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09-22-2010, 08:02 AM #1
How the hell can my wife be so stupid
Anyways my ex and I are still separated. I have filed the papers, waiting on her etc..She came by and we talked the other night, about a lot. She still insists on this is right, which for me logically it absolutely is. But, with love speaking, and our child together and other 2 kids as well involved, I chose to give her the option of trying to work it out. She didn't seem too interested.
I noticed while she was going through her phone, her ex was towards the top of the missed call list, and i lost my cool. This kid looked up to me, probably because I married his ex gf who knows. But we started working together, and though I never lost site of the fact he was the ex, we did become cool enough that he came to our wedding, stayed at our house a night or two etc. If I had a penny for all the ridicule about this guy I have heard, I would be rich. Now, it seems like they are more than likely talking/sexing each other?!? Wow. That was the #1 place she ragged him most was sex. I heard 3 f'n yrs how bad he sucked in bed. Hell I could TELL when I slept with her the first time that dude won't on my level. I have never seen a girl react like that. But, hey he is in that crowd of her friends, she is close to his sister again, and she always called him mother 'mama' and that always bothered me, i even mentioned it to her and she told me everyone did, which is actually true.
But I mean the girl is stupid, when you are intimate 3 months out of 8, something is wrong there, she had a restraining order on him when they split up. She left him because of drinking, which he is now worse even if he tries to hide it right now in front of her. He almost killed a family in November hitting them head on, and I hear he drinks worse now than before then. He was good with my stepson at the end she said, but he wasn't ready to live the life she NEEDS having a child, now she has 2 children. I even told her before we split, I could never see them two together now that I know him, he acts like a kid. He just turned 23. He lives at home with his mother, works where I used to (I got him the job) - and there is no money or stability there.
She came to me because I already had a child, I had my stuff together, I have a good job, have my college degree, he can barely spell college. Her track record shows, even with me she does ping pong between ex's, even me - but I have to say wtf is she thinking with him? Just because he is part of her crowd? Insane. I have learned that whoever she talks the most shit about, is who you have to watch out for obviously.
She says they are friends, she isn't involved with anyone, he did help her move into her new place. But, she kept justifying talking shit about him saying her and I did it too and we got back together, I did it with my ex etc..but damn we did it for a month, she has been doing it to him for 3 yrs, even when we all hung out and shit. There is a difference. She would say things like she wasn't going to say what she wouldn't do in the future, getting back with him was doubtful, then she said she wasn't getting back with him, then she said i didn't have to worry about that right now, then she said i didn't have to worry about it at all, not to take the 'right now' literally.
If you guys want to know what my deal is here. It's because when we split, they hung out then too, as far as I know always just in a crowd. I never felt threatened by him, I even told him then that she was doing it to piss me off, which she admitted. But they both told me he asked her about getting back together, and she said she was worrying about school and not a relationship. So it would be a few years from now. Then we end up back together, and I be damn if after I sacrificed everything I had for her and her son, to put her through school she is going to run back to this clown. We got married, we have a child and thats bullshit all around.
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Can you and i try for a child ?
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09-22-2010, 08:23 AM #3Banned
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I feel for the children, that is rough. But in any case, I wouldn't bother man. Like you said in your intro: "She still insists on this is right, which for me logically it absolutely is."
That's the truth right their bro.
Your soon to be ex sounds like a very sketchy individual, and to be honest, I know it's harsh.... but it doesn't seem like she wants to be with you. Like you said: "She didn't seem too interested (in the ideas.)"
She's made a bad choice, and has rebounded to someone that is useless. Don't give her any f*cking dignity by asking for her back, or trying to seduce the idea of trying to repair your relationship. That's all bullsh*t. If I was standing beside you right now I'd knock you in the face just to clear your head bro :P.
She made the terrible choice, don't crawl back to her. Cut her loose, and proceed with life.
