California Vote to legalize marijuana

[ray0414]

People have waited a very long time and im sure for a while nobody thought this day would come. But with a struggling economy i suppose the best way to generate revenue would be to legalize marijuana. A public vote will be held on the balots of whether or not recreational use will be legal or not. If this bill passes..i predict a snowball effect and could happen in other states too.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ize-marijuana/


Calif. Voters to Decide Whether to Legalize Marijuana

AP

When California voters head to the polls in November, they will decide whether the state will make history again -- this time by legalizing the recreational use of marijuana for adults.


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SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- When California voters head to the polls in November, they will decide whether the state will make history again -- this time by legalizing the recreational use of marijuana for adults.

The state was the first to legalize medicinal marijuana use, with voters passing it in 1996. Since then, 14 states have followed California's lead, even though marijuana remains illegal under federal law.

"This is a watershed moment in the decades-long struggle to end failed marijuana prohibition in this country," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy ********. "We really can't overstate the significance of Californians being the first to have the opportunity to end this public policy disaster."

California is not alone in the push to expand legal use of marijuana. Legislators in Rhode Island, another state hit hard by the economic downturn, are considering a plan to decriminalize possession of an ounce or less by anyone 18 or older.

A proposal to legalize the sale and use of marijuana in Washington was recently defeated in that state's legislature, though lawmakers there did expand the pool of medical professionals that could prescribe the drug for medicinal use.

And a group in Nevada is pushing an initiative that marks the state's fourth attempt in a decade to legalize the drug.

The California secretary of state's office certified the initiative for the general election ballot Wednesday after it was determined that supporters had gathered enough valid signatures.
The initiative would allow those 21 years and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana, enough to roll dozens of marijuana cigarettes. Residents also could grow their own crop of the plant in gardens measuring up to 25 square feet.

The proposal would ban users from ingesting marijuana in public or smoking it while minors are present. It also would make it illegal to possess the drug on school grounds or drive while under its influence.

Local governments would decide whether to permit and tax marijuana sales.
Proponents of the measure say legalizing marijuana could save the state $200 million a year by reducing public safety costs. At the same time, it could generate tax revenue for local governments.

A Field Poll taken in April found a slim majority of California voters supported legalizing and taxing marijuana to help bridge the state budget deficit.

Those who grow and sell it illegally fear legalization would drive down the price and force them to compete against corporate marijuana cultivators.

Other opponents view marijuana as a "gateway drug" that, when used by young people, could lead them to try other, harder drugs. They worry that legalization would persuade more people to try it, worsening the nation's drug culture.

"We are quite concerned that by legalizing marijuana, it will definitely lower the perception of risk, and we will see youth use go through the roof," said Aimee Hendle, a spokeswoman for Californians for Drug Free Youth.

The initiative is the second proposal to qualify for the November ballot. The other is an $11.1 billion water bond measure championed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the state Legislature.

[jccnewbie]

Your going to talk moose into moving to cali...

[Mooseman33]

i am out their often.

i could never live there, i would never accomplish anything. i know my boundries...

i will say something that will surprise most: i am against this. i do not want this to be legalized for rec. use and sold in stores...

[energizer bunny]

i would like all drugs to be legalised.......never going to happen tho....

[FranciscoG]

Decriminalization of coke, H, and Pot have lead to less crime in Portigual and here.

[jccnewbie]

i am out their often.

i could never live there, i would never accomplish anything. i know my boundries...

i will say something that will surprise most: i am against this. i do not want this to be legalized for rec. use and sold in stores...

This is quite a shock, please elaborate.

[gixxerboy1]

I dont smoke it but i think it should be legalised.

[Mooseman33]

i just feel that to many kids and youngsters will fall into a world of shit.

motivation will be crushed. Pot is a great thing, dont get me wrong, i love it and am in favor of de-criminalizing it just not in favor of 1. govt. envolvement, 2. purchasing it from stores...


what age will it be legal for? 18 or 21.
its like abortion to me, i cant finalize a stance, to many factors....

but it could be cause im stoooooooooooooooooooooooooned.....

