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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    You have to understand that common Americans have no sympathy for anyone but themselves and view someone else having their rights blatantly violated doesn't bother them. I mean, its not them right?

    Only until it hits close to home will they wake up and start asking questions or get upset about it.

    Little do they know, this could have easily been them or a member of their family.

    Americans are the most un-nationalistic people on the earth. So undivided...violating Americans rights is like taking candy from a baby these days.

    It's just a damn shame no1 else see's this, and I guess im fortunate that I only just started noticing this in the last few years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muriloninja View Post
    You have to understand that common Americans have no sympathy for anyone but themselves and view someone else having their rights blatantly violated doesn't bother them. I mean, its not them right?

    Only until it hits close to home will they wake up and start asking questions or get upset about it.

    Little do they know, this could have easily been them or a member of their family.

    Americans are the most un-nationalistic people on the earth. So undivided...violating Americans rights is like taking candy from a baby these days.
    agreed.

    i have no problem with police, but we do live in a police state. the established powers have become expert at keeping us devided so they may do as they please. long live the two party system, for those that oppose, off with their heads.

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    that was awesome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson9d View Post
    agreed.

    i have no problem with police, but we do live in a police state. the established powers have become expert at keeping us devided so they may do as they please. long live the two party system, for those that oppose, off with their heads.
    Its like you read my mind, my thoughts exactly.

    There is a real shift in this country away from American ideals that I thought would never happen. What seems sad is that even the more educated seem to be falling for the grips of socialism and security at the cost of liberty. The mentality that the government and the elite know better how the common man should live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Well I wasn't aware that "america destroying liberals" required Riot Gear swat teams to subdue them. Can't you see what the West is becoming? I mean these weren't people rampaging through the city and tearing the place apart. Do you personally think no1 should have the right to protest?
    well, actually they were fukkin stuff up, lighting small fires and vandalising shiit in the city during this particular event.

    i was in miami at the time,,, this video does not show all of what had occurred during those days.

    look up FTAA events in miami in 2003, (free trade agreement of the americas).

    other FTAA events in other major cities that year were also full of violent protesters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Well I wasn't aware that "america destroying liberals" required Riot Gear swat teams to subdue them. Can't you see what the West is becoming? I mean these weren't people rampaging through the city and tearing the place apart. Do you personally think no1 should have the right to protest?
    They had the right to protest, and that is what she should have been doing instead of making herself singled out away from the rest of the group. Did anyone else that was in the area they were most likely granted access to for their "peaceful protest" get hit with rubber bullets? I wasn't there, so I obviously can't say for certain. But from what the video showed, this lady was the one and only to receive this type of treatment.

    Doesn't that tell you anything, that even her co-horts and fellow protestors weren't standing beside her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleSportMag View Post
    They had the right to protest, and that is what she should have been doing instead of making herself singled out away from the rest of the group. Did anyone else that was in the area they were most likely granted access to for their "peaceful protest" get hit with rubber bullets? I wasn't there, so I obviously can't say for certain. But from what the video showed, this lady was the one and only to receive this type of treatment.

    Doesn't that tell you anything, that even her co-horts and fellow protestors weren't standing beside her?

    I didn't watch the video because I already know that cops are ignorant dickheads who enjoy using violence on others, but I'm curious to hear about who this woman was threatening or harming so badly that she needed to be shot.

    Was she throwing rocks at the police or something?

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    The police are being taught that the citizens of this country are the enemy.

    When the cops come to your house on a steroid raid, wearing body armor and armed with machine guns... using "shock and awe" tactics to break down the entire front of your house with a power ram, shoot your dogs as they're running away, throw your screaming/crying wife or mother face down on the floor and handcuff her hands behind her back TIGHT, and then tazer you and fire rounds of "rubber" bullets into you because they feel "threatened"... maybe then you'll develop a belated appreciation for the Bill of Rights and the popular liberties the Founding Fathers fought to establish in this country.

    That so many of you feel only "weak liberals" would oppose unlimited tyrany against the citizenry of this country shows that the war of perception and redefinition of terms is being lost.

    It is STRONG to fight for LIBERTY.

    (N.B. See also: "Boston Masacre")
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre

    -Big Little Tim
    (Proud to be a Boston Liberal. We'd all still be wearing powdered wigs and buying jewels for Queen Elizabeth without us Boston "Liberals" willing to stand up to tyrany.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLittleTim View Post
    The police are being taught that the citizens of this country are the enemy.

    When the cops come to your house on a steroid raid, wearing body armor and armed with machine guns... using "shock and awe" tactics to break down the entire front of your house with a power ram, shoot your dogs as they're running away, throw your screaming/crying wife or mother face down on the floor and handcuff her hands behind her back TIGHT, and then tazer you and fire rounds of "rubber" bullets into you because they feel "threatened"... maybe then you'll develop a belated appreciation for the Bill of Rights and the popular liberties the Founding Fathers fought to establish in this country.

    That so many of you feel only "weak liberals" would oppose unlimited tyrany against the citizenry of this country shows that the war of perception and redefinition of terms is being lost.

    It is STRONG to fight for LIBERTY.

    (N.B. See also: "Boston Masacre")
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre

    -Big Little Tim
    (Proud to be a Boston Liberal. We'd all still be wearing powdered wigs and buying jewels for Queen Elizabeth without us Boston "Liberals" willing to stand up to tyrany.)
    Not lumping steroids in with the "real" drugs like coke and dope, but if you're dealing in weight - and judging by your hypothetical description, that is what would be necessary to do a 'no-knock' search warrant of that magnitude - while living with family members, then you are rolling the dice and have to pay the piper if he comes a callin'. The Bill of Rights written by our Founding Fathers also didn't intend for people to break laws and become targets of the police, right?

    We're not all saints, and I don't profess to be one. But I have a hard time justifying that breaking the law and 'fighting the power' is fighting for liberty. If you put yourself in a position to have the cops bust your balls, then change what you're doing, at least enough to avoid the hassle.

    Kind of hard to see the analogy of fighting for a country's independence and being annoyed when cops come down on you for breaking a law. Yea, I know...you'll come back with the old "but that was breaking law back then" argument. Gaining independence is different from wanting to get away with buying weed. Slightly...

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