How much trouble

**gixxerboy1** · 10-19-2007, 07:43 PM

My girlfriends friend has been dating some drug dealer. The used to live together. Well they just got back together ans she moved back in with him. I'm not sure if she is on the lease of the apartment. Well the cops just raided the apartment while both of them are home. Apparently there was a decent amount of drugs there. Both were arrested.

How much trouble is this girl in? She never sold or bought any. Wasn't involved in his deals. She doesn't even do drugs. But she was living in the house. How screwed is she?

**Kratos** · 10-19-2007, 07:45 PM

The cops need to prove she knew what was going on there. Advise her not to talk to the police and get a lawyer. If she says in a statement she knew about the drugs, she could be in some trouble. They will probably try to have her in a position to testify against him though and let her off. Don't do anything without a lawyer.

**l2elapse** · 10-19-2007, 07:46 PM

guilty by association

**StoneGRMI** · 10-19-2007, 07:49 PM

She'll only get possession if she plays it smart. Otherwise, she'll be screwed with intent to deal. IF she gets REALLY lucky, they'll let her go and put it all on the boyfriend.

**Odpierdol_sie!** · 10-19-2007, 07:54 PM

My father has a saying,
you liedown with dogs, you get up with fleas.

I should have listened to him more!!

**number twelve** · 10-19-2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by l2elapse

guilty by association

thats what i was thinkin, she should get a lawyer regardless as someone already said

**thegodfather** · 10-19-2007, 08:02 PM

They have to PROVE that she KNEW what was going on. This would mean when they raided the place drugs would have had to be in PLAIN SIGHT meaning that she would have seem them walking around the apartment doing her daily activities. Odds are this guy probably had them hidden and her lawyer should have no problem proving that she had no knowledge of his activities and that he hid it from her. However, if their telephones were tapped, and they ever engaged in a conversation where she acknowledged any type of knowledge about it, she will most likely be charged with conspiracy. Only reason I know this, is that a friend of mine got pinched a few years ago, his phone was tapped for 1 year, and from ONE telephone conversation with another friend of mine who was a girl, they charged her with conspiracy to try and get her to testify on him, but the charges ended up getting dismissed against her. However, with him, when he got raided he wasn't caught with ANY CDS, the evidence against him was 1 years worth of wiretaps, and an undercover Fed was doing drugs with him for 3 months, and buying large quantities every week. He ended up getting 5 years, and served 24 months... He's out on parole right now...

**gixxerboy1** · 10-19-2007, 08:19 PM

Thanks guys. I dont know the whole story either does my girl. But from the sounds of it shit was out in plain site. THey are trying to get her a lawyer now. I hope she hasn't already said anything.

Its sad. She is a good girl that feel for the wrong guy. All her friends kept telling her this was gonig to happen.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 10-19-2007, 08:29 PM

She's fvcked.

She's dating AND living with a known drug dealer. What more is there to say ?

**QuieTSToRM33** · 10-19-2007, 08:31 PM

She shouldn't have put herself in that situation to begin with.

**305GUY** · 10-19-2007, 08:45 PM

shes most likely going to be fine if she has a clean record. They are probably going to want her to give a statement (snitch) on the guy (and even testify against him if he takes it that far).. but she should be fine.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-19-2007, 08:52 PM

Not sure how it works in the states but in UK she would probably get a hard time in interview then possibly bailed to scare her so that she gives up the boyfriend. The police will be looking for a weak link to use against him and she is it. Very unlikely she would get charged with anything though unless her dabs are all over the drugs bags or some such thing to link her.

**Dizz28** · 10-19-2007, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

she would probably get a hard time in interview then possibly bailed to scare her so that she gives up the boyfriend.

sounds more like what would happen. They might charge her with a much lesser offence in exchange for a statement

**DIESELPWR** · 10-20-2007, 02:33 AM

sometimes it depends on the boyfriend.. if he takes the rap and says that she had nothing to do with it then she should be good..

**Lexed** · 10-20-2007, 08:11 AM

if the bf says she knew then she would prob be in deep shit

**AandF6969** · 10-20-2007, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lexed

if the bf says she knew then she would prob be in deep shit

His word is garbage.... they'd have to prove she knew.

**goodcents** · 10-20-2007, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by DIESELPWR

sometimes it depends on the boyfriend.. if he takes the rap and says that she had nothing to do with it then she should be good..

yeah that's what I would do

**goodcents** · 10-20-2007, 11:52 AM

Gix you know she knew what was going on, that's why she liked him, dangerous-that's what women like

she will rat him out

**goodcents** · 10-20-2007, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

My girlfriends friend has been dating some drug dealer. The used to live together. Well they just got back together ans she moved back in with him. I'm not sure if she is on the lease of the apartment. Well the cops just raided the apartment while both of them are home. Apparently there was a decent amount of drugs there. Both were arrested.

How much trouble is this girl in? She never sold or bought any. Wasn't involved in his deals. She doesn't even do drugs. But she was living in the house. How screwed is she?

