Obama's Top 100 verified undisputed factual list of Lies!

[Diary of a Mad-man]

No, the reason I want them to bring back the troops is because I find it pointless and I think the USA should focus on its on problems instead of problems of other countries. Stop invading other countries territory and focus on your own stuff for a change. I think the USA isn't in a position anymore to play the World Police.

And I think I should add that I have nothing against USA.

Yes to some extent you are right. We cant be everywhere at once. We shouldnt be the world police.

But the problem is, if you are dead, you wont care what luxuries you have or how the economy is.

Fact of the matter is (no matter how many times you repeat the lie) we found WMDs in Iraq. We found tons of bioweapons, just not nukes. When a hostile country (that wont let weapons inspectors do their jobs) threatens us, and we have proof of them making Botulism Toxins and Anthrax, then we have a decision to make. Also, Saddam was a proven supporter of terrorists at the time, even giving bounties to Palestinian suicide bomber's families, and gave asylum to AlQuaeda leaders.

No, i didnt say anything about 911 and Saddam, so dont go that route either.

By the way, Iraq broke UN resolution after UN Resolution, and in the year 1998, BILL CLINTON unloaded our arsenal of cruise missles on iraqi targets. He also bombed a Sudanese aspirin factory that had links to UBL. Where are all the people saying Bill is a war monger or what a waste of money it was, or how many civilians died. Where is the night after night of bad press propaganda about all of the fighting we did under Clinton?

[INM]

Yes to some extent you are right. We cant be everywhere at once. We shouldnt be the world police.

Good, then we agree

But the problem is, if you are dead, you wont care what luxuries you have or how the economy is.

Fact of the matter is (no matter how many times you repeat the lie) we found WMDs in Iraq. We found tons of bioweapons, just not nukes. When a hostile country (that wont let weapons inspectors do their jobs) threatens us, and we have proof of them making Botulism Toxins and Anthrax, then we have a decision to make. Also, Saddam was a proven supporter of terrorists at the time, even giving bounties to Palestinian suicide bomber's families, and gave asylum to AlQuaeda leaders.

No, i didnt say anything about 911 and Saddam, so dont go that route either.


The thought never even entered my mind.

By the way, Iraq broke UN resolution after UN Resolution, and in the year 1998, BILL CLINTON unloaded our arsenal of cruise missles on iraqi targets. He also bombed a Sudanese aspirin factory that had links to UBL. Where are all the people saying Bill is a war monger or what a waste of money it was, or how many civilians died.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUOL...eature=related

[*Admin*]

Almost Jacked. Great post! However be prepared to have it closed any minute. I have posted a few threads citing negative facts about Obama, and not only were they locked, but erased. The powers that be on this board are pro-Obama.

Well, I hope that doesn't happen. I dont think I am breaking any rules. I am not bashing Obama as much as I am just trying to get people to see past the media's version of Obama. Plus, there is a good discussion taking place and I would hate for it to end.

VOTE McCAIN

All is good just no flaming each other and lets be adult about things... ALL are entitled to their opinions.... and to voice them... (In a calm and none abusive fashion....Please)

[Diary of a Mad-man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUOL...eature=related

DO I NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH AN ALUMINUM TUBE?!?!? Dave is the man.

[VeraDeMilo]

true, but the mod who closes all the Obama lies threads is suspended at the moment.

flaming, however WILL end up getting this thread closed, so CAN it with a couple of you who did that.

Interesting. I was wondering how this one managed to stay open this long, lol.

[VeraDeMilo]

All is good just no flaming each other and lets be adult about things... ALL are entitled to their opinions.... and to voice them... (In a calm and none abusive fashion....Please)

Thank You

[VeraDeMilo]

Here are a few comments from Obama himself that left me a little disturbed. He has two books out now. "Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope".


Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'


Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

[Almost Jacked 33]

Good discussion going here. I will be back on later when I have time to comment.

[spywizard]

Here are a few comments from Obama himself that left me a little disturbed. He has two books out now. "Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope".


Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'


Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

I find him to be so racist, so polarized and seeking to advance a position i do not support that i am at a loss..

McCain won't win at this point, however, all my stocks are sold.. 401 is liquid via an llc, and purchased Gold.. I'ts safe, just never you mind where it's at.

I'll sit tight for the next 6 years, take a fed job, and keep one small cash company going..

that's the plan to survive at this point.. buy guns and gold.. never register either..

[novastepp]

I find him to be so racist, so polarized and seeking to advance a position i do not support that i am at a loss..

McCain won't win at this point, however, all my stocks are sold.. 401 is liquid via an llc, and purchased Gold.. I'ts safe, just never you mind where it's at.

I'll sit tight for the next 6 years, take a fed job, and keep one small cash company going..

that's the plan to survive at this point.. buy guns and gold.. never register either..

in all seriousness. i feel the same way.

[SMCengineer]

I find him to be so racist, so polarized and seeking to advance a position i do not support that i am at a loss..

