Teach me how to fight...

**TRT,MAN** · 05-19-2009, 09:53 PM

anybody ever herd of mutual combat. or self defense. you dont go to jail just cause some guy started shit with you, and theres witnesses.

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-19-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

dude your middle eastern.. close your eyes and swing away, your persian luck will back you up... lololololol

what are ur stats bro??

im 6'4 275lbs... people dont come up to me "challenging" me... kinda wish they would.. lmao

your 6feet tall bro.. stomp away.. (and take some boxing/jiu-jitsu, i did it for about 5 years now, good stuff)

LOL being a Persian warrior only gets you so far in life.

My stats right now are 6'1 225 9-10% bf, I just got off tren so I leaned up alot, but for my age I think I am pretty good considering I was 134lbs only five years ago.

Like I said I am not a Persian Xerxes like your as jamy a freaking 6'4 275 mothatrucker

Originally Posted by Hazard

i know exactly what your talkin about...... in one night at a club near me a guy tried to fight me on the dance floor cuz i had 3 girls around me...... i put my beer down and was ready just incase. Told him if he felt lucky..... go ahead. Some girl shoved him LOL and pushed him off the floor.

then leaving the club (same night) i was walking to my car with my 2 friends and a honda hatchback drives across our path - maybe 40 feet away - and a kid screams "I'll kick you fvckin ass right here *sshole" then he drove off LMAO!

I'm not violent by nature either.... i don't go looking for trouble..... it just seems like guys with beer muscles feel like they have something to prove. I've taken jiu-jitsu..... i've taken muay thai..... trained for years...... i've got NOTHING to proove..... just have a good time. MMA is great to know just in case..... that just my opinion.

~Haz~

Yeah I mean I can take punches, I mean my workouts are HELL so much so that unless someone punches me in my nose or kicks me in the balls I will get right back up. I mean the tendonitis I have in my forearms and the workouts I endure makes pain so numbing to me.

But the thing is, I don't drink alcohol so I don't get the "beer muscle" complex that these douchebags do and I always think to myself "Do I really want to start a fight with a drunk dude when I am compeltely sober?"

Luckily so far it hasn't come to that.

Originally Posted by jfalco

Seems to me like you already have the most important skill for defending yourself. You know how to avoid a fight.

If some guy has something to prove, walk away and let him think he scared you off. Who cares. That as@hole will find someone else to fight and will probably be sleeping one off in jail, while you're sleeping in your bed.

True, true, its just I as a kid flinched alot and even today I flinch if some raises their hand to quickly. It's because (believe it or not) as a kid my mom would hit me alot to punish me and usually I wouldn't see it coming so now my mind is always on the defensive.

Originally Posted by fit4ever

Man, don't confuse being a sissy inside with being smart and having a good heart. My advice? Soften your pride and focus on what truly matters in life. Those other worries will subside. Because worrying is attempting to control the uncontrollable.

Yeah, I am a pretty self-conscious person and usually I do ignore fights unless I am backed into a corner hence why I have never gotten into a fight and also I am not the type of person you would fight like I am not a ignorant prick that pisses people off, generally I am nice and charasmatic guy so you really have to be a prick or piss me off for me to get angry.

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

Keep your gaurd up at the bar and I can assure you 99% of the people cant fight either. Ive worked through college as a bouncer. Number one punch is the right hand hay maker. Drunks love to try to go for a KO punch. Easy to step aside and then proceed with chokes, armbars, whatever you need to do.

Keeping your gaurd up is paramount, people usually dont go to clubs alone. This means whoever's ass your kicking is gonna be there with "his boys". So you MUST know what is behind you at all times and do things fast.

Yeah my roommate is one of those people who had "anger manangment" problems and the dude would bunch walls and anything else when he got angry and he and his friends would get into at least 1 or 2 fights a month with people at bars or somewhere. Yet almost every fight I heard him tell me about he usually would punch the kid during the "confrontation" and that would be the knockout punch or it would be the beginning and become a brawl.