[gixxerboy1]

i just feel that to many kids and youngsters will fall into a world of shit.

motivation will be crushed. Pot is a great thing, dont get me wrong, i love it and am in favor of de-criminalizing it just not in favor of 1. govt. envolvement, 2. purchasing it from stores...


what age will it be legal for? 18 or 21.
its like abortion to me, i cant finalize a stance, to many factors....

but it could be cause im stoooooooooooooooooooooooooned.....

you would have to be 21 to buy it.

I bet it would be harder for kids to get if it was legal.

When i was younger it was easier to get illegal stuff then alcohol

[Nicotine]

funny, steroid users not wanting marijuana to be legalized...LOL

funny.

it's decriminalized in canada - and cops dont care anyway (as long as you dont have a HUGE amount, or it's not weighed/split up)

it just seems the usa is so tightass about gay marriage, health care, legalization of marijuana ....... it's like the usa is suck in the past and just cant move forward.

the human race moves forward and progresses...

[Schmidty]

i bet it would cost 5x as much for a dub of kind if it was legal

[jccnewbie]

you would have to be 21 to buy it.

I bet it would be harder for kids to get if it was legal.

When i was younger it was easier to get illegal stuff then alcohol

I would agree with this.

[Mooseman33]

governmernt involvement will destroy it. unless they allowed you to grow your own...
thats what i want...let me legally crop my own..

[fattywarbucks]

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[fattywarbucks]

Yeah, legalize a plant!! Wooohoooo!! What kind of stupid world do we live in where a plant is illegal????? Its a plant. its been here long before we were.

Thank god other natural substances, like our own body's hormones, are illegal. (Blatant sarcasm).

I'm gonna go to the store now and buy some perfectly legal, highly neurotoxic, computer duster and suck deeply until our laws make sense

[gixxerboy1]

governmernt involvement will destroy it. unless they allowed you to grow your own...
thats what i want...let me legally crop my own..

you can but up to a certian amount

[tballz]

Don't smoke but I do believe it should be legalized for medicinal purposes. I'm on the fence about it being legalized for recreational purposes. I do believe it is safer than alcohol.

[energizer bunny]

you would have to be 21 to buy it.

I bet it would be harder for kids to get if it was legal.

When i was younger it was easier to get illegal stuff then alcohol

x2

im from England......and it was/is way easier for young people under 18 to score any drug, than it is to get alchol and tabs.....

[ray0414]

i have never smoked, weed, or cigs. but have have ate weed brownies those are quite fun lol. But alot of countries do report lowered crime when certain drugs are legalized. U can look at it this way, kids do things cuase they know they shouldnt cause it makes them cool. If the government tells them its not as bad as it used to be, it may lose its affect of making teens feel like they are badass cause they are breaking the law (even tho the age restriction will be in effect). Or for all the conspiracy theorist out there, this is the governments way of sedating us so that they can move forward with their master plan, to take over the world while we are all high But im all for legalizing pot, id rather smell pot smoke than cig smoke. I think that prescription pills are abused more these days than weed. How many people are running around stoned on vicodin and stuff like that these days?

[gixxerboy1]

great more second hand smoke.

do you realise how dangerous that stuff is?

[Mooseman33]

^^^^^
lol, u just made me fall out of my chair....

how great would it be, sitting in a casino, a cig in one hand and a big ass joint in the other....
im noiw starting to see the light...

[ray0414]

great more second hand smoke.

do you realise how dangerous that stuff is?

i think its kinda funny 2 say this after what happened in the other thread, but personally i think cig smoke is more dangerout than pot smoke. cig smoke is filled with too many artificial chemicals where pot is more natural, no added arsenic,formaldahyde, acetone, benzene,ammonia. im sure the list goes on but those are just few of the "added" chemicals.ciggarette= 4000 chemicals. weed=400. I could be wrong, but just seems the natural plant would be less dangerous than the manufactured/chemically created stick. BUT, thats why i eat it, and not smoke it lol

[JasonT]

prices would go up, but so would quality....I'm on the fence here too

and lol at mj being dangerous...it's safer than advil and the smoke is virtually harmless. I think cigs and alcohol should be in question here if anything.

