12 dead at ft hood

**calgarian** · 11-06-2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

muslim

Terrorism has no religion thats all i gotta say it runs by greed and personal agenda.....

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 09:35 AM

99% of terrorist have a religion....nation of islam

**chuckt12345** · 11-06-2009, 09:39 AM

now its gonna cost the taxpayers fkn millions of dollars,, and im sure some liberal muslim group will lobby its all the us armed forces fault for stressing him out.

BG · 11-06-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

just another case of muslim violence, im not saying all muslims are terrorists, but 99% of all terrorists are muslim.
every major world conflict involves the nation of islam.

when do we stop blaming the people who follow the nation of islam and start blaming the nation of islam....

Wow one of the best post Ive read in here in a while !

**BgMc31** · 11-06-2009, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

Obama press conference yesterday was a joke. the man is no leader, he gave shout outs to people then 3 min. into the speech he brings up the shooting, he is a bum.

just another case of muslim violence, im not saying all muslims are terrorists, but 99% of all terrorists are muslim.
every major world conflict involves the nation of islam.

when do we stop blaming the people who follow the nation of islam and start blaming the nation of islam....

Please, in your enlightened wisdom, explain how the President should have handled it...

**BgMc31** · 11-06-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

99% of terrorist have a religion....nation of islam

FYI, the 'nation of Islam' is a separate group started in the United States by black activist. Are you referring to the Muslim faith? And which sect Sunni or Shia? 99% of all terrorists are Muslims? I would suggest checking the governments website of terrorist groups and you will see that you are quite wrong.

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Please, in your enlightened wisdom, explain how the President should have handled it...

i will go out on a limb here but laughing and throwing out shout outs at the beg was classless.

he should have began the conference with a strong message, which he did not.
again, took him 3 minutes to mention this...

do u really think his confernce was at all what u want from ur leader when something like this happens?

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

FYI, the 'nation of Islam' is a separate group started in the United States by black activist. Are you referring to the Muslim faith? And which sect Sunni or Shia? 99% of all terrorists are Muslims? I would suggest checking the governments website of terrorist groups and you will see that you are quite wrong.

check the govt. websites, are u kidding me. our govt is so PC they would never condem the filth that call themselves muslims out of fear of the backlash from so many muslim groups in our country.
like that scum group C.A.I.R.
maybe not all terrorists are muslim, i was wrong with that statement, however, 99% of terrorists attacks are coimmited by scum that follow the muslim faith..

so please with ur wisdom tell me how i am wrong

**Flagg** · 11-06-2009, 12:27 PM

Again, like the News thread version of this thread, people are just going round in circles.

"Muslims raarrrrgghh! Obama does nothing raarrrgghh!"

Do people WANT something done about this or do they want to complain about their prejustices?

Yes im against Political Correctness, I think its an oppression of free speach but playing the "liberal PC" card wont solve any of this.

Yeah everyone is angry, I was madder than Hell when earlier this week British soldiers went into what they thought was a safe Afghan police station only to be gunned down like dogs.

What do you all want to do? If kicking muslims out of the military, out of the West is what you want, i'd rather people were just honest about it.

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 12:31 PM

i will be the bad guy here, that is exactly what i want..

**BgMc31** · 11-06-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

i will go out on a limb here but laughing and throwing out shout outs at the beg was classless.

he should have began the conference with a strong message, which he did not.
again, took him 3 minutes to mention this...

do u really think his confernce was at all what u want from ur leader when something like this happens?

Shoulda, woulda, coulda...there are a hundred thousand ways he could have handled it, but since he can do no right in your eyes, it wouldn't have matter how he did it. What he did was just fine in my book.

