Busted

[mediumpimpin]

Do not start that small Guy...

That sucks Panda, im sorry to hear it bro... But i gotta say i agree with killaB...

Keep you mouth shut! Always take the 5th, you dont have to answer any questions especially without a attorney present...






You seem kinda proud of this pimpin...

Either way if you got three years probation, it might not be such a good idea to post the article about you gettin pinched, especially with your name and hometown plastered all over it...

Naw not proud its done and over with, whats to hide of it? If I still handled it would be different, no worries but thanks for looking out.

[Bullyson]

Ur not givin us all the details or facts but from what ur saying: 1. Yes they have probable cause, if they pull u over or something to that effect and smell marijuana then they can search. If they find something else besides what they were looking for of course they can charge u with that, i.e. coke, weapons, etc. 2. Biggest mistake u made was saying its steroids or admitting to anything to the DA (worst person ever to admit anything to). I dont care if the vial said steroids in huge bold font! If they ask, say its vitamins, water, cough medicine, whatever, end of conversation. If they want to charge u with steroid posession then they have to prove its actually steroids, think they would? No, but since u already admitted it was, ur fu*ked! U guys ever watch cops? Notice when they stop the crack head on the side of the street just cus he looks like a crack head, find crack on him, detain (but dont yet arrest him), then test it right there and then to prove it is actual crack before they arrest him. Think cops have steroid test kits in their car? No! Think if u told them it was just vitamins and left it at that they would still bug u, maybe but then the cop would have to prove u wrong and prove it really is steroids. Now do u think a cop would go through all that trouble to test it just to do more paperwork so u can pay a fine, na bro. Theres the 5th amendment and its there for a reason! Never ever, admit sh*t to the cops bro NEVER! That whole bs, "If u tell me ill make it easier on u" is just a trick. If anything its only makin it easier for the cop and the DA to do less work, cops r lazy bro. At least u were smart enough to get an attorney, hopefully he can pull some strings for u. Future reference, NEVER EVER ADMIT SH*T TO THE AUTHORITIES ABOUT ANYTHING. Innocent until proven guilty is the term but its really guilty until proven innocent with our fu*ked judicial system.

Damn good post and points. I've been on the wrong side of the law more times than I care to talk about. Its like this.

Rule#1: NEVER EVER SNITCH FOR ANY REASON EVER!
Rule#2: NEVER ADMIT TO SHIT! (thats what lawyers are for)
Rule#3: The less you say, the better off you are PERIOD.
Rule#4: No matter what they say, the fuc*in cop is NOT YOUR BUDDY!
So sit back, shut up and let your lawyer do his job. Good luck bro!

[WARMachine]

No worries pimpin

[facile]

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Good luck with your problem.

[BuffBuffalo]

Wow that really sucks man! Like everyones said I hope you didn't say too much. Best of luck!

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Well i got busted. Cops found my T400. Got a good lawyer, ive found a lil bit of info on steroid laws on the web but wanted to ask ppl that may have been through it b4 what im probably looking at. I got a good lawyer, it was about 20 ml's so what yall think? worst case sceario? good record first offender?

No weed then no problem... It's called common sense.

I bet it went down just like this:

1. Loud Party. 2. Neighbor called the police. 3. police show up knock on the door and smell good ol smoke. 4. Theres the PC, now they own your house. 4. searched and found your roids.

Moral of the story: Give up the smoke.

[OH REALLY]

Good luck bro

[CHEVYMAN646]

it all depends on the state you live in but if it is/was your home, then it is possible that the search was done illegally if you did not give consent. in some states their is an expectation of privacy that is greater than say your car or a public place, hotel business, or etc. if they smelled weed, then they can detain you and get a warrant. however they would need to get the warrant to search, unless you agreed. this only applies in the instance where you did not grant consent and the "room" is your "primary residence". not a hotel room or similar place. if the juice however was plainly visible and the officer entered the room under the pretense of detaining you and clearing the room of person's who may destroy evidence and then saw the plain view juice, then the arrest/"plain view search" would be legal. also cops can arrest for items, smoke etc. without a field test on the item but the arrest must be based on "training and experience". that gives them probable cause for the arrest, but not the conviction. the drugs must be tested at a lab for the conviction part. keep in mind, laws do vary from state to state. good luck. probation is my guess.