McCain won't win at this point, however, all my stocks are sold.. 401 is liquid via an llc, and purchased Gold.. I'ts safe, just never you mind where it's at.

I'll sit tight for the next 6 years, take a fed job, and keep one small cash company going..

that's the plan to survive at this point.. buy guns and gold.. never register either..

Can I work for you?

[Tock]

Originally Posted by Tock
Or vice president.

yea, the country has been destroyed in the past all the times the VP has to run the country..

Perhaps you haven't heard about this little tid-bit of info . . . Shows how our current lying VP got the Republican House Majority Leader (Dick Armey) to change his vote in favor of the war. If it wasn't for that, then the US probably wouldn't have started up this needless war in Iraq . . .

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4927995.story

Former GOP House leader says Cheney misled him on Iraq




The vice president told Dick Armey, who in 2002 spoke against going to war, that Saddam Hussein had direct ties to Al Qaeda and would soon have a suitcase nuclear weapon, a new book says.

From the Washington Post
September 16, 2008


WASHINGTON -- A GOP congressional leader who was wavering on giving President Bush the authority to wage war in late 2002 said Vice President Dick Cheney misled him by saying that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had direct personal ties to Al Qaeda terrorists and was making rapid progress toward a suitcase nuclear weapon, according to a new book by Washington Post reporter Barton Gellman.

Cheney's accusations, described by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas, came in a classified one-on-one briefing in the vice president's office in the Capitol.



The threat Cheney described went far beyond public statements that have been criticized for relying on "cherry-picked" intelligence of unknown reliability. There was no intelligence to support the vice president's private assertions, Gellman reports.

Armey had spoken out against the coming war, and his opposition gave cover to Democrats who feared the political costs of appearing weak. Armey reversed his position after Cheney told him, he said, that the threat from Iraq was "more imminent than we want to portray to the public at large."

Cheney said, according to Armey, that Iraq's "ability to miniaturize weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear," had been "substantially refined since the first Gulf War."


Cheney linked that threat to Hussein's alleged ties to Al Qaeda, Armey said, explaining "we now know they have the ability to develop these weapons in a very portable fashion, and they have a delivery system in their relationship with organizations such as Al Qaeda."

"Did Dick Cheney . . . purposely tell me things he knew to be untrue?" Armey said. "I seriously feel that may be the case. . . . Had I known or believed then what I believe now, I would have publicly opposed [the war] resolution right to the bitter end."
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Vice Presidents are getting more influential, and for god's sake, why would we have a goober governor from Alaska who has presided over a state with a smaller population than the city of Baltimore (that's in Maryland, btw)? WTF is wrong with McCain? Aren't there female Republicans with more experience than Palin? Two that come to mind are the women senators from Maine (Olympia Snow) and and Texas (Hutchinson).

Lordy lordy lordy . . .

Nevertheless, anyone will be an improvement over Cheney . . .

[Hoggage_54]

[Kratos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t4gl...eature=related

[hugovsilva]

I am not american but I would vote Obama for this single reason:

"Palin is only a melanoma away from being the US president".

[Lemonada8]

Great original post! however, i wish to show this to soem people and dont realy want them to know that i use gear, so is there a website where these are posted?

[Tock]

Great original post! however, i wish to show this to soem people and dont realy want them to know that i use gear, so is there a website where these are posted?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4927995.story

Former GOP House leader says Cheney misled him on Iraq

[green22]

Almostjacked, I hate to say this but Obama is going to win. you are wasting your time.

[Almost Jacked 33]

Almostjacked, I hate to say this but Obama is going to win. you are wasting your time.

I guess you one of those people that believe everything that comes out of the media's mouth. The media has always pushed for the democrats. I think you will be very suprised when voting starts and the polls come out. I wouldnt even believe what the early voting polls say either. Obama will not be our next president.

[HORSE~]

I guess you one of those people that believe everything that comes out of the media's mouth. The media has always pushed for the democrats. I think you will be very suprised when voting starts and the polls come out. I wouldnt even believe what the early voting polls say either. Obama will not be our next president.

This is political as I care to get on this site but I sure as hell hope your right about that!!!!!!!!

[Almost Jacked 33]

This is political as I care to get on this site but I sure as hell hope your right about that!!!!!!!!

I know what you mean. I sure hope Im right too. lol

[B.E.N.]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4927995.story

Former GOP House leader says Cheney misled him on Iraq

That's funny because Biden is quoted as saying he agreed with everything about Iraq...right down to WMDs.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...n-saddams.html

[Kratos]

That's funny because Biden is quoted as saying he agreed with everything about Iraq...right down to WMDs.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...n-saddams.html

his hands are far from clean when it comes to the war in iraq

look up all the ways he pushed the war

the guy loves using our military to intervene and try to stabilize the politics of the world. He already has other 3rd world regions he can't wait to get involved in...who needs to finish what we started in Iraq and ensure stability when we can start a new campain?

[B.E.N.]

his hands are far from clean when it comes to the war in iraq

look up all the ways he pushed the war

the guy loves using our military to intervene and try to stabilize the politics of the world. He already has other 3rd world regions he can't wait to get involved in...who needs to finish what we started in Iraq and ensure stability when we can start a new campain?

