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    yeah so any opinions now on sources people may use on other websites?

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    Guys, these are not the only indictments either.

    Many other reputable labs have been popped as well.

    It was a snowball effect, starting with one guy and the DEA kept getting more and more information and setting up cases against any and everybody.

    Many guys that were thought to of scammed, were actually busted.

    There are 20+ labs (that I know of) in our community that have been shut down, and the list keeps growing.

    Stay safe.

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    unbelievable

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    I bet the owners of the old **** are thanking god they stoped the sourceing there a few years back.

    A VERY well respected member of two of the bigger open source boards was busted as well. It is a crap shoot now. I wouldn't do business with anyone online for a loooooong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini
    This is why I always laugh at people on here when nearly everyone here says "domestic only!", "domestic only!", "domestic sources are the best", etc..

    How great is your domestic source now? THey probably have your email address, name, etc. This is why I will never ever go with domestic. International all the way.

    I've said it before and i'll say it again: the worst that could happen if you go international is your package gets siezed at customs and you get a letter. If a domestic source goes down, you either lose your money in a sting operation, they get your name and all the info about you, and you get busted. LE can't bust international sources. Period.
    This was an international effort. 7 or 8 different countries.

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    this is getting ridiculous.

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    My prediction will be a multi-national crack down on domestic poker games. A full crackdown on illegal gambling should be next. The effects of gambling, debt, addiction, and domestic problems have been proven to be far worse with this plague upon Americans than the use of steroids .

    Guard your home games fellows operation "FOLD'EM" is coming to a city near you!


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    yes but what is more ridiculous is all the websites that had/have open sourcing, they brought on themselves, advertising everywhere, really stupid and greedy,oh and let us not forget the people going on every forum and bragging how they got a bag of powder in and how many days it was in customs and which area

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYP400
    yes but what is more ridiculous is all the websites that had/have open sourcing, they brought on themselves, advertising everywhere, really stupid and greedy,oh and let us not forget the people going on every forum and bragging how they got a bag of powder in and how many days it was in customs and which area
    greed will consume us all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3**
    Supply and demand will rule in the end. There will always be a market for juice. It's just going to be real slow for a while.
    human grade might make a comeback

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    I have a list of 22 lab names so far...but im not posting it until they're 100% confirmed.

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    yeah its all bull sh!t f*** the dea,FBI and cops.....there worried about steroids ???????? why dont they try to take meth off the f*****streets c*** su****s
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYP400
    yes but what is more ridiculous is all the websites that had/have open sourcing, they brought on themselves, advertising everywhere, really stupid and greedy,oh and let us not forget the people going on every forum and bragging how they got a bag of powder in and how many days it was in customs and which area
    Your exactly right man...i mean when your open posting your business like that, you would have to expect this to come w/ time..i mean, yeah i'm sure for awhile, they got a lot more business by being easy to find, but that means if they're that easy to find for the gym rats, that the LE will find them even easier...just stupidity to an extent...and b/c of their stupidity, i'm sure it will rain down on many others that were being smart about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve
    i have been asking this question around other threads too...is lion still safe to order from??
    Got my order today. It took less than 5 days I might add. No worries mate.

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    hopefully no more of the research chem companies get busted

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    Many of the UGls that got busted were sending unencrypted emails to customers, not so smart. Would think they all require the use of encrypted email by the customers.

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    Yeah, i mean i'm not in the selling business, but i think i could go in w/ common sense, and do a better/smarter job than some of these guys have

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYP400
    yes but what is more ridiculous is all the websites that had/have open sourcing, they brought on themselves, advertising everywhere, really stupid and greedy,oh and let us not forget the people going on every forum and bragging how they got a bag of powder in and how many days it was in customs and which area
    Agree. We all need to keep it on the down low about what we get and from where. You got to believe law enforcement reads these boards.

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    somebody wanna tell me which labs got busted?

    which ones are confirmed and suspected busted? I just want to know if I have emailed any of these guys. I have been talking to several sources and placed an order but didn't pay yet and I think I'll hold off until I know further what teh deal is.. I have plenty for my current cycle and can probably score locally though at higher prices if I have to for next cycle.. I just want to know what's going on before I just email and ASK to get busted

    BTW, if we can't openly talk about this a PM would be nice letting me know which labs got busted.. I already know the G* labs from the other post.. though I didn't know that guy.