[MattUK666]

Death Penalty.

[RuhlFreak55]

No weed then no problem... It's called common sense.

I bet it went down just like this:

1. Loud Party. 2. Neighbor called the police. 3. police show up knock on the door and smell good ol smoke. 4. Theres the PC, now they own your house. 4. searched and found your roids.

Moral of the story: Give up the smoke.

this thread is retarded.....ur asking for trouble with more than one illegality

[Rugger02]

thats a freaking joke and the DA is wasting the courts time by persuing charges for a 20ml bottle. of course you'll get nothing more then probation but its pathetic that it even went this far. the cop should of wrote you up for disorderly conduct and taken it instead of wasting time and money to have you stand before a judge

Agreed, out here you might get probation, but more likely a fine and community service. Best of Luck

[stallion_1]

when the people are afraid of the government there is a dictatorship
when the government is afraid of the people there is liberty.........

[RuhlFreak55]

when the people are afraid of the government there is a dictatorship
when the government is afraid of the people there is liberty.........

and that's why i think this country is about done.......we're damn near to dictatorship stage as you put it

[thegodfather]

Ur not givin us all the details or facts but from what ur saying: 1. Yes they have probable cause, if they pull u over or something to that effect and smell marijuana then they can search. If they find something else besides what they were looking for of course they can charge u with that, i.e. coke, weapons, etc. 2. Biggest mistake u made was saying its steroids or admitting to anything to the DA (worst person ever to admit anything to). I dont care if the vial said steroids in huge bold font! If they ask, say its vitamins, water, cough medicine, whatever, end of conversation. If they want to charge u with steroid posession then they have to prove its actually steroids, think they would? No, but since u already admitted it was, ur fu*ked! U guys ever watch cops? Notice when they stop the crack head on the side of the street just cus he looks like a crack head, find crack on him, detain (but dont yet arrest him), then test it right there and then to prove it is actual crack before they arrest him. Think cops have steroid test kits in their car? No! Think if u told them it was just vitamins and left it at that they would still bug u, maybe but then the cop would have to prove u wrong and prove it really is steroids. Now do u think a cop would go through all that trouble to test it just to do more paperwork so u can pay a fine, na bro. Theres the 5th amendment and its there for a reason! Never ever, admit sh*t to the cops bro NEVER! That whole bs, "If u tell me ill make it easier on u" is just a trick. If anything its only makin it easier for the cop and the DA to do less work, cops r lazy bro. At least u were smart enough to get an attorney, hopefully he can pull some strings for u. Future reference, NEVER EVER ADMIT SH*T TO THE AUTHORITIES ABOUT ANYTHING. Innocent until proven guilty is the term but its really guilty until proven innocent with our fu*ked judicial system.

Under no circumstances should you EVER say that its steroids, water, vitamins, or anything else. That is terrible advice. The Police WILL test the substance and you will be charged with it. You are not going to talk yourself out of being arrested. If you say "Its vitamins," they test it, lab reports come back AAS. Now what you have essentially done is destroyed the clients credability, almost to the point that its suicidal to put him on the stand. The DA will read back the transcript of the conversation between Officer and Defendant, ask him why he lied, and then will be branded as a liar in the jury's eyes. He lost all credability by trying to 'cover his tracks.'

The most important thing anyone can do...Is sit there in absolute silence, not uttering a word, not even asking if you can goto the bathroom.

[Skully44420]

was it mary jane perhaps?

yeah thats what "kush" is...that is probable cause to search a room or house

sorry to hear your bad luck man

[Rugger02]

Under no circumstances should you EVER say that its steroids , water, vitamins, or anything else. That is terrible advice. The Police WILL test the substance and you will be charged with it. You are not going to talk yourself out of being arrested. If you say "Its vitamins," they test it, lab reports come back AAS. Now what you have essentially done is destroyed the clients credability, almost to the point that its suicidal to put him on the stand. The DA will read back the transcript of the conversation between Officer and Defendant, ask him why he lied, and then will be branded as a liar in the jury's eyes. He lost all credability by trying to 'cover his tracks.'