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

Probably the easiest style of MMA to learn, and be able to kick ass right away is Okinawan Goju Ryu. I'll tell you some basics, that I live by (I'm a bouncer). Deception is the greatest weapon you could ever use. So always keep your hands up around your chest level to protect yourself, but keeps your fists/palms open so that you look nonthreatening. Never lock your knees, EVER! If you are right footed, you should have your right foot about 1 - 1 1/2 feet behind your left foot, and have both knees slightly bent. This foot placement is for optimal balance, and to protect your knees from someone who knows how to break them. Another rule: "I didn't start the fight, so I don't fight fair." Nothing is off limits. Ears, balls, trachea, etc. "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6." I'm assuming that as of now, you don't know any blocking moves, so you need to always strike first, especially if the situation looks very threatening. The greatest thing you can do in a threatening situation is keep your palms in a non-threatening manner at chest level, say "hey I dont want no trouble," and then use your left hand to quickly pop them in the face (do this to yourself, and you will know that this is much more stunning than it sounds). This will buy you about a second or two, which is a lot in a fight, and give you a window to follow up with a kick to the pelvis, kick to the knee (you should raise your foot as high as you can and stomp down just above their kneecap), or punch to the side of the face (never the front, because it is too bloody, and you need to be careful, because the guy you are fighting may have AIDS or hepatitis, etc). Remember that with each kick, knee, or punch, you need to hit as hard as you possibly can, and imagine doing serious damage to them. If you can avoid a fight, then do so by all means, but if you can't, then you need to be fully committed. NEVER punch or kick them, and wait for their reaction. You need to strike, and strike, and strike, until you know they are no longer a threat, or you can get away. I hope this helps. Remember: better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6. "I didn't start the fight, so I'm not fighting fair." Need anything else?

Very good advice, like I said man I probably can take alot of punches and still be able to come back at you with a veganance just for the shear fact that I have been through so much pain and anguish in my workouts and injuries that a punch or two while adrenaline is pumping in my system won't hurt.

The problem is like I said earlier I flinch alot so quick movements would make me flinch and I wouldn't pick up on the difference between a fake swing and the real one. It all comes back to when I was a kid, I got hit alot by mom (not like abused or anything) and as I got older it was my brain's natural response.

I have been walking and someone would quickly raise there arm next to me and I would flinch thinking they were getting ready to swing when in reality they were scratching their arm or something haha

**powerliftmike** · 05-19-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

Holy crap! That cat looks JUST LIKE Mickey the old trainer from Rocky. Look at the fvcking face hes making!! identical..

Come on Rock!

**vpchill** · 05-20-2009, 05:44 AM

Damn lucky you Immortal. Never getting into a fight? If you havent now, then you probly wont. Otherwise you can call me up. 27-0 15ko. I like to fight!
lol
Nah, but wutever your doing keep doing it. Who needs to fight? Ive gotten plenty of scars on this gorgeous face. The next day you just realize it was a waste of time.

**fit4ever** · 05-20-2009, 06:43 AM

Maybe you should revisit where you hang out and who you hang out with if you're finding yourself in these types of predicaments all too often.

**Mooseman33** · 05-20-2009, 08:14 AM

go take some mma classes..always error on the side of caution....
always be prepared my friend, hopefully you will never need it but atleast you will know what to do when the time comes.
some shit is unavoidable, some times you cant walk away...
i mean how many cary guns on the board, i do, and pray i will never need it, but dont want to be stuck without...

**chuckt12345** · 05-20-2009, 09:54 AM

yea assault and battery charges are awesome, trust me goin to jail for fighting is stupid, ive been there.

**bushido3374** · 05-20-2009, 09:55 AM

I agree with Murilo Ninja that training is a good idea and will also give you less to worry about/ prove.

MMA is the best approach. Boxing/ Muay Thai are the best striking forms. Even though you don't want to take a bar/street fight to the ground, you'll want to be able to defend and get back up if you're taken down anyway.

Being big/strong and knowing even some basics will be a solid combination. Even a year and a half worth of training MMA a couple days a week will give you enough confidence and skill to go out without feeling self conscious.

