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    i agree with green. you must live in a bubble and the economy doesnt directly affect your living standards. jobs are leaving: people are moving. its not pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by green22 View Post

    Come look at all the factories that closed in NC. Manfacturing jobs are going to China, India. And all the cotton mills are going to Mexico. Not to mention Bank of America(which is based in Charlotte) just sent 2500 jobs to India 2 months ago. ...
    Thats how its supposed to work... These Jobs probably should have already left for India 10-20 years ago.. but tarriff's in place were delaying the inevitable and not only that but also cost these workers years of their lives.. they should have by now already gotten themselves into a different sector of the economy or educated in another field.

    When the economy runs efficient, it creates more jobs, because companies can grow at a faster pace.. The manufacturing jobs might be going bye-bye.. but distribution jobs and service jobs still need to be in place.. when companies save money on labor, it allows them to increase their workforce.. therefore creating new jobs.

    We also save money, because now product costs less to us, + we're not paying double through taxes that support tarriffs and subsidizing.. that also leaves more money left over for the average person, to start their own business, and hire his or her own employees.

    I bet you know a bunch of people who own their own business's and are maybe struggling a bit? Well they would be doing a lot better, if they weren't paying outrageous Corporate taxes.. that are just going towards support busniness's that cannot be saved! Its just money down the toilet every single year..
    Instead let those die.. and give your uncle or dad or whoever own his own lil shop .. give him the extra money, let his bussiness strive like it should, and let him hire employees and grow... Thats the natural proccess of success and elimination.. Let the good business's trive and expand hire new employees and let the dying ones die..

    Also with Tarriff's and subsidizes eliminated, it also means less taxes for everyone.. which also equals more money in your pocket..

    and also could lead to you starting your own business, and hiring your own employees.

    By cutting out unneeded monetary waste created by taxation, and supporting industries that cannot support themselves.. we are wasting our money.

    Instead we should take money, and give you that $10,000 a year, in less taxation, and that will give you more flexibility to either A) get more educated.. or B) start your own business, and really do what u want with your life..

    too many people are living paycheck to paycheck,,

    “Economic freedom IS freedom.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by inky-e View Post
    if obama wins he'll be sworn in with the koran instead of bible.HELLO!the koran!i'll vote for hillary...the lesser of two evils!
    "Barack Obama is a committed and active Christian. He has been a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, where he continues to attend services with his family. Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity, and in January 2005 he was sworn into the U.S. Senate on his family Bible."

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    any republican will keep us over there. Im voting obama. Cant be more retarded then the monkey we have in there now

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    any republican will keep us over there. Im voting obama. Cant be more retarded then the monkey we have in there now
    LMAO!!!!! yeah he's a pure genuis aint he?? LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheddaNips View Post
    any republican will keep us over there. Im voting obama. Cant be more retarded then the monkey we have in there now
    someone else who doesnt know about ron paul.

    everyone says he wont win.

    all those election polls on cnn and fox arent even real. they are "sceintfical" and "anticipated"

    dont be fooled the people who own and run the media companies arent the kind of people who want ron paul to win, they arent your average middle class americans.

    The media likes to pick who they want and so do the special interests.

    Go read CNN claimer they never claim there stats as real.

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    I like Paul, but he wont win. You dont have to belive the polls but the results speak for themselves. How many states has he won??? ZERO. The media does like to pick "their" canidate and give them tons of coverage. Unfortunatly Paul hasnt got the coverage and wont win.. But he is definatly the republican that I would chose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green22 View Post
    I like Paul, but he wont win. You dont have to belive the polls but the results speak for themselves. How many states has he won??? ZERO. The media does like to pick "their" canidate and give them tons of coverage. Unfortunatly Paul hasnt got the coverage and wont win.. But he is definatly the republican that I would chose.
    Your right that he won't win, but a huge change in the way people think takes more than just a few months to accomplish. We'll start to see more and more people running for congressional positions in the next four years that represent the true republican party or "Ron Paul" republicans.

    Here are a few "Ron Paul" republicans running for office now:
    http://www.murraysabrin.com/home.aspx
    http://www.jimforsythe.com/

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    **ck Muslims

    This country isnt ready for a MUSLIM leader. His religion believes were INFIDELS and that we should burn. **CK that shit. GO MCCAIN..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Dracula937 View Post
    This country isnt ready for a MUSLIM leader. His religion believes were INFIDELS and that we should burn. **CK that shit. GO MCCAIN..
    ummm, he isn't a muslim just so you know.