The most important thing anyone can do...Is sit there in absolute silence, not uttering a word, not even asking if you can goto the bathroom.

Agreed. That's a good way to end up with an Obstructing ticket as well.
Believe me I've had lots from my younger dumber days

[BgMc31]

Depends what state you live in and their laws, and if you got money. No money, no chance! Public pretenders get paid by the same person that is trying to put you in jail, the (DA)! I'f it is your 1st time in trouble with the law, then they will put you on prob and make you go to some programes and pay fees and fines and draw it out as long as possible, to make as much money as they can!!!!!!!!!!!


IT'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE THING, IT'S BEEN A GREEN THING, SINCE THE SLAVES WHERE BOUGHT! WHO DID THE WHITE MAN BY THEM FROM IN AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why even interject race into this? Especially if you don't have a clue about the western slave trade!

....anyway, too many variables to give an accurate assessment. But judging from what you have said, with that little amount, I don't foresee any jail time. Especially if you can determine personal usage and not intent to distribute. Good luck!

[PandaChicken]

yeah honestly im hoping the sh*t was fake i got it a while back and only shot it like twice then i got food poisoning got really sick and flat out stopped taking it and ive been saving it for a rainy day. I dont recall it hurting much and from what ive been reading t400 supposed to be pretty painful and i just think id remember that if it hurt real bad. Also ive been looking at pics of it on this board in the pics section and i cant find one that looked like mine. Mine was a printed looking label no holo anywhere. I know exactly who i got it from it was a source i stumbled accross on hear a couple years back who is now not in service in the US anymore.

[thegodfather]

yeah honestly im hoping the sh*t was fake i got it a while back and only shot it like twice then i got food poisoning got really sick and flat out stopped taking it and ive been saving it for a rainy day. I dont recall it hurting much and from what ive been reading t400 supposed to be pretty painful and i just think id remember that if it hurt real bad. Also ive been looking at pics of it on this board in the pics section and i cant find one that looked like mine. Mine was a printed looking label no holo anywhere. I know exactly who i got it from it was a source i stumbled accross on hear a couple years back who is now not in service in the US anymore.

Unfortunately, even if it is fake you will be charged with it as if it were not. It is illegal to posess "drug look alikes" that contain no banned substances at all. The punishments for being in posession of such look alikes is often close to or equal to the punishment as if it had been a real scheduled substance. Either way, lawyer up, and keep your mouth shut...

[Kale]

Here's a TON of helpful info for you. Hopefully you didn't say too much:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33318153586646

This is a GREAT video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DeputyLoneWolf]

Unfortunately, even if it is fake you will be charged with it as if it were not. It is illegal to posess "drug look alikes" that contain no banned substances at all. The punishments for being in posession of such look alikes is often close to or equal to the punishment as if it had been a real scheduled substance. Either way, lawyer up, and keep your mouth shut...

Where are you from? Not true at all. If you buy Creatine powder from a guy thinking its cocaine and then you get arrested and its tested, it would be shown to be fake. The cops would laugh at you, call you a dumb ass and let you go. Take it from a cop...

[40plusnewbie]

Unfortunately, even if it is fake you will be charged with it as if it were not. It is illegal to posess "drug look alikes" that contain no banned substances at all. The punishments for being in posession of such look alikes is often close to or equal to the punishment as if it had been a real scheduled substance. Either way, lawyer up, and keep your mouth shut...

But there is a big difference between having some little baggies of white powder (baking soda) in your pocket and a fat roll of $10's while standing on the street corner and having a KG package of white powder sitting on your dining room mantle with a stamp that is indictive of that stuff. In the latter case I'm pretty confident that if there was no evidence of intent to distribute that any lawyer could get the person off as it is a joke home decorative ornament.

Or an antique bottle with a stamp on it indictive of a type of substance that is illegal but used to be legal 100 years ago and the bottle is filled with water or whatever. It's an ornament, a collectible. No jury would convict someone for such things unless there was evidence that there was intent to distribute the non illegal substance as an illegal substance.

[40plusnewbie]

Where are you from? Not true at all. If you buy Creatine powder from a guy thinking its cocaine and then you get arrested and its tested, it would be shown to be fake. The cops would laugh at you, call you a dumb ass and let you go. Take it from a cop...