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    man why cant they focus on the REAL PROBLEMS like the BAD DRUGS that actually KILL PEOPLE instead of focusing on the good drugs that increase libido, sexapplean and reduce fertility! thats
    as over populated as we are u think they would be asking people to use deca and tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    man why cant they focus on the REAL PROBLEMS like the BAD DRUGS that actually KILL PEOPLE instead of focusing on the good drugs that increase libido, sexapplean and reduce fertility! thats
    as over populated as we are u think they would be asking people to use deca and tren
    agreed man focus on the bad drugs that ruin peoples lives i dont understand y there making this such a big deal kids in highschool now are doing so much worse things than just getting stoned nowadays govt.=half a brain
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    edit post slick.. no rec drug talk.. other than "BAD drugs"

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    edited sorry :P

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    no lab names will be names here

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybambam
    I really wish that some major universty would run a study showing how the use of AAS CAN actually help our bodies and our health.
    This is done. However, not in favor of the user. Specifically because most grants won't approve for human use... Even if its there own will. And even the studies done with human subjects aren't completely parsimonious, because of the peer review process and the tendency to lean toward negative side effects... Politics to get more grant money for the future...

    It sucks that this is the case. But fckin politics are in the middle of everything, even fckin science. I really didn't think this was the case untill i talked to all the Endo research at my university. fckikn i lost all hope.

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    Is it just me or does anyone else get a kick out of sticking it too the us government? I must commit half a dozen crimes a day and yet there isnt one victim in anything that I do. If there ever were a victim it would be me. I think the only way that our governemnt will ever realize that capitalism does not equal control will be a revolution or total annihilation. Lol, sorry a little off base but **** the usa govt. However I love the country.

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    Massive steroid busts!

    Yahoo Sports is reporting that a huge undercover investigation took place this weekend. “Operation Raw Deal” by the DEA seized "massive amounts of anabolic steroids from an illegal, underground network and the ability to identify hundreds of thousands of people who received steroids and other substances used by some athletes as performance-enhancing drugs.”

    This is the largest steroid bust in the history of the United States with 124 arrests and seizures at 56 labs across the country. The Drug Enforcement Agency is currently compiling a list of known steroid recipients from the network; however the list has not yet been made available to the public. Therefore, it is unknown at this time, if or how many professional athletes or wrestlers are on the list.

    Canada, Belgium, Australia, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Mexico and Thailand are the other countries involved in the coordinated international crackdown.

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    funny thing is

    a friend of mine in the army said...at least in his division that the US government just fed him and his boys steroids to get absolutely huge and then they would make them run ALL the time to keep the weight down. he said he was wei***ng something like 170 and benching near 300-315. found that interesting, i guess whatever benefits them. this was also like 5-7 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneymike22
    r they going after individuals that bought stuff online or just the suppliers
    they will if the labs stored data...I'd clean up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bifftannen
    a friend of mine in the army said...at least in his division that the US government just fed him and his boys steroids to get absolutely huge and then they would make them run ALL the time to keep the weight down. he said he was wei***ng something like 170 and benching near 300-315. found that interesting, i guess whatever benefits them. this was also like 5-7 years ago.
    ummm! Sorry dude your bro is a bit confused.





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    Heres a tid bit I found.


    Steroids UG labs busted
    Filed under: Steroids and Anabolic Steroids — webmaster @ 8:56 am

    I guess kind of a sad day when the DEA/FDA concentrates on steroid dealers rather then the 200,000 tonnes of coke that come into USA /year , dont forget the Meth problem!!!

    the following labs/players have been busted:

    Genera Pharms (NOT GENERIC)
    Huma Labs
    API
    The Professor (this could be API)
    Vizion Pharms/Phoenix
    Samar
    SIUG
    Osoca
    Leo
    Samar Labs
    Phoenix Pharm, Aka Vision
    Powerline
    Pharm RXL
    Stallion
    Dpharm
    AP
    *********************THE NEWS

    An international investigation code-named Operation Raw Deal that culminated in the last four days could produce the next steroids scandal in sports – and perhaps the biggest yet.

    The undercover operation led by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration resulted in the seizure of massive amounts of anabolic steroids from an illegal, underground network and the ability to identify hundreds of thousands of people who received steroids and other substances used by some athletes as performance-enhancing drugs, a DEA spokesman told Yahoo! Sports on Sunday.