    I'm not a fan of Obama though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Dracula937 View Post
    This country isnt ready for a MUSLIM leader. His religion believes were INFIDELS and that we should burn. **CK that shit. GO MCCAIN..
    Catch a clue. The Whole Muslim thing is so 5 months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkseed View Post
    no shit!! if some people would just read the man's book...he puts it ALL out there for the public to see.
    U guys should look at who he supports aswell...his views and his beliefs(not all but most)are very anti usa...his pastor has some pretty radical views aswell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    ummm, he isn't a muslim just so you know.

    I'm not a fan of Obama though.
    Ur right he isnt a muslim he is baptist but has alot of anti american views!And is supported by a few anti americans aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    "Barack Obama is a committed and active Christian. He has been a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, where he continues to attend services with his family. Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity, and in January 2005 he was sworn into the U.S. Senate on his family Bible."

    yes not muslim but radical christian
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif View Post
    Ur right he isnt a muslim he is baptist but has alot of anti american views!And is supported by a few anti americans aswell
    What is an anti-american view?. There is no such thing as "an american view". America is made up of many societies, cultures, opinions...diversity. They are all american views...including Obamas views.

    Funny how diversity always scares the hell out of conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Catch a clue. The Whole Muslim thing is so 5 months ago.
    Not really here are some photos from london not shown on american tv

    And i know this doesnt reflect all muslim beleifs but still scary i might add
    It might not be talked about like it was but not many things will be rite now with the debates and everything if u noticed none of the canadates have really been talking about the war.
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    I don’t know I am a conservative. I liked rudy, not crazy about the other guy. I have a gut feeling that obamma my actually want to make a difference. If so he may get my vote. However, if he decides to run with what’s her face I would loose all respect for him. If she wins I’m leaving the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xero View Post
    What is an anti-american view?. There is no such thing as "an american view". America is made up of many societies, cultures, opinions...diversity. They are all american views...including Obamas views.

    Funny how diversity always scares the hell out of conservatives.
    i am definitly not scared of diversity the more the better.I think anti-Semitic was the frase i was looking for,sry but i have a hard time saying what i mean some times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    I don’t know I am a conservative. I liked rudy, not crazy about the other guy. I have a gut feeling that obamma my actually want to make a difference. If so he may get my vote. However, if he decides to run with what’s her face I would loose all respect for him. If she wins I’m leaving the country.
    I think that was a clinton tactic to insure her party of a win cause she knows obama has a fighting chance
    U know just to see if obama would bight ,keep ur friends close and ur enemy,s closer
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif View Post
    Not really here are some photos from london not shown on american tv

    And i know this doesnt reflect all muslim beleifs but still scary i might add
    It might not be talked about like it was but not many things will be rite now with the debates and everything if u noticed none of the canadates have really been talking about the war.
    Obama is not Muslim so how do these idiots with the signs relate to Obama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif View Post
    i am definitly not scared of diversity the more the better.I think anti-Semitic was the frase i was looking for,sry but i have a hard time saying what i mean some times.
    Obama is not antisemitic either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpd4lif View Post
    I think that was a clinton tactic to insure her party of a win cause she knows obama has a fighting chance
    U know just to see if obama would bight ,keep ur friends close and ur enemy,s closer
    I think she asked him to be vice president to piss him off and get him to say something he shouldn't on camara. It was kinda funny if you ask me and you can tell he was pissed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    I think she asked him to be vice president to piss him off and get him to say something he shouldn't on camara. It was kinda funny if you ask me and you can tell he was pissed off.
    He handled it well. If you saw his response it was pretty damn funny.
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    I like how you all talk about these candidates like you now them or trust them. Their all out to take your gear, money, and gym membership.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Their all out to take your gear, money, and gym membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BITTAPART2 View Post
    no I dont really know howcold a cave in Afghanastan is because i have never been inside one. Also I appologize because I didnt realize we actually knew where he was, duh that estate over there, lets just let him be. How un-informed I am, I had no idea we knew where he was.

    most intel points still to the afghan/paki border but favors Pakistan.
    Joke

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    since i consider my self an "INDEPENDENT EXTREMIST", id like it if we didnt have just one damn person running the country. we need a parliament!!! LMAO!!!!!

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    Obama not president of USA but KKKA
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB's Dad View Post
    Obama not president of USA but KKKA
    ha a fan of the big talker huh

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    It amazes me how much incorrect information there is out there about Obama. Some of you guys really make yourselves sound like idiots.

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