ronnie against arnold

**nowdenlid** · 10-04-2007, 06:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GYJt...elated&search=

arnold is the man .

**domeyeahaigh** · 10-04-2007, 07:10 PM

no doubt ronnie is bigger overall, even looks more defined...however

arnold has the look that nobody has ever recaptured, IMO he defined bodybuilding at its greatest point, how he represented the sport, how he represented himself, how much he has done in his life, and most importantly, the progression of bodybuilding which he made possible.

when comparing ronnie and arnold there is no comparison. arnold is undoubtedly the alpha and ***** of the sport.

**domeyeahaigh** · 10-04-2007, 07:11 PM

o m e g a

**hocoathlete** · 10-04-2007, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by christopherallen

no doubt ronnie is bigger overall, even looks more defined...however

arnold has the look that nobody has ever recaptured, IMO he defined bodybuilding at its greatest point, how he represented the sport, how he represented himself, how much he has done in his life, and most importantly, the progression of bodybuilding which he made possible.

when comparing ronnie and arnold there is no comparison. arnold is undoubtedly the alpha and ***** of the sport.

i dunno, i used to think Arnold had liek a one of a kind physique,

then i saw a bunch of the competitors from his day, and they all have the same physique pretty much.

-strong stomach vaccum
-insane thick arms
-thick chest
-not huge legs, but well defined.
-lats were big

seriously, they all ahd the same kinda physique.

**Atomini** · 10-04-2007, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by hocoathlete

i dunno, i used to think Arnold had liek a one of a kind physique,

then i saw a bunch of the competitors from his day, and they all have the same physique pretty much.

-strong stomach vaccum
-insane thick arms
-thick chest
-not huge legs, but well defined.
-lats were big

seriously, they all ahd the same kinda physique.

No way. Compare Mike Mentzer's physique to Arnold's and they look worlds apart. If you switched heads, you'd instantly be able to tell who is who. Try comparing Arnold with Boyer Coe. You can't. Their physiques are worlds apart. Or Mike Mentzer and Frank Zane? Arnold and Chris Dickerson? Frank Zane and Jusup Wilkosz?? The physiques from back then were ALL very unique. A couple of them may have looked very similar (Arnold and Serge Nubret perhaps), but pretty much all of the physiques back then were unique.

It's the guys TODAY that look the same. All blocky and bloated, deformed looking. If you switched heads on the competitors today, you wouldn't be able to tell who is who on 9/10 of them!

**Fat Guy** · 10-04-2007, 07:51 PM

Ronnies a s s looks tighter...

**DSM4Life** · 10-04-2007, 08:27 PM

When will people understand bigger is not always better.

**Coop77** · 10-04-2007, 09:53 PM

That footage of arnie looks like the 1980 Olympia. far from his peak.

***G-1000*** · 10-04-2007, 10:01 PM

Wow that just showed how much beter the drugs now a days are.

I like Arnolds look better

**novastepp** · 10-04-2007, 10:17 PM

arnold looks more aesthetically pleasing in every way. and that is what the sport is all about.

**LawMan018** · 10-05-2007, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Coop77

That footage of arnie looks like the 1980 Olympia. far from his peak.

it's footage from Pumping Iron... About 1 to 2 years after his peak...

**Ajc330** · 10-05-2007, 01:08 AM

yeah it's pumpin iron 1975

**hocoathlete** · 10-05-2007, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Atomini

No way. Compare Mike Mentzer's physique to Arnold's and they look worlds apart. If you switched heads, you'd instantly be able to tell who is who. Try comparing Arnold with Boyer Coe. You can't. Their physiques are worlds apart. Or Mike Mentzer and Frank Zane? Arnold and Chris Dickerson? Frank Zane and Jusup Wilkosz?? The physiques from back then were ALL very unique. A couple of them may have looked very similar (Arnold and Serge Nubret perhaps), but pretty much all of the physiques back then were unique.

It's the guys TODAY that look the same. All blocky and bloated, deformed looking. If you switched heads on the competitors today, you wouldn't be able to tell who is who on 9/10 of them!

kinda true, but i guess they all looekd the same back i nthe day because of their stomach vaccuums.

i wonder what someone would looks like with chest shoulder and arms like ronnies, stomach vacuum like arnolds, and legs like ronnies.

that would be insane.

**Atomini** · 10-05-2007, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by hocoathlete

kinda true, but i guess they all looekd the same back i nthe day because of their stomach vaccuums.

i wonder what someone would looks like with chest shoulder and arms like ronnies, stomach vacuum like arnolds, and legs like ronnies.

that would be insane.

What?? LOL.

These two do NOT look the same no matter how much they pull off a stomach vaccuum:

**Ajc330** · 10-05-2007, 10:11 AM

what drugs are the pros using today that give them that gut?

**Atomini** · 10-05-2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ajc330

what drugs are the pros using today that give them that gut?

IGF-1, GH....

**LawMan018** · 10-05-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ajc330

what drugs are the pros using today that give them that gut?

A lot of beer

**wascaptain5214** · 10-05-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

What?? LOL.

