Recall Letter from the Marine Corps

[southmadejd]

Hey Guys I was hoping one of you might be able to help me. Last week I received a recall letter from the Marine Corps with the subject in it "Notification of Consideration for Recall to Active Duty". They are asking me to report to MobCom in Kansas City on Oct. 1st for a screening on Oct. 2nd. Has anybody else been recalled by the Marine Corps? I was just wondering if anybody could give me a little guidance of what I may have in store for me. And also if anybody could give me a little bit of info on if there are any pay increases for involuntarily activated marines I would appreciate it. Thanks for your help.

[Red Ketchup]

Well, I can't help you but I am curious as to what "recall to active duty" means?

Did you do your service, fill your engagement, get discharged and they decided they want you back?

Red

[Dizz28]

Your total commitment to the service is 8 years when you sign the contract. You can do 4 years active service and then "get out" but you are still in the inactive reserves for another 4years to total of 8 years.They can call you back into the service at anytime during those 4 years inactive reserves and you have to report back otherwise you can face a court marshal. Also, people say "well I'll just do drugs, fail the urinalysis and they can't take me back" if you do that they can still NJP or Court Marshal you and turn your "honorable" discharge into an "Other than Honoranble" or even a "Bad conduct discharge"

They have been doing that a lot since the start of the war. I saw marines that got out in 2002 on Camp Lejeune standing gaurd duty in 2004. Sucks to be them. Hope this answers your question, Red

None of them got any special pays, just thier regular base pay and BAH if they had a spouse back home. They came back in as the last rank they were when discharged. The Marine Corps used them for about a year on the recall then let them go again back on inactive reserves

[Red Ketchup]

Wow, thanks that answers my question.

I thought once you did your 4 years, your engagement was completed and that was that. So I guess you can get royally screwed over if you do your service, get out after 4 years settle down, start a family and find a good job? They can just pull the rug from under you?

Red

[southmadejd]

Yeah Ketchup, like Dizz said you have 8 years of obligation when you sign up even though you only serve 4 active and 4 inactive. It just sucks because it seems like I will just be killing time again for one more year. I mean don't get me wrong...I understand that I have an obligation but I just don't understand the recall right now because didn't Bush just go on air yesterday and talk about how he wanted to initiate a troop withdrawal starting next year. With my luck I will get over there and be one of the last Motherf-ckers to leave and they just hand me a trash bag and tell me to start police calling....lol. At least I will be a Sgt so I can just supervise the police calling. Damn I just have to get into a positive state of mind with this because I really felt like I would never be back in the sand box but if I am so be it. Does anybody have any further info about the screening process they will be giving me in Kansas City??? Is it just like MEPS?

[JDawg1536]

I cant really help you, but I saw a thread from a guy a week or so ago who also got the letter. I'll try and find it for you.

[Lexed]

dam 8 year contract that sucks

[southmadejd]

Thanks man. Sorry bout that, I could have searched myself....and I am always preaching to other guys to utilize the search toolbar. I will try to scan it and post it with my info blacked out to see if that helps anybody

[southmadejd]

dam 8 year contract that sucks

That is the minimum you can do in the Marine Corps Lex. is it different with other services?

[JDawg1536]

Thanks man. Sorry bout that, I could have searched myself....and I am always preaching to other guys to utilize the search toolbar. I will try to scan it and post it with my info blacked out to see if that helps anybody

Why would you think there would be another thread on this topic? Fvck the search tool, Im lazy!

And 8 years is the requirement for all services. Might be different with those 2 year contracts tho....

[southmadejd]

Yeah I did think this was kind of an off the wall letter. One of my friends got this same letter but he got out a year before me and he got the letter about 1 year ago and he has been completely dodging calling them back. When I got the letter I immediately called them because the last thing I want is to be charged UA and have a hard time getting a job after that. And plus he wants to be a cop. I am not sure if they can legally charge you UA without ever getting you to sign for the letter because you can probably just say you never got it....but still, just the thought would make me want to get in touch with them. I am just the type of person who has to know what is going on rather then just try and forget about it.

[Dizz28]

I did almost 8 years active so when I got out the reserves block on the DD214 said "N/A"

If you found a good job and settled down after you get out then if you get recalled, by law, they can't fire you for leaving or while you are gone just because the military recalled you. I knew one guy that his job kept paying him and giving him raises the year that he was gone. He was a Navy RP2, for all you marines it's the enlisted guy that's always with the chaplin..

It's a pain in the ass if you are in the middle or end of a semester though...can't really do anything about that

[southmadejd]

Yeah that is exactly what the letter says....they give you 5 months to get everything in order from when you get orders. So that means I would have to report in around February. SO I can't take a semester in the Spring which means I will get no GI Bill money so that really sucks.

By the way...I always wondered what the RP stood for...is it Religious Programmer or something?? And I wont get paid by my work...I am sure of that.

[Dizz28]

Yeah that is exactly what the letter says....they give you 5 months to get everything in order from when you get orders. So that means I would have to report in around February. SO I can't take a semester in the Spring which means I will get no GI Bill money so that really sucks.