**Nicotine** · 05-20-2009, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

Take Sust.

sh1t, you stole my reply

take a legit marital art that requires discipline....... it's not just the physical aspect....

**jamyjamjr** · 05-20-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by vpchill

Damn lucky you Immortal. Never getting into a fight? If you havent now, then you probly wont. Otherwise you can call me up. 27-0 15ko. I like to fight!
lol
Nah, but wutever your doing keep doing it. Who needs to fight? Ive gotten plenty of scars on this gorgeous face. The next day you just realize it was a waste of time.

19-1 14ko's, the rest submissions... what weight class r u??

**bushido3374** · 05-20-2009, 06:42 PM

27-0? That seems pretty high even by UFC standards.

**CSAR** · 05-20-2009, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by bushido3374

27-0? That seems pretty high even by UFC standards.

Psshhhttt...PrideFedor was like 1,000,000-0 with 999,999 KO's. The one fight he didn't win by KO was the time he fought Chuck Norris and won a 50 round unanimous decision.

**jbm** · 05-20-2009, 07:49 PM

I got 32-0 32 ko's! Crispy weight here... 2 time KFC champion!!!!!!!!!!

**JiGGaMaN** · 05-20-2009, 08:01 PM

ive been in some intense street fights. honest to god truth, drugs that are strong inducers of aggression or psychosis will win you the fight every time. if you are up against someone on meth or speed, you're pretty much done.
first things first:
(1) scream ****ed up shit as loud as you can, whilst punching as hard as you can.

(2) you always throw the first punch. if its heading that road, you best let them know you dont **** around

(3) Parry around them and aim for the same spot each time, right handed go for their left eye till they drop.

its generally pretty easy especially since most of us dont drink. going up against someone whos mildly intoxicated, parrying and screaming is enough for even someone with no experience to drop someone twice their size.

**bushido3374** · 05-20-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by CSAR

Psshhhttt...PrideFedor was like 1,000,000-0 with 999,999 KO's. The one fight he didn't win by KO was the time he fought Chuck Norris and won a 50 round unanimous decision.

That's what I'm talking about. Even Fedor doesn't boast that kind of pro record, does he?

I only fought amateur and was 3-5 with a couple of really bad ref calls (premature stoppage and failure to stop for eye gouge recovery). I'm mediocre, nothing to brag about.

**collar** · 05-20-2009, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by CSAR

Psshhhttt...PrideFedor was like 1,000,000-0 with 999,999 KO's. The one fight he didn't win by KO was the time he fought Chuck Norris and won a 50 round unanimous decision.

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

**CSAR** · 05-20-2009, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by bushido3374

That's what I'm talking about. Even Fedor doesn't boast that kind of pro record, does he?

I only fought amateur and was 3-5 with a couple of really bad ref calls (premature stoppage and failure to stop for eye gouge recovery). I'm mediocre, nothing to brag about.

Actually, I don't know about the real Fedor's record (although I enjoy watching his fights), but there used to be a member here whose handle was PrideFedor. I was just busting his balls a little.

**Akrobatik** · 05-21-2009, 12:51 AM

**amcon** · 05-21-2009, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by ni4ni

fuvk it->not worth cops, jail, law suit etc...JMHO

yep just tell them you have registered and deadly killer hands and cant take the risk he is a wuss, you might kill him

and walk away

**amcon** · 05-21-2009, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Akrobatik

lollollololol thats funny

**jbm** · 05-21-2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by amcon

lollollololol thats funny

Where? can't see the pic...

**JimInAK** · 05-21-2009, 05:43 AM

Martial arts training can be very effective and can really change your life. In a very few lessons, you will learn how to stand, how to breathe, how to punch and how to defend yourself from an aggressor's moves.

I have always valued the training I received many years ago. The confidence gained can change your life and can make you a better person. Just a few lessons can give you enough, so that you can build on that with exercize and simple practice.