    Most of the raids took place in the United States, and the DEA called the steroids crackdown the largest in U.S. history. DEA offices in New York and San Diego provided lead guidance during an investigation that resulted in 124 arrests and seizures at 56 labs across the country. Investigators also seized 71 weapons, 27 pill presses, 25 vehicles and three boats, but the coveted item was illegal drugs, and the DEA said it intercepted a staggering quantity.

    Also, federal officials are creating a database of names of the people who received steroids, human growth hormone (HGH) and other drugs banned by most sports leagues and athletic associations, DEA spokesman Rusty Payne said.

    OPERATION RAW DEAL

    The Drug Enforcement Administration led a massive, undercover operation that targeted the illegal importation and distribution of steroids, human growth hormone and other medications. A primary source of the illicit drugs was coming from Chinese manufacturers.

    Countries involved in the operation:

    United States
    (26 states)
    China
    Mexico
    Canada
    Belgium

    Australia
    Germany
    Denmark
    Sweden
    Thailand

    “I have no information about any athletes yet,” Payne said when asked about the names in the database and others implicated in the case. But he acknowledged the possibility of athletes being linked to the investigation that focused largely on steroids, HGH and other drugs being manufactured by Chinese companies and flooding the U.S. market.

    “Of course, performance-enhancing drugs are an issue right now,” Payne told Yahoo! Sports during a telephone interview. “They’re in the news, and they’re in the news because there have been athletes that have been tied to them. We know that’s what this story is.”

    Steroids, HGH and other drugs seized in the raids promote muscle growth and speed recovery from injury, and athletes have used them despite the risk of suspensions and permanent bans from sport.

    Whether Major League Baseball, the NFL and other sports bodies can gain access to the database and search for athletes who received substances banned by the respective sports organizations will be up to top officials at the Justice Department and DEA, according to Payne.

    “Anything is possible,” he said.

    Typically, DEA investigations focus on drug suppliers and dealers. But now that the DEA has the ability to identify the largest numbers of people who received illegal shipments of drugs during Operation Raw Deal, Payne said, “If you are one of those people, you could get a knock at your door.”

    U.S. officials enlisted the help of China and eight other countries in an investigation that targeted more than 35 Chinese companies that produce raw materials used to make steroids and HGH, and in some cases finished product, sold illegally on the global underground network, Payne said.

    China has emerged as the leading supplier of illicit steroids and HGH since the DEA began targeting Mexico suppliers two years ago. U.S. authorities said the operation that shut down steroids manufacturers in Mexico temporarily cut into the supply in the United States, but Chinese suppliers stepped in.

    Last week, Yahoo! Sports obtained documents that showed HGH imported from China was seized in the Signature Pharmacy scandal. High-profile athletes linked to that investigation, launched by the district attorney in Albany County, N.Y., include baseball players Rick Ankiel, Gary Matthews Jr., Troy Glaus and Jay Gibbons; NFL safety Rodney Harrison; boxer Evander Holyfield; and a dozen pro wrestlers.

    A steroid lab seized on Long Island, N.Y., as part of Operation Raw Deal.

    (Photo courtesy DEA)

    The role of Chinese companies in supplying steroids to the underground market figures to be sensitive for China considering the country will play host to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing in August. But the investigation could prove even more damaging to the world of sports.

    Major League Baseball has scrambled to control recent news leaks of players connected to the Signature scandal. Last week, an arbitration panel upheld the results that showed American cyclist Floyd Landis used synthetic testosterone during his riveting comeback victory in the 2006 Tour de France. And for months, during his successful quest to overtake Hank Aaron as baseball’s all-time home run king, Barry Bonds reignited controversy from a steroids scandal that stemmed from a 2003 raid of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (BALCO) that ensnared Bonds and several other well-known athletes.

    On Monday, the sports world will learn of the latest potential bombshell. Officials are scheduled to announce details of Operation Raw Deal during news conferences in New York and San Diego.

    Investigators hauled in countless bags and boxes loaded with steroids that have a street value potentially exceeding $50 million, Payne said. The stockpile included 11.4 million doses of steroids, which based on the 0.5 milliliter per dose used by the DEA for calculations, amounts to about 570,000 vials that each hold 10 milliliters.

    PRIMARY DRUGS SEIZED

    • Anabolic steroids
    • Human growth hormone
    Human chorionic gonadotropin : used to stimulate natural production of testosterone
    Insulin growth factor 1: A protein that enhances muscle growth

    Payne said he had no figures for the amount of HGH and other drugs seized in an operation that involved the Food and Drug Administration, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, the FBI, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. National Drug Intelligence Center.