Best of luck man!.... keeping my fingers crossed that you hopefully had a pre-nup
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09-22-2010, 09:05 AM #4
Man, I know it's hard but you have to let go. You should just be done with her. Whatever she does, it doesn't matter anymore as long as it doesn't affect you. She is not your problem to deal with.
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09-22-2010, 09:09 AM #5
I dunno what it is about her that I'm having a hard time letting go. I guess it's because I know the way she used to look at me with all the love and admiration, and now I see just how awkward everything is between us. Which I'm sure its temporary, but when we split the first time, no matter what was said (bad shit), or what happened (even worse shit), things the couple of times we seen each other did not seem awkward at all. And we were only together 5 months before we split the first time. But when we seen each other, no matter what bothered me, or how bad I hurt - I kept a smiling joking manner around her. I was still flirtatious, would hug on her and everything. But when she left I would almost lose it....because she was so beautiful and I hated we were apart.
Take these days, I can't joke with her. The amount of hurt she has caused me and my self esteem is ridiculous. The last 6 months she really mindfvcked me to the point I don't even recognize myself anymore. I don't know if our marriage was real at all, or if I was being used or what. I don't know what happened with her and her ex the night he stayed, because I think I passed out. I know I was blacking out at the table that night (pills+alcohol). But then, I thought me and him were really cool, she dumped him, she seemed so happy with me, it was her I trusted. Now, not knowing if anything was real, I guess anything could have happened. I doubt very seriously with me and our child in the home something really happened, but you never know. There is always the back porch where pics of her and him were still being taken a half hour after I was gone. The mind racing is killing me.
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09-22-2010, 09:12 AM #6
That's the thing. I told her if you're going to date, find someone new. Don't make me feel like you got back with me because I did something for you he couldn't, then go back to him and his crowd. Until a few weeks ago, her and him were the only single ones in the crowd, so who does that pair up? Based off her stories the first month, there was no way she could have even seen him. But now, she says he is the only ex in that crowd she sees. There was another one, but he has a girlfriend right now.
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09-22-2010, 09:12 AM #7
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -Albert Einstein
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09-22-2010, 09:19 AM #8
Still you have to cut your losses. Whether she used you or not is not the matter anymore. If you involving yourself emotionally in this, you're just gonna lose precious time.
It's over bro. She's dumb anyways and you are saying it yourself in the thread title. Unfortunately she's just another one that was good enough to hide her stupidity 'til marriage.
Why would you wanna be with a stupid wife?
Let go.
I don't suggest this, as I am crazy, but taking revenge always helped me feel even.
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09-22-2010, 09:25 AM #9
It's not just my wife bro, it's my family. I miss that. I have everything I had invested into her and her career, then she gets it and runs right back to the ex. She may be denying it, but that's whats happening. This dude wanted her back the first time we split, and I didn't even see him as a threat since there relationship was so shitty. I mean it's principle I guess, and this guy has the nerve to call himself my friend?
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09-22-2010, 09:31 AM #10
my mom cheated on my dad with his best friend and now they are engaged. just cause someone says they are your friend doesnt mean they care about you.
and you say its about your family you should talk about how you miss your kids and family time not how your ex is dating someone else whether it be your brother or friend.
i know it sucks man ive been the child in this situation and ive had a girlfriend cheat on me and ive had a girlfriend date a guy she sat there telling me how much she hated but after we broke up she some how started liking him.
take your kid out have fun with him/her find a new girl that is going to respect you and leave this b*tch to rot with the loser she is with now
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09-22-2010, 09:33 AM #11
i wish you luck in finding yourself again man. the gym is what got my head straight again
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09-22-2010, 09:35 AM #12
OK, so it's frustrating but you can't change it right? So you lost 5 years into this girl. If you keep doing this back and forth for another year, that's gonna be 6 years you lost.
You probably heard this expression: Once a thief, always a thief. Same applies to people. People don't change. Yes some of them do, but they do when they change their whole enrionment. If your wife changes, it's gonna be away from you. You're part of the environment that makes her act the way she does.
