Are "ideal" abs simply genetic?

**J-Dogg** · 06-21-2009, 05:19 PM

I work my ass off to get to where I am, and I'm pretty proud of where I've been, and what I am now.

Not just my body,but mind and career also.

I'm maintaining between 205 and 210lbs, at 6' and I've got no fat on my body but a small pouch in my central ab area.

Shoulders are vascular, even lower abs have veins, but my abs are not real defined. I obviously carry my fat there.

Diets in check, high protein, only complex carbs, lower, as low as fat as possible, but I get my omeagas. I probably cardio too much, I'm running every day, some times twice a day, but I'm holding my size just fine doing it. Weight training 5-6 days a week using HIT training.

My abs just are not real defined, I'm not neglecting them.

Seems some guys are just blessed with that nice squared off chest,and a defined core. I know, 2 of you are reading this right now, and I just want you to know, I hate you!!

**DSM4Life** · 06-21-2009, 05:23 PM

I am the same way. I can't really pinch fat on my chest, none on my legs but i could get a f**king fist full around my stomach !

**J-Dogg** · 06-21-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life;470***6

I am the same way. I can't really pinch fat on my chest, none on my legs but i could get a f**king fist full around my stomach !

How are we ever going to get any guys with out a 6pack bro?

But, exactly, lets just keep hatin on these genetically gifted bros.

My next plan is:
600mgs test prop
400mgs mast prop
80mgs tbol

Going to do a lot of ab work, keep the cardio up, and if that don't work, I give up and opting for lipo

**DSM4Life** · 06-21-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

How are we ever going to get any guys with out a 6pack bro?

But, exactly, lets just keep hatin on these genetically gifted bros.

My next plan is:
600mgs test prop
400mgs mast prop
80mgs tbol

Going to do a lot of ab work, keep the cardio up, and if that don't work, I give up and opting for lipo

Honestly i gave up on them already. I had them once but i was at 155 and i felt like $hit. Will never do that again. So the 6'er i have given up on, now i just try to work on other areas while keeping the fact on my stomach to a min.

**ph34rsh4ck** · 06-21-2009, 05:54 PM

**Nicotine** · 06-21-2009, 05:59 PM

genetics makes things easier for some.

my shoulders and traps dominate a lot of people who have been training 3x longer than i have at my gym.....

but there are people who have THE stomach, but my back and shoulders are far better.

genetics determines a LOT of things.....

**swol_je** · 06-21-2009, 06:11 PM

I can see my abs, but my fats in my ass. I hate it

**J-Dogg** · 06-21-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by swol_je

I can see my abs, but my fats in my ass. I hate it

Trade?

**DSM4Life** · 06-21-2009, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by swol_je

I can see my abs, but my fats in my ass. I hate it

Can we see some pics ?

**Tesla** · 06-21-2009, 06:29 PM

**stack_it** · 06-21-2009, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tesla

The guys just flexing in the second pic. My abs don't show unless I flex. The more like the art of photography than it is an art of sculpting.

**jbm** · 06-21-2009, 07:21 PM

**jbm** · 06-21-2009, 07:22 PM

**jbm** · 06-21-2009, 07:23 PM

**jbm** · 06-21-2009, 07:24 PM

**CBGB** · 06-21-2009, 07:30 PM

You may be on to something, I'm giving up on a dry pack. Never had more than two showing.

**Deltasaurus** · 06-21-2009, 07:42 PM

im almost there not giving up

**ph34rsh4ck** · 06-21-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by A2thej2008

im almost there not giving up

**_CrossroadS_** · 06-21-2009, 09:52 PM

treat em just like any other muscle. They are overrated though...I've found that my "abs" look better the more core exercises I do, and the less ab exercises I do. They get worked once a week just like any other muscle, and then I do a lot of exersizes to work my entire core.

**jbm** · 06-22-2009, 04:03 AM

**Voland** · 06-22-2009, 04:44 AM

**DSM4Life** · 06-22-2009, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by jbm

Girl has some stubble issues.

**Flex Columbo** · 06-22-2009, 05:33 AM

abs are definatly atleast 3 parts genetic but you can still sculpt them , they are a muscle and they can grow i here they can give you fake abs anyway

**soulstealer** · 06-22-2009, 05:38 AM

This conversation is nutz.... those blessed with these attributes are those that workout and have naturally fast metabolisms lol.... anyone can get ****** abs if they do it right...

**vpchill** · 06-22-2009, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by soulstealer

This conversation is nutz.... those blessed with these attributes are those that workout and have naturally fast metabolisms lol.... anyone can get ****** abs if they do it right...

Id have to agree with this, My abs were shredded at 190lbs. I did abs 5 times a week. Now Im 230 and I have a pouch. I started doing 5 times a week again and am already noticing a signifigant change. Hard work, thats it.

**collar** · 06-22-2009, 06:37 AM

i just do them like 1 every week or every second week.
My diet brings them up nicely.

**DSM4Life** · 06-22-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by soulstealer

This conversation is nutz.... those blessed with these attributes are those that workout and have naturally fast metabolisms lol.... anyone can get ****** abs if they do it right...

I never said i can't get them i just seem to have to get my weight down too much to really see them. I am 170 now and most of my BF is around my stomach which blows.

**Matt** · 06-22-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life;470***6

I am the same way. I can't really pinch fat on my chest, none on my legs but i could get a f**king fist full around my stomach !

So your fat??

**Matt** · 06-22-2009, 06:05 PM

**Jenseno9** · 06-22-2009, 07:51 PM

I would look into the paleo diet and change your cardio to intense interval training. The paleolithic diet has a lot to do with food quality. Maybe your already doing this and then in that case I don't know?

**sizerp** · 06-22-2009, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

I work my ass off to get to where I am, and I'm pretty proud of where I've been, and what I am now.

Not just my body,but mind and career also.

I'm maintaining between 205 and 210lbs, at 6' and I've got no fat on my body but a small pouch in my central ab area.

Shoulders are vascular, even lower abs have veins, but my abs are not real defined. I obviously carry my fat there.

Diets in check, high protein, only complex carbs, lower, as low as fat as possible, but I get my omeagas. I probably cardio too much, I'm running every day, some times twice a day, but I'm holding my size just fine doing it. Weight training 5-6 days a week using HIT training.

My abs just are not real defined, I'm not neglecting them.

Seems some guys are just blessed with that nice squared off chest,and a defined core. I know, 2 of you are reading this right now, and I just want you to know, I hate you!!

Apart from genetics, there's always room for improvement in any individual. Just because you don't genetically have super abs, doesn't mean you can't adjust your diet and training to get where you want to be.

Try carb cycling for cutting, and HIIT like mentioned above - also I wouldn't drop your fats below 20-30% of your total kcal. Remember we need healthy o m e g a s - 6,3 for balanced cholesterol, balanced nutrient absorption and distribution, and balanced hormone levels (testosterone ).

I'd recommend you hit the diet section and post your macros for a cutting diet, if you're that'd concerned about a 6-pack!

**Tigershark** · 06-22-2009, 09:53 PM

I am really hoping to get my seix pack going. I can start to see them now but still have some work to do. It's a marathon and not a race.

**jbm** · 06-22-2009, 10:03 PM

**DSM4Life** · 06-22-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by jbm

repost

**Chitown Raider** · 06-22-2009, 10:09 PM

I have been focusing on the abs hitting them every other day. Cleaned up the diet, and got the 4 pack also. The love handles are gone but the hardest part seems to be the last row of abs.