Come on gix, you can tell us, did you get arrested and worried that your girl will spill the beans

I see a fishing trip coming up

(for the guys who can't figure out fishing trip, means dump them over board like on the sopranos

)

**gixxerboy1** · 10-20-2007, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by goodcents

Come on gix, you can tell us, did you get arrested and worried that your girl will spill the beans

I see a fishing trip coming up

(for the guys who can't figure out fishing trip, means dump them over board like on the sopranos

)

lol. This is why i date foreign girls. I would just call ICE and have her deported

**gixxerboy1** · 10-20-2007, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by goodcents

Gix you know she knew what was going on, that's why she liked him, dangerous-that's what women like

she will rat him out

She def knew. It was no secret. My girl and the rest of her friends were trying to get her to dump him. Its sad to you have to see this girl. she makes my girl look like a troll

**SnaX** · 10-20-2007, 01:40 PM

If she knew, then she is in a fair amount of trouble. She will have to lie, and say she JUST found out and was in the process, with her friends, to get the Fvck out of there.

However, since she's been with him BEFORE, and he was a dealer THEN, and he probably has a record dating back to that time, they will prolly go after her.

This is why you don't hand out with the wrong crowd.

Good luck to her!

**goodcents** · 10-20-2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

She def knew. It was no secret. My girl and the rest of her friends were trying to get her to dump him. Its sad to you have to see this girl. she makes my girl look like a troll

Yeah hot chics love that shlt (most of them have a screw loose anyway

)

**goodcents** · 10-20-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

lol. This is why i date foreign girls. I would just call ICE and have her deported

Does your girl ever go thru and read this site?

If you keep it on favorites she might go to user cp, figure out your screen name (or see her pic

)
You after that-

**BWhitaker** · 10-20-2007, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by thegodfather

They have to PROVE that she KNEW what was going on. This would mean when they raided the place drugs would have had to be in PLAIN SIGHT meaning that she would have seem them walking around the apartment doing her daily activities. she will most likely be charged with conspiracy.

Not necessarily. It does depend on the mental element required for the specific offense (which is jurisdictionally dependent). However, it is often the case that knowledge can be defined in more ways that just 100% knowledge. Often if it is reasonably the case that she would or should know, even if not her actually, then it could be decided that she had knowledge. Circumstantial proof such as how long she was dating him....did he have a job and where did his money come from...etc in order to make a legal inference to conclude knowledge.

Secondly, consipiracy would only be an option if they entered into an agreement to commit a crime (usually followed by an overt act short of attempt/aiding/abetting). However, this agreement need not be expressed or simultaneous. A tacit agreement arrived at through inference will suffice.

**sphincter** · 10-20-2007, 03:40 PM

if she was in there then she was most likely involved to some degree... not saying how I know.. but "some people" get their GF's to help in the process of transport and/or other acts to make it look more legit... most likely this smokin' hot girl was a damned fine distraction for this dealer to do his deeds and she knew it; and so did the police. she's probably fvcked as ther eis always more to the story than you know. I have (unfortunately) dealt with the pole-leese more than I care to and they frequently have a good amount of intel on this kind of stuff.

**Logan13** · 10-20-2007, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

My girlfriends friend has been dating some drug dealer. The used to live together. Well they just got back together ans she moved back in with him. I'm not sure if she is on the lease of the apartment. Well the cops just raided the apartment while both of them are home. Apparently there was a decent amount of drugs there. Both were arrested.

How much trouble is this girl in? She never sold or bought any. Wasn't involved in his deals. She doesn't even do drugs. But she was living in the house. How screwed is she?

accomplice unless she turns evidence. A friend of mine from high school got hooked up with a piece of shit who was selling crack out of their apartment during her first year of college. This girl went to a catholic H.S. and has never touched a drug. She was sent to a Federal Boot camp for 6 months. If she does not turn evidence, she is an accomplice.

**dedic8ed1** · 10-21-2007, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

My girlfriends friend has been dating some drug dealer. The used to live together. Well they just got back together ans she moved back in with him. I'm not sure if she is on the lease of the apartment. Well the cops just raided the apartment while both of them are home. Apparently there was a decent amount of drugs there. Both were arrested.

How much trouble is this girl in? She never sold or bought any. Wasn't involved in his deals. She doesn't even do drugs. But she was living in the house. How screwed is she?

Acompllice or if she's on the lease then she's got a problem.

See if people just went to work like everyone else they wouldn't have a problem.
Can't do that shit forever all good things come to an end and I know something about that game."Live in vice pay the price"

**BWhitaker** · 10-21-2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Logan13

accomplice unless she turns evidence. A friend of mine from high school got hooked up with a piece of shit who was selling crack out of their apartment during her first year of college. This girl went to a catholic H.S. and has never touched a drug. She was sent to a Federal Boot camp for 6 months. If she does not turn evidence, she is an accomplice.

to be an accomplice it would have to be shown that she played an actual role (the role would determine the degree of principality). This is more than mere knowledge

**IronReload04** · 10-21-2007, 05:17 PM

where theirs drugs, theirs trouble

**J*U*icEd** · 10-22-2007, 02:25 AM

similar situation happened to me and my girl except we were driving and got pulled over.... i took the wrap and they let her go... then i went to queens central bookings.... my favorite place!!!...lol j/k... i fvcking hate that shit hole...

**J*U*icEd** · 10-22-2007, 02:26 AM

double post... edited.... seems to be a lag on the board!

**Logan13** · 10-23-2007, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

to be an accomplice it would have to be shown that she played an actual role (the role would determine the degree of principality). This is more than mere knowledge

If the apartment was in her name or both of their names, she is an accomplice. The girl that I used in my example got pinched because she turned a blind-eye to what was going on in their apartment, therefore perpetuating the situation. This is not merely conjecture, it actually occurred. So if the judge was wrong in your opinion, I'll get you his phone number and you can take it up with him.