that and into large open area with lots of very nice equipment (2 universal systems, a row of bikes, a row of treadmills, power-rack, dumbell rack, and a few all-in-one machines). This area is used for group training and one-on-one... mirrors from floor-to-ceiling, too. You walk past the big room and there's a hallway with 1 door on the left and 2 on the right. On the left is a pilates room with a padded floor and lots of ab equipment, too. The 1st door on the right is a tanning room with 2 beds separated by partitions. The 2nd door on the right is a massage room where you have a masseuse/chiropracter.... hell maybe he can even be an HRT doctor too.... I have so many ideas!

**SpartanStrength** · 02-25-2007, 11:09 PM

Just incase you dont know already this is a planet fitness in that city, and I don't know about any other major gyms, so i think your unique niche style gym maybe be able to have a chance. Also therre are many restaurants in that area so you would really have to be marketing something special.

**collar** · 02-26-2007, 03:01 AM

if you can open sushi place at where your thinking to open it up, i think a gym is not big enough to open there im assuming.

**K.Biz** · 02-26-2007, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Superhuman

Okay... you walk in and on your left is a counter with a cash register and an office, on your right is an area with shelves full of fitness products (resistance bands, workout videos, supplements). You keep walking past that and into large open area with lots of very nice equipment (2 universal systems, a row of bikes, a row of treadmills, power-rack, dumbell rack, and a few all-in-one machines). This area is used for group training and one-on-one... mirrors from floor-to-ceiling, too. You walk past the big room and there's a hallway with 1 door on the left and 2 on the right. On the left is a pilates room with a padded floor and lots of ab equipment, too. The 1st door on the right is a tanning room with 2 beds separated by partitions. The 2nd door on the right is a massage room where you have a masseuse/chiropracter.... hell maybe he can even be an HRT doctor too.... I have so many ideas!

We have a Dream Gym!!

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-26-2007, 09:01 AM

how about hot chicks in skimpy clothes making sushi........ i think that covers all the bases..

**Snrf** · 02-26-2007, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

how about hot chicks in skimpy clothes making sushi........ i think that covers all the bases..

Why skimpy clothes? as long as theyre hot (ie Jamie Eason) make em naked....

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-26-2007, 10:27 AM

I'd problaby sign over my trust fund to see that....

**stuball** · 02-26-2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

I'd problaby sign over my trust fund to see that....

Got your car out ???? This sucks !!!

**MFT81** · 02-26-2007, 12:04 PM

No matter what you choose id look into the E-Myth by Michael Gerber. Great book and a plan that my boss has used in the last 4 buisnesses he has oppened. not one has failed yet.

I read it and it really gives you great insight into how to avoid a lot of mistakes.

BTW I LOVE sushi.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-26-2007, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

Got your car out ???? This sucks !!!

I was plowing snow this mornin since 4 til about 1030....then went to the gym in the lex...roads are just wet now....but its a mess..TIME TO GO BACK TO FLA!!!!!!!

**kman** · 02-26-2007, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by MFT81

No matter what you choose id look into the E-Myth by Michael Gerber. Great book and a plan that my boss has used in the last 4 buisnesses he has oppened. not one has failed yet.

I read it and it really gives you great insight into how to avoid a lot of mistakes.

BTW I LOVE sushi.

Thanks I will look into that. BTW if I do go with a sushi lounge, dime piece women will def. be working there!!!!!

**stuball** · 02-26-2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

I was plowing snow this mornin since 4 til about 1030....then went to the gym in the lex...roads are just wet now....but its a mess..TIME TO GO BACK TO FLA!!!!!!!

Im in the middle of startin something down there, but i cant sell my f'n business up here, its killing me..

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-26-2007, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

Im in the middle of startin something down there, but i cant sell my f'n business up here, its killing me..

PM me the details....

**thegodfather** · 02-27-2007, 02:33 AM

If you're looking to make this so upscale why not open a gentlemens club? You provide a service, probably very little overhead, and if you can get the kind of upscale clientelle your tlaking about no problem

**gixxerboy1** · 02-27-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by thegodfather

If you're looking to make this so upscale why not open a gentlemens club? You provide a service, probably very little overhead, and if you can get the kind of upscale clientelle your tlaking about no problem

It would be way to small of a place. Also it is hard to get permits and licences to open that type of business.

Definitely go with a lounge type of place over a gym.