If she comes back, she's gonna act the same. Do you really want this woman around your kid? Do you really want her going in your back again when you guys hit another rough patch?
So really, no matter what, you really want her out of your life.
Right now you're like an investor that's holding on to a falling stock that tells himself "It'll go back up, it'll go back up". We all know how that story ends.
Cut your losses. You need to start thinking rationally again. You're thinking with your heart and it's making you wanna take the wrong choices.
Oh and that guy? Go ahead, punch a hole through his f*cking teeth. It'll make you feel better.
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09-22-2010, 09:53 AM #13
Dude ...dont get me wrong but no matter how many times you start thread regarding your wife or soon to be Ex u will hear the same things......I dont know what u want to listen cause whatever u have told us it all come down to us to run towards the mountain and make sure u have ur daughter with u....
U have a pretty good understanding is to where i stand on the issue........i think u r hopelessly romantic and she s playing with u, she knows how to push ur button...thats all I am going to say........website will not finish itself
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09-22-2010, 10:38 AM #14
Well man when I think about it. Despite all the shit she ever talked about him, she was happiest with me when we always hung with that crowd, him included the first year of marriage because we worked together. Not that I seen or heard anything said/done out of line. They never even texted or called each other or anything while we were together. Maybe like a holiday or birthday, but usually even that was done by Facebook or something. She even told me once she doesn't talk to him because of me, and he is the ex....which makes sense. I just never seen this coming really.
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09-22-2010, 10:50 AM #15
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09-22-2010, 11:24 AM #16
I spend too much time trying to remember the details of everything, instead of trying to forget shit. I am consumed by wanting to remember every single detail of everything.
I should have learned from my previous ex, that this is pointless. Looking back now I wasted a lot of time being depressed and trying to remember everything with her. Nowdays, none of it means anything to me, I could care less.
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09-22-2010, 11:59 AM #17
Its sad when this sh1t happens,theres always hurt,one thing you should stop is looking back the past is the past the good times you had are now memories move on with you life. Build your life back up and live again looking forward because life is way to short to sit and lick wounds
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09-22-2010, 01:26 PM #18
I'm trying man. I'm back in the gym, I look well. But inside I am empty and incomplete as anyone could ever be. I don't care to settle down with someone else and start another family, this was my family. As for her, I mean I feel I was a stepping stone. Even though I knew she moved out with her ex's sisters help, I mentioned something to her, but never could see it really coming. I guess it's because him and I did become really cool, now I see it was just an opportunity for them to see each other. Stupid on my part I guess.
For the record, when we separated unless they were exchanging facebook messages where I couldn't see, which i'm sure they did - there was not one call or text between them. She called and texted everyone else she wanted to, but she didn't him. Like I said, im sure they were chatting on facebook. But as far as 'us', I would not contribute him to any of our problems, atleast not physically. There is no telling what she was doing in her head.
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09-22-2010, 01:33 PM #19
so what?? she's like everyother woman out there, they don't think they are good enough in this case for you.. You treat her too good..
at least with the other one she feels as though she deserves what she gets..
I know that sounds harsh, but go get a vasectomy.. it's a no co pay and you don't need any one's permission..The answer to your every question
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09-23-2010, 06:19 AM #20
Well despite all the shit talking she always did about this guy, it's not that I think he was bad to her. She even said he was whooped. She asked me what exactly she milked him out of since she was such a user....um, how about he cosigned for your tits? Then you only slept with him like once or so the last 5 months you dated, which was the whole time you had them!
It's just he is like a kid, I don't care how cool she is with him, his sister, or his mama - he is completely irresponsible and doesn't have a life suited for her with 2 children. She is out of his league, looks wise anyway. Even when they split up, his mom came over and spoke with her. She had already given me her number and said she was going thru a bad breakup, so why his mom went over there and spoke with her when she had a restraining order on him I don't know. It's been confusing ass drama from day 1 really, but we had got out of it I thought.