I think he's confused and talking about ppl in possession of that stuff under circumstances that seem to indicate intent to distribute under false pretenses.

[Chode Logan]

Come to Canada, where you can possess up to 30 Grams of your precious kush without being charged or anything, and a hell of a lot more than 20 ml's of gear. As long as it's not an absurd amount and it's clear it's personal use. Ahh Vancouver, where people smoke up on the the sidewalk and you're allowed to have a personal stash of gear.

I completely agree it's absurd that drinking and smoking is not only legal but ADVERTISED and those are the worst drugs of all, kill people daily. Yet the green stuff and juice are illegal. I'd rather live in a world filled with sauced-out, relaxed, free thinking stoned juice monkeys than cancerous, drunk, puking, fat noisy people.

[thegodfather]

Where are you from? Not true at all. If you buy Creatine powder from a guy thinking its cocaine and then you get arrested and its tested, it would be shown to be fake. The cops would laugh at you, call you a dumb ass and let you go. Take it from a cop...

Yes, I was referring to the instances where people attempt to pass of look alikes as real drugs. The court doesn't make a distinction there. Depending on his states laws, it is up to them how to interpret 20mL's. If they interpret each mL as a dosage unit, he may be put into intent to distribute. I believe the new law is every .5mL is one dosage unit. Regardless of if its 1mg/mL...Laws suck dont they...

[PandaChicken]

Come to Canada, where you can possess up to 30 Grams of your precious kush without being charged or anything, and a hell of a lot more than 20 ml's of gear. As long as it's not an absurd amount and it's clear it's personal use. Ahh Vancouver, where people smoke up on the the sidewalk and you're allowed to have a personal stash of gear.

I completely agree it's absurd that drinking and smoking is not only legal but ADVERTISED and those are the worst drugs of all, kill people daily. Yet the green stuff and juice are illegal. I'd rather live in a world filled with sauced-out, relaxed, free thinking stoned juice monkeys than cancerous, drunk, puking, fat noisy people.

Yeah no sh*t, after all this is said and done.....im out i dont understand why so many ppl want to live in this country, its far from free.

[Amorphic]

its so sad that you american guys have to live in fear over something as small as 20mls of test.

come to canada, possession is not illegal.

[40plusnewbie]

Not only is it illegal but I think you get a felony conviction on your criminal record. That will stay there for at least 10 years (you can apply to have your record sealed for felonies after 10 years of a clean record) but even if you do that it's gonna say "record sealed" and potential employers are going to be wondering if you were convicted of armed robbery or child molestation or some shit...so your stuck with a felony record for life. Nice addition to a job resume.

[PandaChicken]

yeah i kno its a felony. how likely is it that ill be able to get it reduced to a misdemeanor. does that happen alot? I wish cops weren't such dickheads

[40plusnewbie]

yeah i kno its a felony. how likely is it that ill be able to get it reduced to a misdemeanor. does that happen alot? I wish cops weren't such dickheads

Your lawyer is the man to deal with. If he has pull (and you pay) he can get you to plead to totally different charges and get charges dropped, or get them to be continued without a finding for a year (i.e. if you don't get in any trouble for that year it disappears).

You don't want no felony (if steroid possesson is one, not sure) on your record. What you want is your lawyer to get you a deal where you plead to disorderly conduct or some low level shizat like that and have the possession charges continued without a finding (or dropped) and then make sure to keep your nose clean if it is continued without a finding.

Some lawyers are good buddies with judges and prosecutors and make deals all the time. You gotta pay thou, no public defender is gonna pull that off for you.

[wukillabee]

Yeah no sh*t, after all this is said and done.....im out i dont understand why so many ppl want to live in this country, its far from free.

HAha, thats cus they havent lived here yet. When they do get here theyre like wtf, i came all the way here for this sh*t? Haha! Im movin to canada asap for many reason, most important one is health care! Cant live in a country that doesnt give a fu*k about ur health!

[wukillabee]

its so sad that you american guys have to live in fear over something as small as 20mls of test.

come to canada, possession is not illegal.