If a person puts a hand on me, I am confident that I can take them down, if I choose. However, if they scare me I might hurt them, cause I certainly don't want to be hurt. It's amazing what a little knowledge can do and most people don't have a clue.

**JiGGaMaN** · 05-21-2009, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by JimInAK

Martial arts training can be very effective and can really change your life. In a very few lessons, you will learn how to stand, how to breathe, how to punch and how to defend yourself from an aggressor's moves.

I have always valued the training I received many years ago. The confidence gained can change your life and can make you a better person. Just a few lessons can give you enough, so that you can build on that with exercize and simple practice.

If a person puts a hand on me, I am confident that I can take them down, if I choose. However, if they scare me I might hurt them, cause I certainly don't want to be hurt. It's amazing what a little knowledge can do and most people don't have a clue.

bullshit. the average karate student only thinks he knows how to defend himself. it takes real experience and a few ass whoopings to actually know how to fight.

**Immortal Soldier** · 05-24-2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

ive been in some intense street fights. honest to god truth, drugs that are strong inducers of aggression or psychosis will win you the fight every time. if you are up against someone on meth or speed, you're pretty much done.
first things first:
(1) scream ****ed up shit as loud as you can, whilst punching as hard as you can.

(2) you always throw the first punch. if its heading that road, you best let them know you dont **** around

(3) Parry around them and aim for the same spot each time, right handed go for their left eye till they drop.

its generally pretty easy especially since most of us dont drink. going up against someone whos mildly intoxicated, parrying and screaming is enough for even someone with no experience to drop someone twice their size.

Jigga I am not going to take PCP and lose my inhibition and end up killing the dude ripping out his heart and eating it (I swear there have been cases of this happening on PCP).

But the whole "Yell ****ed stuff while punching" seems funny

"I am going to rape your mother" *punch*

"without a condom" *punch*

**Hunter** · 05-24-2009, 08:54 PM

I fought fedor and Rickson at the same time. I armbarred them both........twice.

**JiGGaMaN** · 05-24-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Jigga I am not going to take PCP and lose my inhibition and end up killing the dude ripping out his heart and eating it (I swear there have been cases of this happening on PCP).

But the whole "Yell ****ed stuff while punching" seems funny

"I am going to rape your mother" *punch*

"without a condom" *punch*

well with pcp you are generally naked, but theres a good youtube video the naked dude punches through a fence rather than hoping over it.

as for the screaming part, i dunno if id say that. it would be more along the lines of "YOU THINK YOU'RE TOUGH SHIT MOTHER****ER???" swing away.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 05-24-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Jigga I am not going to take PCP and lose my inhibition and end up killing the dude ripping out his heart and eating it (I swear there have been cases of this happening on PCP).

But the whole "Yell ****ed stuff while punching" seems funny

"I am going to rape your mother" *punch*

"without a condom" *punch*

as long as you don't start the fight that way, go for it. if you start yelling shit before the fight starts then you have already given away your intentions of fighting, and you are giving the other guy a reason to punch you first.

**jbm** · 05-24-2009, 10:56 PM

**Hack da Squat** · 05-25-2009, 02:03 AM

Ye fighting isn't good blah blah but hey shit does happin an when it does what are you gona do? Mate you got the size an streanth all you have to do is grab an choke, just have faith in yourself and be confident someone wants to start something make him your bitch for evin trying

**Hack da Squat** · 05-25-2009, 02:11 AM

Best thing for practice is sparring with a mate start slow and then as your confidence gets up go heavier an heavier that way you no the fight isnt gona go to far you wont get to hurt depending on how hard you go seriosly try this evriday for a week and i bet yourl be walking round a bit taller

**CSAR** · 05-25-2009, 06:18 AM

Spelling/grammar checker....burning....up....must....log off....now....

Originally Posted by Hack da Squat

Best thing for practice is sparring with a mate start slow and then as your confidence gets up go heavier an heavier that way you no the fight isnt gona go to far you wont get to hurt depending on how hard you go seriosly try this evriday for a week and i bet yourl be walking round a bit taller