I still am not sure our problems didn't stem from the ex fling in nursing school, because the problems came out of nowhere. In like 3 months it went from I want to be with you forever to I want a separation. After all the humiliation she put me through for the last 3-6 months i'm sure she lost her attraction to me, because I lost myself. I am not the same person by far. However, I never changed until she started saying shit to throw my self esteem in the dirt.
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09-23-2010, 08:30 AM #21
JUST STOP! Let go!
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09-23-2010, 08:35 AM #22
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09-23-2010, 08:56 AM #23
Yeah, I think I'm going to email her and tell her everything I want to say, and then just let shit be. No matter how much it hurts, she is not going to do what I want her to do, she is going to do what she wants to do regardless.
Can't let it kill me. Thanks bros
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09-23-2010, 08:57 AM #24
and find a new gal pal
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09-23-2010, 09:12 AM #25
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09-23-2010, 09:14 AM #26
got it. and i don't mean go screw someone, just sayin there's no need for you to go it alone.
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09-23-2010, 09:21 AM #27
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09-23-2010, 09:25 AM #28
i actually think what rex said here is a good idea. ive made my mistakes with emails and letters blahblah if you write it and then burn it i think it would feel good. and she doesnt need to know your hurt. for all she needs to know is your in bed with to sweet 20 year old blonds or something
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09-23-2010, 09:26 AM #29
I thought about just writing it as a draft, and not sending it. There is no doubt I am holding on to that little bit of hope, which is stupid and pointless.
Thing is when she first left, it was HER doing the crazy shit, like accusing me of sleeping with everyone on Facebook, driving by my house with her ex's sister to see who was at my house. Once she did that with her ex's sister, I figured that eliminated him out of the equation. Guess I was wrong on that huh
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09-23-2010, 04:35 PM #30
IT DOESN'T F*CKING MATTER.
STOP THINKING ABOUT IT. LET GO.
It's time to start something new. There's more women than men on this planet. You'll find one hotter, and not as crazy. Now, if you wanna make sure everything goes your way in the next relationship, use Cal and stack_it's loveline thread for advice.
You don't have to worry about the next relationship just yet, BUT LET GO.
STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.
LET GO.
STOP THINKING ABOUT IT.
LET GO.
WHATEVER WAS DOESN'T MATTER CAUSE YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.
LET GO.
LET GO.
LET GO.Last edited by ReX357; 09-23-2010 at 04:43 PM.
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09-23-2010, 04:38 PM #31
To answer your question... She's a woman...
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09-23-2010, 05:03 PM #32
A woman, can literally drive a man, crazy.
I think REX is probably on point here..it's hard, but look at this way. Things can ONLY get better afterwards..
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09-23-2010, 06:07 PM #33
I dont know if i will find hotter, she was smokin, and PERFECT tits lol - but more stable? absolutely.
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09-23-2010, 07:07 PM #34
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09-23-2010, 07:14 PM #35
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09-23-2010, 07:48 PM #36
Do it. Then we can all post a bunch of smoking hot women so you realize that she's not the only one.
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09-23-2010, 07:49 PM #37
Another one of your issues right now, is that you're putting a woman on a pedestal. Never put a woman on a pedestal no matter how hot she is. You'll be doomed from the get go.
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09-23-2010, 08:09 PM #38
rather than putting her on a pedestal, put her on an internet
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09-23-2010, 08:25 PM #39
Love the title of this thread....."How the hell can my wife be so stupid???"
Let me count the ways! (talking about my wife)
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09-23-2010, 08:46 PM #40
Tits sag after being good for only 10-20 years.. then what you got a saggy titted bitch who likes to **** with your head? Men get better looking with age, women get worse looking and bitchier with age.. Screw her man, too many chicks out there.
As for the whole kid thing... i come form a divorced family and can assure you i turned out just fine.. most marriages >50% end in divorce.. so nowadays more children are raised in a divorced family then those who are not..
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