    “These buyers are solely motivated by a desire to gain an unfair competitive advantage by using illegal performance-enhancing substances,” said Terry Vermillion, Director of the FDA Office of Criminal Investigations, in a statement provided to Yahoo! Sports.

    But Payne said rather than catching athletes who use banned drugs, the objective was to stanch the flow of illegal steroids and other drugs into the U.S. Most of the drugs seized in the investigation were cooked up “in filthy conditions with no regard to safety,” according to the DEA.

    The Internet has emerged as a popular source for those seeking performance-enhancing drugs without the required prescription, prompting Operation Raw Deal to employ a four-pronged strategy. The investigation targeted U.S.-based websites that distribute materials such as conversion kits necessary to turn raw steroid powders into finished product; Internet body building discussion boards that teach individuals how to use, locate, and discreetly purchase steroids; raw material manufacturers and suppliers in China and other countries; and underground steroids labs in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

    DEA agents and local police make an arrest in Nassau County in Operation Raw Deal.

    (Photo courtesy DEA)

    Other countries involved in the coordinated international crackdown included Belgium, Australia, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Thailand.

    “Operation Raw Deal uncovered a clandestine web of international drug dealers who lurk on the Internet for young adults craving the artificial advantage of anabolic steroids,” Karen P. Tandy, the DEA administrator, said in a statement.

    In addition to steroids and HGH, the operation targeted Insulin Growth Factor and underground trafficking of ancillary and counterfeit medications. Other drugs seized included cocaine, marijuana, Ecstasy, painkillers, anti-anxiety medications and Viagra.

    The DEA lauded Chinese officials for their participation in the effort, but whether China disciplines the manufacturers or discloses information remains to be seen. U.S. officials provided Chinese authorities with information packets about more than 35 Chinese companies that allegedly supplied raw materials for steroids, HGH and other performance-enhancing drugs and are involved in the illicit underground trade around the world. But U.S. officials will withhold the names of those companies in deference to China.

    DEA officials said they launched the operation in large part because of health risks in taking drugs that often are mislabeled. The potential side effects include strokes, liver damage and heart disease, experts say.

    Though the impact of Operation Raw Deal on sports remains uncertain, the DEA’s work is not done when it comes to a crackdown on the illegal trafficking of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs, Payne said.

    “This is not a case with a beginning and an end,” he said. “I like to look at it more as an initiative.

    “This is a huge initiative.”

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    a few more bros i will try my best to keep it flowing

    ugio
    Genescience
    Pro Pharm
    Bodyz
    SIUG
    Titan supply
    anabolic -superstore
    Stallion Labs
    spyder
    AML
    Rugio
    US Pharma
    Tweak
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    gym ace
    GALABS
    SAAMR
    BTLabs
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    GasMAN
    GYMVET

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    Sorry I hope I dont get the boot iam trying to help is all.. =(

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    k*t*i* L*n*G) is busted

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    rugio
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    Bodyz
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    Titan supply
    anabolic -superstore
    Southern Labs
    spyder
    AML
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    US Pharma
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    gym ace aka Supersteroid Board
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    Probably ,if one has not puchased powders you are safe; but when the heat is on people will start snitching.


    They mention all of our boards in the news and papers

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    Golden Triangle and Superior Labs were both busted. Add it to the list

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    Where are you getting this information? Some of it is flat out wrong.

    Don't believe everything you see posted, or what some random ass person tells you.

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    [QUOTE]The investigation also focused on message boards where advice is traded about obtaining raw materials, as well as on the Web sites that help the labs sell finished products to the public. Hundreds of thousands of e-mails were intercepted, according to Dan Simmons, a San Diego-based special agent for the DEA. Simmons said that no professional athletes have been implicated so far but that the e-mails are being compiled into a massive database of names and are being analyzed./QUOTE]

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    Iam just trying to help not start a war do a little research and time will tell or
    maybe you can shed a little bit of light my way if you have any info that can help pm me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini
    This is why I always laugh at people on here when nearly everyone here says "domestic only!", "domestic only!", "domestic sources are the best", etc..

    How great is your domestic source now? THey probably have your email address, name, etc. This is why I will never ever go with domestic. International all the way.

    I've said it before and i'll say it again: the worst that could happen if you go international is your package gets siezed at customs and you get a letter. If a domestic source goes down, you either lose your money in a sting operation, they get your name and all the info about you, and you get busted. LE can't bust international sources. Period.
    They got the names from the chinese exporters.

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