By the way...I always wondered what the RP stood for...is it Religious Programmer or something?? And I wont get paid by my work...I am sure of that.

Religious Program specialist

Yup, can't sign up for spring classes

[king6]

That's why I did 5.5 in the Marines, I have less than a year left on active duty, and so far so good.

[boarder034]

ohhh rah, dont worry bout nothin and if you do get shipped, ill catch you there, i leave sunday :-)

[ginkobulloba]

Here is what I would do: Ignore the letter.

Yes, I know we all signed up for "8 years." Me too, I've got a few couple years left on the original 8, but dude I am more of a civilian than I ever was before. It would not be good for anyone to have me back in a uniform.

So, like you I am facing this possibility as well. I get emails and letter sent to my house in the states asking me to update my information and blah, blah, blah. Fvck that, I ignore that crap.

I have looked into this, since Sept. 11th when they started recalling soldiers on the IRR, not a single one who didn't report has been prosecuted, considered AWOL, or anything. Not one.

So, let's think about this for a moment. You either A: report, get a haircut, uproot your life, start wearing combat boots again and get shipped off to the current quagmire in the desert. Or you, B: Ignore the letter, continue on with your life and absolutely nothing changes.

Tough decision there bro.

[brewerpi]

Here is what I would do: Ignore the letter.

Yes, I know we all signed up for "8 years." Me too, I've got a few couple years left on the original 8, but dude I am more of a civilian than I ever was before. It would not be good for anyone to have me back in a uniform.

So, like you I am facing this possibility as well. I get emails and letter sent to my house in the states asking me to update my information and blah, blah, blah. Fvck that, I ignore that crap.

I have looked into this, since Sept. 11th when they started recalling soldiers on the IRR, not a single one who didn't report has been prosecuted, considered AWOL, or anything. Not one.

So, let's think about this for a moment. You either A: report, get a haircut, uproot your life, start wearing combat boots again and get shipped off to the current quagmire in the desert. Or you, B: Ignore the letter, continue on with your life and absolutely nothing changes.

Tough decision there bro.

so much for "Semper Fi"

[ginkobulloba]

I was never a Marine, but you're on point.

[king6]

I have looked into this, since Sept. 11th when they started recalling soldiers on the IRR, not a single one who didn't report has been prosecuted, considered AWOL, or anything. Not one.

You might want to look harder.

[IronReload04]

Your total commitment to the service is 8 years when you sign the contract. You can do 4 years active service and then "get out" but you are still in the inactive reserves for another 4years to total of 8 years.They can call you back into the service at anytime during those 4 years inactive reserves and you have to report back otherwise you can face a court marshal. Also, people say "well I'll just do drugs, fail the urinalysis and they can't take me back" if you do that they can still NJP or Court Marshal you and turn your "honorable" discharge into an "Other than Honoranble" or even a "Bad conduct discharge"

They have been doing that a lot since the start of the war. I saw marines that got out in 2002 on Camp Lejeune standing gaurd duty in 2004. Sucks to be them. Hope this answers your question, Red

None of them got any special pays, just thier regular base pay and BAH if they had a spouse back home. They came back in as the last rank they were when discharged. The Marine Corps used them for about a year on the recall then let them go again back on inactive reserves

sorry to sound like a newb, but what is "NJP"?

[Dizz28]

sorry to sound like a newb, but what is "NJP"?

Non-Judicial Punishment, meaning you don't go to formal court marshal where there is a prosecutor, defense attorney and judge. It's just you standing in front of your company or batallion commander and they punish you as they seem fit. You basically have no defense so if you did something small like go UA or smoke (something) then you should choose NJP for the punishments your commander can inflict are much less severe than going to court marshal.

For instance,,,

Drug pop

Court marshal - you can face years in prison, dishonorable discharge and busted down to lowest possible rank with all pays taken away

NJP - 45 days "restriction" , Other than Honorable discharge, go down one rank with half moth's pay x2months taken from you

[IronReload04]

cool, thanks for clearing that up

[boarder034]

I was never a Marine, but you're on point.

quaqimire? are you serious dude? And if you actually think they wont come after people then your a lil...mmm retarted, is probably the best word, i dont know where you got your research but its all

You joined the marines and served your time, there was something you learned when you crossed that podium and became a marine, that this is who you are now, you serve your country when your country needs you, it may not be the most convenient, and it may not allways be on "your schedule" but when has anything in the military been convenient. This is what you are, it is our duty as soldiers to represent our selves in the highest manner possible, your part of the finest branch of the military in the country, quite possibly in the world...i think somewhere along the line you forgot what it means to be a marine...

[Lexed]

All you marine ppl what PFT class where u in?