[energizer bunny]

yeah i agree ^^^^^alcohol is the worst drug of all!!

[alexISthrowed]

I agree with mooseman. I get weed easy enough already and have never been caught. I do think it would be cheaper if it was legal and they could farm it on a bigger scale but quality may suffer.

[energizer bunny]

I agree with mooseman. I get weed easy enough already and have never been caught. I do think it would be cheaper if it was legal and they could farm it on a bigger scale but quality may suffer.

i disagree mate.........i think quaility would increase......ive been to amsterdam and its legal there......and they have more variety and strenghts than the UK..

[Mooseman33]

i think quality will suffer as they will create some type of association/administration that overseas this..
the usa will not be like Amsterdam...
soon it will all be shit mexican brick....which is why i want to crop my own legally....

[alexISthrowed]

i disagree mate.........i think quaility would increase......ive been to amsterdam and its legal there......and they have more variety and strenghts than the UK..

True, but if it was legal in the US I'm sure it would be farmed on a massive scale which would hurt the quality. It would be so expensive to grow good weed in such large quantities.

[jccnewbie]

i think quality will suffer as they will create some type of association/administration that overseas this..
the usa will not be like Amsterdam...
soon it will all be shit mexican brick....which is why i want to crop my own legally....

Just do it. get yourself a greenhouse and grow some. Don't grow tons, just enough to support your own habit, there shouldn't be any red flags if your not selling or growing large quantities.

[energizer bunny]

i think quality will suffer as they will create some type of association/administration that overseas this..
the usa will not be like Amsterdam...
soon it will all be shit mexican brick....which is why i want to crop my own legally....

True, but if it was legal in the US I'm sure it would be farmed on a massive scale which would hurt the quality. It would be so expensive to grow good weed in such large quantities.

Good points......well if it were legal like amsterdam it would be fuken great!! that place is excellent (especially for a man like moose)

[Mooseman33]

Just do it. get yourself a greenhouse and grow some. Don't grow tons, just enough to support your own habit, there shouldn't be any red flags if your not selling or growing large quantities.

cultivation is not a charge i want....sorry, those days are behind me...

i do still have my green thumb, but im not willing to risk it anymore...

[Bossman]

A lot of people do not have the facilities or desire to grow their own. The government should produce, regulate and tax it, but also allow people to grow their own. Ive brewed my own beer. But 99% of the time I buy it.


Michigan recently legalized medicinal use for certain diseases. I applied for my prescription as I have Ulcerative Colitis. The State is so far behind in processing applications I was told it will take months for approval.

But Im covered LOL!

[gixxerboy1]

True, but if it was legal in the US I'm sure it would be farmed on a massive scale which would hurt the quality. It would be so expensive to grow good weed in such large quantities.

but im sure there will be different companies selling it like cigs. So they would want to compete to have the better stuff

[gixxerboy1]

cultivation is not a charge i want....sorry, those days are behind me...

i do still have my green thumb, but im not willing to risk it anymore...

it says u can grow it yourself up to a 25sq ft area

[JDawg1536]

This is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...4414651731007#

[warchild]

funny how now its being pushed more than ever to legalize when CA is in the worst debt ever.....tax

[jccnewbie]

funny how now its being pushed more than ever to legalize when CA is in the worst debt ever.....tax

You don't think that they would ever do anything for the people's benefit do you?

[JDawg1536]

funny how now its being pushed more than ever to legalize when CA is in the worst debt ever.....tax

Keeping everything else constant, the legalization of marijuana would have California out of debt in 15 years.... possibly sooner. Why not legalize it?

[FranciscoG]

Keeping everything else constant, the legalization of marijuana would have California out of debt in 15 years.... possibly sooner. Why not legalize it?

because politicians do not want to seam pro drugs.

[Mooseman33]

Keeping everything else constant, the legalization of marijuana would have California out of debt in 15 years.... possibly sooner. Why not legalize it?

no way.
unless california does something about the illegals, they will never get out of debt.
they are the biggest cluster fvk of a state...