Serious question about crying fits/depression on test..

[Bojangles69]

bojangles any history of recreational drug use? or presently using?

Nah, just some greenage a month back but nothing really besides that.

[DOM6]

Eat my balls you sad miserable excuse for a human being.

I will rape you, your wife, your dog, and spit on your face you scum. How was your pathetic ass not banned 10 years ago?

Go take your angry ass and club a baby seal low class scum pos mfkr
Its little bitches like you who spend their whole day getting made fun of and holding shit in untill their altered fvcking egos find a forum to dump all their shit on, which is all you ever do.

go bo

[Reed]

Surprised no one mentioned the cycle itself.

1.25mg of letro ed?? Your estro is in the ground right now. Estrogen is very beneficial during a cycle and is what helps us gain mass, too little or too much is where things go wrong

Low estrogen levels trigger the brain to release MAO an enzyme in the brain which destroys serotonin. Low serotonin levels are associated with depression. There is also research that shows the association of panic attacks with decreased levels of estro.

Low estro effects memory, can lower self esteem, low total cholesterol, joint pain swelling. I could go on but I think you get the idea now.

Adding 1.25mg of a extremely powerful AI like letro is just over the top, not needed, and frankly dangerous for ANYONE..... if you use it .25-.5mgs should be the maximum.

And I'd personally not recommend its use while on cycle, go with arimidex and you should wait till you start seeing signs (too much bloating, itchy nips, lethargy,etc) and start with .25mg of arimidex eod. A slight increase of estrogen is beneficial in a cycle but like I said you need to be in a certain range and right now your estrogen had to of crashed.

Try to stop the letro and see what happens....

[peachfuzz]

^I knew we kept you around for a reason

[*RAGE*]

eat my balls you sad miserable excuse for a human being.

I will rape you, your wife, your dog, and spit on your face you scum. How was your pathetic ass not banned 10 years ago?

Go take your angry ass and club a baby seal low class scum pos mfkr
its little bitches like you who spend their whole day getting made fun of and holding shit in untill their altered fvcking egos find a forum to dump all their shit on, which is all you ever do.

lmfao......

[DOM6]

fuvk you asshole kill your fuvking self dumb ass....at least we will not have to read you sorry ass post and your little winne ass...pu$$y....I film it so I can watch it on you tube...

Rule #4.
We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. If you post harrassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned. This includes PM's, we ask that all correspondence between members and/or staff be respectful. You don't always have to agree, but you do always have to show mutual respect.

i never even knew that til T-MOS MUST READ POST

[Bojangles69]

Surprised no one mentioned the cycle itself.

1.25mg of letro ed?? Your estro is in the ground right now. Estrogen is very beneficial during a cycle and is what helps us gain mass, too little or too much is where things go wrong

Low estrogen levels trigger the brain to release MAO an enzyme in the brain which destroys serotonin. Low serotonin levels are associated with depression. There is also research that shows the association of panic attacks with decreased levels of estro.

Low estro effects memory, can lower self esteem, low total cholesterol, joint pain swelling. I could go on but I think you get the idea now.

Adding 1.25mg of a extremely powerful AI like letro is just over the top, not needed, and frankly dangerous for ANYONE..... if you use it .25-.5mgs should be the maximum.

And I'd personally not recommend its use while on cycle, go with arimidex and you should wait till you start seeing signs (too much bloating, itchy nips, lethargy,etc) and start with .25mg of arimidex eod. A slight increase of estrogen is beneficial in a cycle but like I said you need to be in a certain range and right now your estrogen had to of crashed.

Try to stop the letro and see what happens....

Thats awesome, many thanks cause I wasn't aware of that at all. I'll do a quick taper and drop the letro for sure now.

[*RAGE*]

Rule #4.
We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. If you post harrassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned. This includes PM's, we ask that all correspondence between members and/or staff be respectful. You don't always have to agree, but you do always have to show mutual respect.

i never even knew that til T-MOS MUST READ POST

[DOM6]

Thats awesome, many thanks cause I wasn't aware of that at all. I'll do a quick taper and drop the letro for sure now.

i was going to say 1.25mg is too high but figured everyone would say, whats the newbee know, lol

[Reed]

^I knew we kept you around for a reason

I just stay so you and I can hijack threads and flame kids and post pics and do stupid shit all day

Thats awesome, many thanks cause I wasn't aware of that at all. I'll do a quick taper and drop the letro for sure now.

Yes taper and try to get you a SERM as well to avoid a potential rebound, just in case. I'm sure you have one on hand so start it. If its nolva 20mg ed will do...


I hope this helps so let me know as soon as you come off cause I'm willing to bet the cycle will go more smoothly now with gains on the gas pedal

[KatsMeow]

Thanks Reed for your insightful knowledge, it's about the only productive post that has come of this thread

[DOM6]

Hey, i said stop the letro 1st

[meathead320]

I prob should have posted this in the steroid forum I'm just too use to using the lounge I guess.

This is a serious question because today was my birthday and I basically wanted to kill myself.

My only previous cycle experience was with test enth (2 years ago roughly) that I wound up backing out of before it ever kicked in. (I decided it was too soon)
Well I started test prop 10 days ago and today is the second time this has happened.

On day 3 I was driving in my car and for unknown reasons I literally lost control and couldn't stop crying, I don't know why I was crying, I just know it literally felt like it was almost involuntary, I COULD NOT STOP no matter how hard I tried.
I was prob like that for a good 45mins trying to gain control over it.

I noticed I've been snappy and more aggressive lately and thats fine, I actually kinda of like it, but I also feel something happening that is kinda scaring me at this point.

Today, my birthday, I was driving to my folks house and it happened again. Nothing seems to trigger it, my eyes just start watering, I get depressed as fvck for no reason, and it seems to stop whenever it wants to.

Nothing like this has ever happened so it has to be the test (or letro).

But after today, I figured I need to post this here. I'm literally just starting to love what the test is doing.. but, I just can't deal with this one wierd side effect.
I have nothing in world to be depressed about, but during this second crying fit I wanted to off myself, its all I kept thinking about EVEN WHEN I know I have no reason to be that way.

My question, is this normal?
Will it go away? I'm doing 100mg prop EOD + 1.25 letro.

I though test was suppose to make you happy meanwhile I'm anything but happy. I told myself one more time and thats it, but I don't wanna stop because I've been preparing forever for this small little cycle.

Any thoughts or suggestions would really be welcome. I feel a bit cold and empty inside, even now, and I never feel like this.

Ok, just re-read this. I still think you are better off not on any of this is you have depression problems to begin with, but...

I see you are using prop.

In that case, you likely don't need any AI. Letro would drop your E2 levels down too much, and has been said here, estro too low can cause mental props, just like too high.

Prop has a short half life, and does not have as much time to aromatize into Estradiol, as it is out of your system so fast.

longer acting stuff like enth or cyp has a higher conversion, but even then I would not suggest using an AI unless you are having problems from the E2 getting too high.

For now though, my best advice is to stop what you are doing if you got issues to start with.