[Dizz28]

the thing about just not showing up after you get a recall leter is that they won't actively try to find you and prosecute you. After a while they label you as a deserter and put out a warrant for your arrest but like I said, they don't actively search for you. You will get pulled over for some stupid traffic offense and they will run your license like normal but when the cop comes back he will ask you to get out of the car and then cuff you. You'll ask "what the hell did I do, Officer?" and he will say "You are listed as a deserter, we will transport you to the nearest military base and turn you over to the MP's for them to presecute"

I've heard of them prosecuting people that went deserter from Vietnam

[paulzane]

You can run but you can't hide

[boarder034]

thats somethign you would be proud of, hey ma im not gonna be able to make it to christmas dinner, im in the brig for the next 6 months because im a deserter

[Lexed]

you could do R.O.T.C= Run Of To Canada

[ginkobulloba]

quaqimire? are you serious dude? And if you actually think they wont come after people then your a lil...mmm retarted, is probably the best word, i dont know where you got your research but its all

You joined the marines and served your time, there was something you learned when you crossed that podium and became a marine, that this is who you are now, you serve your country when your country needs you, it may not be the most convenient, and it may not allways be on "your schedule" but when has anything in the military been convenient. This is what you are, it is our duty as soldiers to represent our selves in the highest manner possible, your part of the finest branch of the military in the country, quite possibly in the world...i think somewhere along the line you forgot what it means to be a marine...

When did I say I was a Marine? Definitely not a sheep, though.

[ginkobulloba]

quaqimire? are you serious dude? And if you actually think they wont come after people then your a lil...mmm retarted, is probably the best word, i dont know where you got your research but its all

You joined the marines and served your time, there was something you learned when you crossed that podium and became a marine, that this is who you are now, you serve your country when your country needs you, it may not be the most convenient, and it may not allways be on "your schedule" but when has anything in the military been convenient. This is what you are, it is our duty as soldiers to represent our selves in the highest manner possible, your part of the finest branch of the military in the country, quite possibly in the world...i think somewhere along the line you forgot what it means to be a marine...

Dude, whatever you think raising your hand for your country means to you, I think it's superb, really. Your conviction and all that, it definitely show some character. If you want to call me retarded and think I'm less of a man than you, dude, that's up to you too. Since we don't even know each other and in all likelihood, never will, it's perfectly ok with me if you or anyone else thinks I am a retard or whatever else. I've been to Iraq and several other hostile places during my time in uniform and I'm permanently disabled due to some of the shit I did during my time in green. It's gonna take a lot more than a letter to get me back and that's the reality of my situation.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...l_irr_members/

[IronReload04]

the thing about just not showing up after you get a recall leter is that they won't actively try to find you and prosecute you. After a while they label you as a deserter and put out a warrant for your arrest but like I said, they don't actively search for you. You will get pulled over for some stupid traffic offense and they will run your license like normal but when the cop comes back he will ask you to get out of the car and then cuff you. You'll ask "what the hell did I do, Officer?" and he will say "You are listed as a deserter, we will transport you to the nearest military base and turn you over to the MP's for them to presecute"

I've heard of them prosecuting people that went deserter from Vietnam

very interesting about vietnam.........what kind of punishment is somone looking at who say, was a deserter during the draft, and gets caught like say after 1980, 1990>

[Dizz28]

very interesting about vietnam.........what kind of punishment is somone looking at who say, was a deserter during the draft, and gets caught like say after 1980, 1990>

NO idea, I think it was 2 years ago in florida that they caught a guy that was a deserter since Vietnam. I don't know what ever happened to him.

[IronReload04]

thats crazy......my uncle got drafted, but the war ended before he had to even leave

[Lexed]

where are my First Class PFT Marines?

[wascaptain5214]

2nd class here....could max the sit ups.. 15 was my max on pull ups....i forget my times on the 3 mile run. never made 1st class or 3rd class....

[JDawg1536]

You gotta get 100s accross the board or what?

[Tock]

Hey Guys I was hoping one of you might be able to help me. Last week I received a recall letter from the Marine Corps with the subject in it "Notification of Consideration for Recall to Active Duty". They are asking me to report to MobCom in Kansas City on Oct. 1st for a screening on Oct. 2nd.

You can always get out courtesy of "DADT" (Don't Ask Don't Tell). I suppose things are at the point where you could always claim to be bisexual, but that you're currently involved with your girlfriend.

Get some friends to vouch for your depravity, make it public (like on a website), and you're home free, no muss no fuss.

[southmadejd]

where are my First Class PFT Marines?

Damn Lexed I think most Marines are 1st class. It is all about the pullups anyways and the 100 situps should be a given with everybody. If you max out in both of those(20 pullups and 100 crunches) then the run doesn't mean sh-t.

[southmadejd]

Well anyways guys just to give you a little bit of an update.....I did reply to the letter because honestly I am not the type of person who could go on living my life and always have that on the back of my mind the I never replied and I could be in deserter status or something like that.

So anyways I called MOBCOM in Kansas City and now I have to report in Oct 1st-3rd for a screening. I guess I will no more after that. Hopefully I don't get orders but if I do I will just have to have a completely positive attitude about it or else that next 12-18 months i going to completely suck.