Obama's speech

**GuybrushThreepwod** · 09-09-2009, 09:26 PM

IMO, it's (Obama's plans) all a pre-cursor to a one world government. I hate government telling me what to do! When enough people wake up and realize what's going on, civil war will soon follow...

**Lemonada8** · 09-09-2009, 09:37 PM

thank god the democrats cant agree :-S lol

**sizerp** · 09-09-2009, 09:43 PM

Obama is a puppet. It's not his plan. It's the Bilderberg Group's plan. (Elite of the elite).

**MuscleScience** · 09-09-2009, 09:49 PM

I honestly dont believe either side on this issue. I am sure each side has truths, but both seem to be stretching the truth to make their respective point.

**thane222** · 09-10-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I honestly dont believe either side on this issue. I am sure each side has truths, but both seem to be stretching the truth to make their respective point.

well said

**Flagg** · 09-10-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I honestly dont believe either side on this issue. I am sure each side has truths, but both seem to be stretching the truth to make their respective point.

And in the mean time the Republican supporters will slate Obama, the Democrats will counter attack with previous Bush policy. And both sides are totally missing the bigger picture.

And that there is no difference between Pepsi and Coca Cola.

BG · 09-10-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

And in the mean time the Republican supporters will slate Obama, the Democrats will counter attack with previous Bush policy. And both sides are totally missing the bigger picture.

And that there is no difference between Pepsi and Coca Cola.

Perfect.

**BgMc31** · 09-10-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by yourmom

It just goes to show you, he doesn't even know whats in that bill. 'we wont cut Medicare'. That's not what the bill says. It wont add to the deficit, wrong. READ IT!.

Obama.... Our Big Ass Mistake America

Which bill are you referring to? Obama's own plan, or the multitude of bills being ironed out in both the senate and house? Please clarify with excerpts from the bill you are referring to please.

Originally Posted by Flagg

And in the mean time the Republican supporters will slate Obama, the Democrats will counter attack with previous Bush policy. And both sides are totally missing the bigger picture.

And that there is no difference between Pepsi and Coca Cola.

WORD IS BORN!!!

IN BOLD.

**Mooseman33** · 09-10-2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

And in the mean time the Republican supporters will slate Obama, the Democrats will counter attack with previous Bush policy. And both sides are totally missing the bigger picture.

And that there is no difference between Pepsi and Coca Cola.

attacking bush policy does nothing to help this country, it has no bearing and no nothing can come of it. it has been done.
attacking nobama while his policy will effect our country for years, and his spending will criple our grandchildren, is correct.

obama lied his ass off last night, that is fact.
and it was good to see him called pout for it.

**NMacFar** · 09-10-2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

attacking bush policy does nothing to help this country, it has no bearing and no nothing can come of it. it has been done.
attacking nobama while his policy will effect our country for years, and his spending will criple our grandchildren, is correct.

obama lied his ass off last night, that is fact.
and it was good to see him called pout for it.

I'm glad to see that my fellow Americans are realizing this.

This bill won't help illegal immigrants?! THATS A LIE, LIE, LIE!!!

He'll say and do anything to to get re-elected

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-10-2009, 02:59 PM

He talks a good game and he is such a likable rockstar.
But he is just taking America in the wrong direction, not that McCain would've done any better...so...the hell with it lol

**BgMc31** · 09-10-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by NMacFar

I'm glad to see that my fellow Americans are realizing this.

This bill won't help illegal immigrants?! THATS A LIE, LIE, LIE!!!

He'll say and do anything to to get re-elected

The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, and they could also buy into a new government-run insurance plan if Congress creates one. But unlike legal residents, they wouldn't get federal subsidies to help them. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States." Health care legislation in the Senate is also being crafted to exclude illegal immigrants from coverage.

**ni4ni** · 09-10-2009, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

I honestly dont believe either side on this issue. I am sure each side has truths, but both seem to be stretching the truth to make their respective point.

MS, soooooo true!!
Both sides are filled w/ bullshiit

**BgMc31** · 09-10-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by GuybrushThreepwod

IMO, it's (Obama's plans) all a pre-cursor to a one world government. I hate government telling me what to do! When enough people wake up and realize what's going on, civil war will soon follow...

While you are entitled to your opinion, I would like to know from where are do you draw this conclusion?

**GuybrushThreepwod** · 09-10-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

While you are entitled to your opinion, I would like to know from where are do you draw this conclusion?

No concrete evidence or proof, just a gut feeling. He wants to start making us do things. Forcing his agenda on us. It starts small with forcing health care on us. Next it will be gps in all our ID's and cars to aid with stopping crime. Next it will be random security checks, road blocks, phone taps etc... Next it will be joining forces with the UN or some other world wide organization (world banks?) to create a world wide currency, world wide law, world wide police. Next, forced GPS implants so monitoring everyone is possible. Soon after, a world wide dictator. Before you know it, freedom is gone and everyone is under "bondage". It's a slippery slope but you could see it happen.

Cameras are already everywhere. Red light cameras, ATM machine cameras, Freeways patrolled by invisible aircraft... The Patriot Act is going to kill us also. We have given the Government complete control. They just haven't acted on it yet.

Start stock piling guns, ammo, and canned food!

**james21** · 09-10-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by GuybrushThreepwod

No concrete evidence or proof, just a gut feeling. He wants to start making us do things. Forcing his agenda on us. It starts small with forcing health care on us. Next it will be gps in all our ID's and cars to aid with stopping crime. Next it will be random security checks, road blocks, phone taps etc... Next it will be joining forces with the UN or some other world wide organization (world banks?) to create a world wide currency, world wide law, world wide police. Next, forced GPS implants so monitoring everyone is possible. Soon after, a world wide dictator. Before you know it, freedom is gone and everyone is under "bondage". It's a slippery slope but you could see it happen.

Cameras are already everywhere. Red light cameras, ATM machine cameras, Freeways patrolled by invisible aircraft... The Patriot Act is going to kill us also. We have given the Government complete control. They just haven't acted on it yet.

Start stock piling guns, ammo, and canned food!

You sound like a Texas man! And we are stock piled.

**Mooseman33** · 09-10-2009, 11:17 AM

the only truth last night came from Joe Wilson..

Im glad someone called out Obama for his lies..

**NMacFar** · 09-10-2009, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

the only truth last night came from Joe Wilson..

Im glad someone called out Obama for his lies..

HAHAHAHA, me too!

**Bull_Nuts** · 09-11-2009, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

the only truth last night came from Joe Wilson..

Im glad someone called out Obama for his lies..

HELL frikin YEA

**yourmom** · 09-10-2009, 01:35 PM

It just goes to show you, he doesn't even know whats in that bill. 'we wont cut Medicare'. That's not what the bill says. It wont add to the deficit, wrong. READ IT!.

Obama.... Our Big Ass Mistake America

**yourmom** · 09-10-2009, 02:55 PM

AARP wesite:

HOW IT'S PAID FOR: Revenue-raisers include: $544 billion from a new income tax surcharge on single people making $280,000 a year and households making $350,000 and above; $37 billion in other tax adjustments. About $500 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid. About $200 billion from penalties paid by individuals and employers who don't obtain coverage. (who do YOU think that is?)

Read the bill hr3200:
http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Obama's bill:

Who knows what he was talking about. hr3200 or a bill he's writing.

IMO: look for this administration to be attacking the previous next week to try to put the spotlight elsewhere.

He's a great speaker thats for sure, I almost began to BELIEVE him. lol