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

check the govt. websites, are u kidding me. our govt is so PC they would never condem the filth that call themselves muslims out of fear of the backlash from so many muslim groups in our country.
like that scum group C.A.I.R.
maybe not all terrorists are muslim, i was wrong with that statement, however, 99% of terrorists attacks are coimmited by scum that follow the muslim faith..

so please with ur wisdom tell me how i am wrong

HMMMM let's see, Basque of Spain, PKK of Turkey, Maoists of Napal, Lord's of Resistance in Uganda, Columbian Narco Terrorist, Mexican drug cartels, Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka, Peruvian Shining Path. Not to mention domestic terrorists like KKK, Aryan Nation, Aryan Circle, Bloods and Crips, MS-13, etc.

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 12:51 PM

u forgot black panthers in ur domestic catagory..

**BgMc31** · 11-06-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

u forgot black panthers in ur domestic catagory..

I know you can read, Mooseman, but I did put etc., at the end of my statement but if you feel as though I unfairly pointed out white groups, here is an additional list of domestic terrorists groups to make you feel better: Jewish Defense League, Animal Liberation Front, Black Liberation Army, Army of God, Symbionese Liberation Army, Sea Shephard Conservation Society, ETC.!

Feel better now?

But you deflected from the original question...99% of terrorists attacks by Muslims?

Plus all evidence in this tragedy points to the fact that he acted alone and wasn't a terrorist. Now it was just reported that a guy named Jason Rodriquez walked into a building in Orlando and shot 8 people. Should we link him to MS-13, or a Narco Terrorist group because he's hispanic? According to your logic, we should!

**Mooseman33** · 11-06-2009, 01:09 PM

now i feel better....lol

and i will dig up research in a bit as im at work, however i stand by statement, but have to add another line, the attacks on the US here or overseas.

and of course ur ok with obama speech, u guy does no wrong in ur eyes...

good to see u around again man, missed ur debates...

**BgMc31** · 11-06-2009, 01:18 PM

I think what you mean to say Mooseman is the most horrific terrorists acts are committed by Muslim extremists. Many lesser acts don't make the mainstream media.

Good to be back brotha. I got real busy here. It's convention season in Vegas so this is the busiest time for bodyguards, believe it or not.

**Flagg** · 11-06-2009, 01:58 PM

I've been to Nepal so I can vouch for the Maoist terrorists there. In Kathmandu there's a curfew of no one out after 9pm or risk staring down the barrel of a machine gun which I did.

I think what Mooseman is saying BgMc, is that Muslim terrorists get the most exposure and media coverage, and you could argue, are the bigger threat out of the other ones you've posed to people living in North America or Europe. Animal Liberation Front, Black Panthers or the KKK aren't about to blow themselves up or start flying planes into the enemy.

I admire Moosemans honesty, I bet a lot of people have thought that we should just kick all muslims out, im certain he's not alone on this board and there have been times where i've thought the same. But emotions are running high, and acts like this, especially if "Allah Akbar" is involved will bring out the Nationalist in anyone.

The problem with Islam and especially in the Middle East, is that I just don't think it's evolved along with the rest of the world. Christians don't go on crusades, drown women with schitzophrenia or other mental illnesses. It's the 21st Century now, and it's alarming that a percentage of muslim men still think they can kill in the name of God, that heaven and 72 virgins are waiting....I mean it's not to believed, and no sane person should believe it.

If they don't want to embrace the coming of the times then fine. I say don't kick Muslims out of any Western country until they start a hate tirade. Then deport their asses back to whatever 3rd World shithole they came from. **** the freedom of "expression", by saying "death to the West" in a Western city is a threat in my opinion and should be dealt with, with zero tollerance.
And finally, we need to get the **** out the Middle East. Let those lunatics go batshit if they want. Stop sending them aid, stop sending them money, and let them go onto extinction because frankly, out of the three main religions, that looks like the one that will die first.

**chuckt12345** · 11-06-2009, 02:06 PM

BgMc31,, do you really think his speech yesterday was ok? Im interested in your thoughts because that was a horrible way to start out. And im pretty sure the rest of the nation agrees.

