Which famous personality do you suspect has the lowest IQ?

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btw... did you know the college graduation rate for football players within a 6 year window for texas is only 50%? a six (6) year window??


you are too close to this and not reading what I am saying carefully enough.

So let me spin this around and put the ball in your court.

So you ARE saying that star athletes do NOT get preferential treatment?

Star being the optimal word here. Not every scholarship athlete is a "star". "Stars" represent maybe 2-3 players on a given team (could be as many as 10-11 on a major college program like Alabama, but remember there are over 100 athletes on football scholarships at those schools. So the stars represent a small percentage. Not nearly enough to make a broad generalization that you are making.

That they graduate at the same rate as their non athletic school mates?

No, but the rigors are different. Something you or anyone else who isn't a scholarship athlete can relate to.

That they come into academia equally prepared for their education as everyone else?

Again, you are basing this on a very small percentage of athletes. Most student athletes have done quite well in school. Even before college. Even your so-called "stars"

That coaches do NOT take them under their wing, guide them, and protect them?

Yes, they do, but what's wrong with taking care of an investment? Realize that there are things available to regular students (like jobs) not available to student athletes.

If you can HONESTLY answer "NO" to all of the above, then I will retract my comment about a double standard for Star Athletes.

What I said was this..."but a majority of these athletes that specifically get recruited to play sports, a majority do NOT graduate at the end of four years." (not six years)

Most regular students don't graduate in 4yrs. The average is 5yrs...look it up.

You are taking this personally. I never said I was a spokesperson. Your words, not mine. I said based on personal experience, observation, and TWO football coaches, whom I know very well for many years, that have shared many experiences with me.

Your perspective is that of the student athlete (it seems, I could be wrong, it could be more than that too).

Yes I was a scholarship athlete who eventually became a professional athlete. And my sons will both be scholarship athletes. I coach and have coached a number of kids who are either currently scholarship athletes, have been scholarship athletes, or will be scholarship athletes.

My perspective is that of a fellow classmate that has seen coaches dote on his star players.

My perspective is also that of a variety of other experiences.

Please do NOT take my comments as an attack on you. You may be the exception Star Student Athlete that was able to maintain a GPA over 3.00 AND graduate in the standard 4 years without a tutor being assigned by the school for every third or fourth class.

Again, yes I was that exception (I actually graduated in 3.5yrs) and many "Star" athletes do so.

My comments were of a general nature, specifically discussing star athletes, not athletes in general. And I was very careful qualifying my statements by mentioning what my sources were.

While I appreciate you trying to clarify. You are still off based in your assumptions about "star" athletes as well. The negative stories you hear about pale in comparison to the "star" athletes that graduate early, keep high GPA's and go on to graduate in five years. BTW, when on scholarship, you get 5yrs to graduate as well, not four. And FYI, I never took your statements as an afront on me personally. I just wanted to give YOU some perspective from the viewpoint of someone who was that "star" athlete.

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Katie Couric

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While I appreciate you trying to clarify. You are still off based in your assumptions about "star" athletes as well. The negative stories you hear about pale in comparison to the "star" athletes that graduate early, keep high GPA's and go on to graduate in five years. BTW, when on scholarship, you get 5yrs to graduate as well, not four. And FYI, I never took your statements as an afront on me personally. I just wanted to give YOU some perspective from the viewpoint of someone who was that "star" athlete.

Fair enough