Which 'guy' are you refering to? Cheney or Biden?

The point of my post was the Democrats are now trying to throw the Iraq mess on the Republicans when some Democrats were vocal supporters of the initial invasion. Now it's time to vote, so they want to hand the grenade off and cover.

Damn it would be nice if they would all quit throwing mud and just tell us about what they have planned.

[Kratos]

Which 'guy' are you refering to? Cheney or Biden?

.

sry Biden, I took my contacts out to rest my eyes, can barely see the screen.

[BgMc31]

Here are a few comments from Obama himself that left me a little disturbed. He has two books out now. "Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope".


Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'


Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Since I'm staring at both books right now, please provide page numbers to back up your 'facts'. Especially the last quote from 'Audacity of Hope'. I'm not even going to go into his so-called racism, that doesn't exist.

As far as the supposed 100 lies, where did you get your facts because all the smear you've posted has already been refuted by the Obama campaign as well as independent sources.

It all boils down to the fact that Barack is pulling ahead and whining conservatives and right-wing bigots will do anything and say anything in an attempt to defame Obama. Sad!

[B.E.N.]

It all boils down to the fact that Barack is pulling ahead and whining conservatives and right-wing bigots will do anything and say anything in an attempt to defame Obama. Sad!

Yeah...liberals/Democrats don't do that. Take another toke...

[BgMc31]

^^you don't seriously believe there has been any republican that has been the focus of as many lies or smear as Obama do you? Obama is the most criticized and lied about presidential candidate in history. There is no denying that!

[Voland]

I'm not american, and i couldn't care less who wins. I wouldn't vote if i had the right. I fact i don't vote in Spain either cos all suck.
But i just want the election to be done so i don't have to listen anymore to the US election in OUR news everyday since months ago.

[B.E.N.]

^^you don't seriously believe there has been any republican that has been the focus of as many lies or smear as Obama do you? Obama is the most criticized and lied about presidential candidate in history. There is no denying that!

Ahhh...so now there are degrees of 'smearing'???? Kind of like 'he started it' in 5th grade. Nice.

[spywizard]

No, the reason I want them to bring back the troops is because I find it pointless and I think the USA should focus on its on problems instead of problems of other countries. Stop invading other countries territory and focus on your own stuff for a change. I think the USA isn't in a position anymore to play the World Police.

And I think I should add that I have nothing against USA.

so you support being an isolationist?? screw everyone else??

that's not what the Democratic party supports.. sorry.. get down now..

[spywizard]

Since I'm staring at both books right now, please provide page numbers to back up your 'facts'. Especially the last quote from 'Audacity of Hope'. I'm not even going to go into his so-called racism, that doesn't exist.

As far as the supposed 100 lies, where did you get your facts because all the smear you've posted has already been refuted by the Obama campaign as well as independent sources.

It all boils down to the fact that Barack is pulling ahead and whining conservatives and right-wing bigots will do anything and say anything in an attempt to defame Obama. Sad!

careful.. i haven't met a dem yet that wasn't a bigot..

A bigot (in modern usage) is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different ethnicity, race, or class

[BgMc31]

^^and I've yet to meet a republican who wasn't one either...now see how absurd that sounds?

So why should I be careful? And are you calling me a bigot because I disagree with someone lying in order to prop up 'their' candidate?

[Almost Jacked 33]

^^you don't seriously believe there has been any republican that has been the focus of as many lies or smear as Obama do you? Obama is the most criticized and lied about presidential candidate in history. There is no denying that!

Obama shouldnt even be considered a presidental candidate. He is a celebrity that has been created by the media. How is he being lied about? What do you think is a lie? People deserve to know the truth about him, especially with his history.

[VeraDeMilo]

Since I'm staring at both books right now, please provide page numbers to back up your 'facts'. Especially the last quote from 'Audacity of Hope'. I'm not even going to go into his so-called racism, that doesn't exist.

Please see pages p.xv, 101, 142, 220 of "Dreams From My Father"

Please see page 261 of "The Audacity of Hope"


It doesn't help to stare at the covers, you actually have to open them up and read the pages between them.

(And weather you now want to argue that they were taken out of context, point is, they were still said by Obama.)

[VeraDeMilo]

interesting...

[spywizard]

^^and I've yet to meet a republican who wasn't one either...now see how absurd that sounds?

So why should I be careful? And are you calling me a bigot because I disagree with someone lying in order to prop up 'their' candidate?

Yes, your statements met the definition of a bigot exactly..

I don't call people names, i simply state the obvious, when a person is intolerant of others then that is exactly what that person's statements prove them to be..

[IronReload04]

obama shouldnt even be considered a presidental candidate. He is a celebrity that has been created by the media. How is he being lied about? What do you think is a lie? People deserve to know the truth about him, especially with his history.

palin palin palin

[Almost Jacked 33]

interesting...

Yea that is pretty sad.