California Vote to legalize marijuana

**jccnewbie** · 03-25-2010, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

no way.
unless california does something about the illegals, they will never get out of debt.
they are the biggest cluster fvk of a state...

Texas is just as bad if not worse with illegals. I have lived in both places.

**JDawg1536** · 03-25-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

no way.
unless california does something about the illegals, they will never get out of debt.
they are the biggest cluster fvk of a state...

So you're saying that by adding the cost of enforcing marijuana laws and the revenue that would be received from taxing it that it would not make a significant impact on the California debt?

**Hoggage_54** · 03-25-2010, 05:49 PM

It would be good for the pizza business

**Darksyde** · 03-26-2010, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

So you're saying that by adding the cost of enforcing marijuana laws and the revenue that would be received from taxing it that it would not make a significant impact on the California debt?

add to that how many people are in prison or the legal system for marijuana crimes

**clomid222** · 03-26-2010, 02:16 AM

Prices would go down if it were legal. I have many friends who grow out here in northern Cali many for dispensaries and they are against legalizing it out of fear that it will go down in price and they won't be able to sell it for as much.

**clomid222** · 03-26-2010, 02:20 AM

It's practically legal already, they hand out prescriptions like flyers around here. I went to a chiropractor twice for back pain and that qualified me to get a medicann card.

I can carry up to an ounce. I got a DUI last year and the CHP found it in my car and took it with me to jail. After I was released they had to give it back since I had a medicann card and that made it medicinal.

**clomid222** · 03-26-2010, 02:24 AM

BTW my DUI was for alcohol not weed. The CHP was more concerned about drinking and driving. They said they see drunk drivers kill people all the time, but rarely are stoned drivers involved in fatality crashes.

They tested me for alcohol and didn't even bother testing me for weed.

**Bojangles69** · 03-26-2010, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

you would have to be 21 to buy it.

I bet it would be harder for kids to get if it was legal.

When i was younger it was easier to get illegal stuff then alcohol

I hate to disagree bro but I think alcohol is like that just because of its size. I use to smoke when I was younger and had NO problems getting cigarettes when I was under 18.
I don't think legalizing it will make it harder to get at all. I really don't.

**clomid222** · 03-26-2010, 03:17 AM

The minimum age to get a medicinal card from a doctor in Cali is 18 not 21.

**energizer bunny** · 03-26-2010, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

I hate to disagree bro but I think alcohol is like that just because of its size. I use to smoke when I was younger and had NO problems getting cigarettes when I was under 18.
I don't think legalizing it will make it harder to get at all. I really don't.

honestly when i was 13 i could score within 15 mins, but to get cigs(not so much cigs because back then the leagal age was 16) or alcohol id be hanging around for hours at a time......

**JDawg1536** · 03-26-2010, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by clomid222

BTW my DUI was for alcohol not weed. The CHP was more concerned about drinking and driving. They said they see drunk drivers kill people all the time, but rarely are stoned drivers involved in fatality crashes.

They tested me for alcohol and didn't even bother testing me for weed.

How are they going to do that anyway?

**JDawg1536** · 03-26-2010, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bojangles69

I hate to disagree bro but I think alcohol is like that just because of its size. I use to smoke when I was younger and had NO problems getting cigarettes when I was under 18.
I don't think legalizing it will make it harder to get at all. I really don't.

It's much easier for kids to obtain marijuana than it is alcohol. Places that sell alcohol care if you aren't 21. Your local drug dealer doesn't care if you're 12 or 32. If you have $20, he'll give you some weed. If it's legalized it will be harder to get, no doubt.

**energizer bunny** · 03-26-2010, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

How are they going to do that anyway?

blood tests

**Mooseman33** · 03-26-2010, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

So you're saying that by adding the cost of enforcing marijuana laws and the revenue that would be received from taxing it that it would not make a significant impact on the California debt?

thats exactly what im saying.
they will find a way to give more to the illegals..

plus u have to take into account the money the system will lose in court fees /fines, probation costs for pot...

the criminal system will take a hit by this...

but fvk it, make the shit legal, i almost went to jail last night for a bud less then .5gram...
cop actually let me out of cuffs and gave me a break....

now im ready for it to be legal.....

**oldschoolfitness** · 03-26-2010, 08:59 AM

i agree with Mooseman got to do something about illegals it's costing taxpayers to much money! one problem with the maryjane U.S. GOVT. can and will screw up anything, but its a good idea.

**420daytona** · 03-26-2010, 11:43 AM

Under the legalization, they can tax you just for cultivation. Am I the only one who thinks thats fvcked up? You don't even have to be making income off the crop and yet they can still tax you for it. Not to mention the fact that you can only grow 25 square feet of marijuana at a time. That might sound like a lot but if smoke as much as I do, you aren't gonna be producing enough to sell. Somethings wrong.

**gixxerboy1** · 03-26-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by 420daytona

Under the legalization, they can tax you just for cultivation. Am I the only one who thinks thats fvcked up? You don't even have to be making income off the crop and yet they can still tax you for it. Not to mention the fact that you can only grow 25 square feet of marijuana at a time. That might sound like a lot but if smoke as much as I do, you aren't gonna be producing enough to sell. Somethings wrong.