These two do NOT look the same no matter how much they pull off a stomach vaccuum:

just seen and talked with boyer last week. he is having health problems.

**Atomini** · 10-05-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by wascaptain5214

just seen and talked with boyer last week. he is having health problems.

Aw damn that isn't good. What's wrong with him?

**Psychotron** · 10-05-2007, 09:42 PM

Arnold will always be better in my mind. But, Coleman towards the end of the video, when he was younger, he actually looked good, not now, he's all bloated.

**3bd** · 10-05-2007, 09:44 PM

arnie's only 2 hours away from me in Kalifornia

**torontodude** · 10-06-2007, 07:55 AM

i think arnold looks better by far

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 10-06-2007, 08:17 AM

yeah arnie is better, but for just sheer size and a beast of a look, colman is a legend!!

**DSM4Life** · 10-06-2007, 02:49 PM

**peteroy01** · 10-06-2007, 04:16 PM

soulja boy! now i dont want to go to work and see a bunch of drunk azz kids trying to do this dance.

**39+1** · 10-06-2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by nowdenlid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GYJt...elated&search=

arnold is the man .

I like to look at the beginng and then try to foresee the future. The Dry look is back and i think the symetry will return as well as what is actually pleasing to the eye.

**britbb** · 10-07-2007, 07:53 PM

Ronnie destroys him hands down (as to be expected though seeing as its a different era).

Besides at the end of the clip you know that its a bias view because it shows one of the fake pictures from ironage.com (whatever the site is) where arnold is morphed next to ronnieyet looks a simmilar size because the scale, lighting and tone of the picture is completely different. You cant post up two different pictures from different eras and compare them lol.

Ronnie would have totally dwarved arnold yet in the pic he doesnt, thats cos the lighting, scale and tone are all different in both pictures.

**peteroy01** · 10-07-2007, 11:13 PM

how much did Arnold weigh during comps

**Igifuno** · 10-07-2007, 11:22 PM

i think arnold's biceps trump ronnies and are bigger as well.

**britbb** · 10-08-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

i think arnold's biceps trump ronnies and are bigger as well.

Theyre not in real life, but in the picture they are because its a bias picture from ironage.com

Ironage is constantly trying to 'prove' how the bodybuilders of old look better than todays guys...so arnold is in a different light, shading, texture, different distance from the camera etc etc..it all makes him look bigger against ronnie. These pictures are constantly cropping up over the net on all bb forums, theres loads on serge nubret and flex wheeler, haney and coleman etc etc.

If youd have put an arnold against ronnie in 2003, arnold would have been blown not just off stage but out of the room.

**novastepp** · 10-08-2007, 12:43 PM

arnold does look better. it looks very aesthetically pleasing, while ronnie looks bloated and blocky.

**britbb** · 10-08-2007, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by novastepp

arnold does look better. it looks very aesthetically pleasing, while ronnie looks bloated and blocky.

He did have nicer aesthetics thats true, much less freaky but beautiful shape.

Have you seen ronnie at his peak in real life? I saw him in 2004 just after the mr olympia when he came to london for the british gp that he won, id only seen him in pictures or videos etc before that. I was so impressed with how he looked, he looked incredible, totally unbelievable. When you saw that guy in the flesh in contest shape 2003-2004 his physique was totally incredible, then youd know there is no comparison mate.

I know things look different in pictures and i never used to like ronnies physique compared to say flex or kev but after seeing him in 2004 at the british gp it totally changed my perspective, in person he looked incredible.

**novastepp** · 10-08-2007, 06:28 PM

never seen him in person, and i bet it IS unbelievable. i really liked the way arnold looks, but again, only seen pics.

**Amorphic** · 10-08-2007, 07:06 PM

the classic look of the 70-80s is always going to mean something to everyone. nothing wrong with modern bbing, the look has evolved, but the old school look was pretty fantastic

**britbb** · 10-09-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by novastepp

never seen him in person, and i bet it IS unbelievable. i really liked the way arnold looks, but again, only seen pics.

I think its because of the extra mass and body contours that stick out more which makes it more of a sight to behold in real life. The camera doesnt pick up the contour and displacement of the figure but in real life when you saw ronnie it was incredible to see his back (in 2004 before injury) and the way it was contoured...like he was literally sculpted out of mounds of rock and granite, a walking, living and breathing sculpture.

I always hated the current pros physiques when i saw them in mags or video and always praised the 70's gang, thought that the current guys were repulsive (this was when i first started bb), then the changing point was seeing them in real life...what a difference it made, in real life they look totally different, you cant appreciate it until you see it up close in reality.

After that, my mind was changed.

**Swifto** · 10-09-2007, 11:34 AM

The video of Ronnie in the beginning are from the 2003 Olympia and IMHO thats the best ever package a bodybuilder has brought to the stage EVER.

He was unbeatable and I cant see anyone coming anywhere near that in the next 20-30 years.

He looks better than Arnold ever did there.

Ronnie 98' was also unbeatable. Possibly better than 2003.