WHy is that? Possession of a personal amount of gear is cool but its illegal to purchase gear right? Um how do i get the gear then? Cant buy it on the black market or at the rite aid but if i do get it some one way or another and get caught with it then its all good. Never understood that crazy canadian law. Im sure making it is illegal too right? U cant buy it, cant make it, but u can have it, wtf is that all about? HAha. Same with marijuana im assuming too right? Cant grow it or buy it but can smoke it, hows that work?

[Bojangles69]

Panda when I was serving my state term my bunkie was doing 5 with a mandatory 4 for possession of one vial just with traces.
They pinned distribution charges just because they didn't like him.

Even said it on his judgement of conviction "defendant was not liked by anyone, so we have him 5 years".
Ahaaa.
Seriously, I've been behind the walls for a bit and I saw ONE guy the WHOLE time who was in for juice. He also had a trunk LOADED with enough for a small tribe for 10 years.

Probation, a fine, and of course a record.
So make sure shit doesn't happen again.

[PandaChicken]

Your lawyer is the man to deal with. If he has pull (and you pay) he can get you to plead to totally different charges and get charges dropped, or get them to be continued without a finding for a year (i.e. if you don't get in any trouble for that year it disappears).

You don't want no felony (if steroid possesson is one, not sure) on your record. What you want is your lawyer to get you a deal where you plead to disorderly conduct or some low level shizat like that and have the possession charges continued without a finding (or dropped) and then make sure to keep your nose clean if it is continued without a finding.

Some lawyers are good buddies with judges and prosecutors and make deals all the time. You gotta pay thou, no public defender is gonna pull that off for you.

Yeah aint no public defender.... actually hes my uncle, hes gotten minor charges dropped for me no prob, gotten dad off dui and child endangerment lol... so im confident hes gonna pull something for me, ive just never been facing a felony charge b4 (not to mention i obviously got charged with somethin else that night too) thats why i concerned

[stallion_1]

WHy is that? Possession of a personal amount of gear is cool but its illegal to purchase gear right? Um how do i get the gear then? Cant buy it on the black market or at the rite aid but if i do get it some one way or another and get caught with it then its all good. Never understood that crazy canadian law. Im sure making it is illegal too right? U cant buy it, cant make it, but u can have it, wtf is that all about? HAha. Same with marijuana im assuming too right? Cant grow it or buy it but can smoke it, hows that work?

i dont know about canada but in the uk its legal to posses for personal use but illegal to sell.

[Bojangles69]

WHy is that? Possession of a personal amount of gear is cool but its illegal to purchase gear right? Um how do i get the gear then? Cant buy it on the black market or at the rite aid but if i do get it some one way or another and get caught with it then its all good. Never understood that crazy canadian law. Im sure making it is illegal too right? U cant buy it, cant make it, but u can have it, wtf is that all about? HAha. Same with marijuana im assuming too right? Cant grow it or buy it but can smoke it, hows that work?

Canadians are like the comcast commerical with the turtles, ya know?


They're cute sure but would you trust them to make our laws?

[Bojangles69]

Yeah aint no public defender.... actually hes my uncle, hes gotten minor charges dropped for me no prob, gotten dad off dui and child endangerment lol... so im confident hes gonna pull something for me, ive just never been facing a felony charge b4 (not to mention i obviously got charged with somethin else that night too) thats why i concerned

DUI and child endangerment?
Depending on your *other charge they could mandate you to a drug court or rehab, which I actually see them doing in addition to probation and the fines.

[Coop77]

when I was 17 I got out of a dui, I wasnt drunk but underage dwai=dui and the charge was dismissed because I shut my mouth, i passed a sobriety test and they still tried to make me do a breathlizer.. i refused and asked for a blood test two hours later i was at the hospital with no alcohol in my system. cost me towing only

That doesn't work in CA. If you refuse the breathalyzer it's an automatic 1-year suspension of your license. Unfair but that's the way it is.

[Bojangles69]

Yeh refusal is automatic DWI. don't know wear he lives.

[ChiTownTommy]

The same thing happened to me

I'm Fuked, Need Help Bad, Cops Busted Me

I got cought with alot more then roids though the dropped the controled substance charge for the roids which is a felony if i plead gulty to the possesion of mary jane, the whole fake id they could never amount enough evidence.

I had a clean record the will most likly give you a fine and put you n probabtion no sweat. what state you live in?