Some people will never be happy. Seriously they might make it legal so you dont go to jail over it. And u still complain

**Mooseman33** · 03-26-2010, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by 420daytona

Under the legalization, they can tax you just for cultivation. Am I the only one who thinks thats fvcked up? You don't even have to be making income off the crop and yet they can still tax you for it. Not to mention the fact that you can only grow 25 square feet of marijuana at a time. That might sound like a lot but if smoke as much as I do, you aren't gonna be producing enough to sell. Somethings wrong.

cmon man, that is plenty for personal use....and i smoke alot..
if u have ever cultivated, that is plenty my man...

**420daytona** · 03-26-2010, 03:18 PM

I know it is plenty for personal use, but how can they tax a product that you yourself arent going to be drawing an income from? Don't get me wrong, I would be happy that it is legal but the idea of the government making me pay them money for a product that I am not selling, and that they aren't helping me to produce isn't really doing me a favor. Hypothetically IF I WERE GROWING IT I could just continue producing as much as I wanted and pay no taxes on it.

**Mooseman33** · 03-26-2010, 03:23 PM

cause its the govt. they dont give a fvk.....

plus its cali, they need as much money as possible to give to all the illegals...

**420daytona** · 03-26-2010, 03:26 PM

Well you're right about that. You have to compromise. I just think it is something that it should have never been illegal in the first place, so maybe we will find a middle ground that satisfies both parties.

**JDawg1536** · 03-26-2010, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by energizer bunny

blood tests

Yeah, and what happens when you come back positive? So you come up positive and then what? It stays in your system for up to a month. How will they know if you were under the influence while driving?

**JDawg1536** · 03-26-2010, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by 420daytona

Under the legalization, they can tax you just for cultivation. Am I the only one who thinks thats fvcked up? You don't even have to be making income off the crop and yet they can still tax you for it. Not to mention the fact that you can only grow 25 square feet of marijuana at a time. That might sound like a lot but if smoke as much as I do, you aren't gonna be producing enough to sell. Somethings wrong.

Where does it say that in the initiative? How much will you be taxed for cultivation?

**ghettoboyd** · 03-26-2010, 05:31 PM

it would save my ass alot of money cus id grow it on my property weather thay tax me or not....and i wouldent sell it ohh no id, be a greedy **** and keep it all for me and my bros..... mwaah ha ha ha...arnold for president....

**Hunter** · 03-26-2010, 05:39 PM

Never been big into the green but I am all for legalization of it.

**ottomaddox** · 03-26-2010, 05:40 PM

I'm not sure about this either, being from California and holding a Medical Marijuana Card for the last 4 years, whether or not complete legalization would be good. WTF is this shit about:

Originally Posted by ray0414

The initiative would allow those 21 years and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana, enough to roll dozens of marijuana cigarettes. Residents also could grow their own crop of the plant in gardens measuring up to 25 square feet.

1 ounce of marijuana is not that much and most people like a variety for the different ailments that they are being treated for. I like a Sativa in the morning and an Indica in the evening. I also like a little Afganica too. I don't want to be told how much I can have at one time or limitations if I were going to grow my own. Right now I can have as much marijuana on hand as I desire and I can grow as much as is deemed medically necessary.

**ghettoboyd** · 03-26-2010, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by ottomaddox

I'm not sure about this either, being from California and holding a Medical Marijuana Card for the last 4 years, whether or not complete legalization would be good. WTF is this shit about:

1 ounce of marijuana is not that much and most people like a variety for the different ailments that they are being treated for. I like a Sativa in the morning and an Indica in the evening. I also like a little Afganica too. I don't want to be told how much I can have at one time or limitations if I were going to grow my own. Right now I can have as much marijuana on hand as I desire and I can grow as much as is deemed medically necessary.

quit your braggin you lucky dawg you....

**JDawg1536** · 03-26-2010, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by ottomaddox

I'm not sure about this either, being from California and holding a Medical Marijuana Card for the last 4 years, whether or not complete legalization would be good. WTF is this shit about:

1 ounce of marijuana is not that much and most people like a variety for the different ailments that they are being treated for. I like a Sativa in the morning and an Indica in the evening. I also like a little Afganica too. I don't want to be told how much I can have at one time or limitations if I were going to grow my own. Right now I can have as much marijuana on hand as I desire and I can grow as much as is deemed medically necessary.

Why do you think your medical privilege will change? It doesn't say anything about that in the initiative.

**2jz_calgary** · 03-26-2010, 07:31 PM

americans are way to fukn preoccupied with their war on drugs and terror lol They were talking about legalizing marijhuana here in canada and i remember the american govt making threats if we did. I dont think anything like that will ever be legal in the us.

**oldschoolfitness** · 03-26-2010, 08:05 PM

if any state in the u.s. would leagalize it would be cali. the u.s. govt. is deperate to make money right now. obvious why the hell do they wait and pass national health care until we are in the middle of a ressesion; after passing 1 trill. dollar stimulus plan. it would probaly take 10 years for the damn house to decide fight, fight, fight -lies,lies, and more lies. nothing but crap and nobody seems to give a s--- about the war bring'em home.

sorry for rambling just so frustrating for middle class

**ottomaddox** · 03-27-2010, 12:49 AM

I don't know, but I'm able to obtain as much as I want, money considered, but you know how laws can really mess a good thing up....I haven't studied the issue in great detail, but am very concerned.

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

Why do you think your medical privilege will change? It doesn't say anything about that in the initiative.