**Panzerfaust** · 11-06-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

BgMc31,, do you really think his speech yesterday was ok? Im interested in your thoughts because that was a horrible way to start out. And im pretty sure the rest of the nation agrees.

You really think the "nation" agrees? What do they know? They are the stupid ****s who voted for him, so ****ing deal with it.

**BgMc31** · 11-08-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

BgMc31,, do you really think his speech yesterday was ok? Im interested in your thoughts because that was a horrible way to start out. And im pretty sure the rest of the nation agrees.

If the nation agrees or disagrees, I don't know. I haven't seen any polls that show either way. I thought he could have said more, but I thought his response was good considering the limited information he had about the assailant.

Originally Posted by muriloninja

You really think the "nation" agrees? What do they know? They are the stupid ****s who voted for him, so ****ing deal with it.

Just because people don't feel the same as you doesn't make them stupid. I voted for him and I consider myself quite intelligent. And I would challenge you to prove otherwise.

**92notch** · 11-08-2009, 09:54 PM

Screw Obama! We should blame this on him Like the uneducated voters and Liberals blamed bush for 911. Reminds me of my favorite saying. "I'm all over that, like an uneducated voter on Obamas nuts.

**BgMc31** · 11-09-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by 92notch

Screw Obama! We should blame this on him Like the uneducated voters and Liberals blamed bush for 911. Reminds me of my favorite saying. "I'm all over that, like an uneducated voter on Obamas nuts.

Funny how you would say something as ignorant (not an insult, just meaning lack of knowledge on this particular subject) as that considering a large part of Obama's supporters were from college educated individuals...

**Dancer** · 11-09-2009, 02:32 PM

There aint dick jack shit that Obama could have done to prevent this.

As for the people that didnt get the warm fuzzy feeling inside when Obama spoke, well thats just to mofoen' bad.

Most are just not realistic...

UMMMMkkkay, Its Obama the "Majic Negro" he aint gonna just fix all the shit thats wrong in the world and make everyone have that warm fuzzy feelin' inside.

My politically incorrect post.

**Mooseman33** · 11-09-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by BgMc31

Funny how you would say something as ignorant (not an insult, just meaning lack of knowledge on this particular subject) as that considering a large part of Obama's supporters were from college educated individuals...

question for u big guy.
do u think obama gets elected without ACORN?

**BgMc31** · 11-09-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

question for u big guy.
do u think obama gets elected without ACORN?

Short answer is yes. Registering people to vote doesn't mean those people will show up to vote. Also the vast majority of those elicit registrations were thrown out after the vetting process. ACORN, IMO, had little effect on his election. Remember his largest (number-wise), supporters were young whites, not the target market of ACORN and other like groups.

**Mooseman33** · 11-09-2009, 03:10 PM

young whites were a target of acorn.

the un-educated were a target of acorn..

either way, thanks for the answer bro, i will PM u that info that we spoke about for work bro...

**BgMc31** · 11-09-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

young whites were a target of acorn.

the un-educated were a target of acorn..

either way, thanks for the answer bro, i will PM u that info that we spoke about for work bro...

Rural, and urban residence with limited resources were the target of ACORN. There are whites in that demographic as well. What I was saying is that the numbers that generated by ACORN weren't the catalyst in his victory.

Yeah, just let me know on that work issue and we'll figure something out.

**james21** · 11-09-2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

Obama press conference yesterday was a joke. the man is no leader, he gave shout outs to people then 3 min. into the speech he brings up the shooting, he is a bum.

just another case of muslim violence, im not saying all muslims are terrorists, but 99% of all terrorists are muslim.
every major world conflict involves the nation of islam.

when do we stop blaming the people who follow the nation of islam and start blaming the nation of islam....

BUMP! no shit, i did time as a Marine. I also live 40 mins from FT hood. SAD shit. This guy belongs in Guantanamo.......... tooo bad obama ****ed that up too.