Liposuction?

[Times Roman]

anyone found liposuction to be the solution for that last bit of stubborn BF in the mid section so that yer abs would bbecome visible?

really not thinking abouut it, but just curious if it worked for anyone else?

[Razor]

anyone found liposuction to be the solution for that last bit of stubborn BF in the mid section so that yer abs would bbecome visible?

really not thinking abouut it, but just curious if it worked for anyone else?

I honestly thought about it. But then I looked,at some of the horror stories and not going to do that

[gixxerboy1]

i only know girls that got it. No guys

[< <Samson> >]

Never knew anyone personally that had it done at all.

It's still a fairly heavy procedure.

[JohnnyVegas]

I know a few women that have had lipo and they were very happy after. They did it because they were heavy, not to get the last stubborn bit of fat.

They all said there was a lot of pain for a while but the rewards were worth it.

[Razor]

Yea I wonder if that guy that gained and lost 80lbs did lipo after.

[Times Roman]

since fat cells don't regrow (fixed number of cells after a certain age), then once they are gone then that's it. lipo is good for bulging fat, but not sure how good for that thin layer beneath the skin???

[Rwy]

I know a couple of guys in their 40's that got their love handles done. I know they exercised but diet and all that I am not sure.

[Razor]

since fat cells don't regrow (fixed number of cells after a certain age), then once they are gone then that's it. lipo is good for bulging fat, but not sure how good for that thin layer beneath the skin???

Since fat cells are created and can never go away this would be the ideal way to get rid of it, but I just dont know if its worth it

[< <Samson> >]

Since fat cells are created and can never go away this would be the ideal way to get rid of it, but I just dont know if its worth it

Do people believe this?

How is possible when I seen land whales have a gastric bypass & lose 150+Lbs?

Makes sense, but?

[Times Roman]

Do people believe this?

How is possible when I seen land whales have a gastric bypass & lose 150+Lbs?

Makes sense, but?

it makes sense to me. lipo is site specific, so areas not lipod would still have fat.....

[< <Samson> >]

it makes sense to me. lipo is site specific, so areas not lipod would still have fat.....

Huh? I was talking about fat cells never going away.

[Times Roman]

OK... I'm lost.

fat cells are fixed in number past a certain age. if you lipo, you permenantly remove any fat cells you take out. because they are permenantly ggone, you don't have to worry about them coming back or growing larger. it's a permenant solution

[< <Samson> >]

But, I'm pretty sure you can still get fatter.

What I was referring to is the new studies stating that after multiplying, fat cells never go away they just shrink.

How is that possible sine I seen people lose huge amounts of fat?

[Times Roman]

But, I'm pretty sure you can still get fatter.

What I was referring to is the new studies stating that after multiplying, fat cells never go away they just shrink.

How is that possible sine I seen people lose huge amounts of fat?

OK. i get it.

fat cells have an enorrmous ability to grow in size. there really seems to bbe no upward limit on how big. so even after lipo, you can still "get fat". unless you get ALL the fat cells in a specific area, the other fat cells can still get bigger there. But... fat typically does not grow disproportionally. If you increase your weight by 20% due to fat, then that fat cell growth will grow evenly throughouut the body based on how many fat cells you have. what i'm saying is that each fat cell would grow by 20%. if you have fewer fat cells in the abdominal area due to lipo, then you would still be "less fat" in that area compared to if you did not have the lipo in the first place...

I think i understand your comment now.

[< <Samson> >]

So, really you think fat cells never go away without surgery?

How can a land whale lose that much weight without surgery? Where do they go? They can't shrink by 75%. . .well, maybe. But, really?

But, yes if the suck the fat out there will be less there. Makes sense.

[jasc]

Wasn't there a study or something maybe a year back stating that after liposuction, fat growths typically appear in random spots within a year and have a cottage cheese-like/unnatural texture?

I remember seeing it on the news.. not 100% sure on the validity of the claim though..

[Times Roman]

So, really you think fat cells never go away without surgery?

How can a land whale lose that much weight without surgery? Where do they go? They can't shrink by 75%. . .well, maybe. But, really?

But, yes if the suck the fat out there will be less there. Makes sense.

yes, they never go away without surgery, they just get smaller. they are like balloons with an incredible capacity of expanding or shrinking. so if someone loses 100lbs of fat, still the same number of fat cells, they just get smaller.

[Times Roman]

Wasn't there a study or something maybe a year back stating that after liposuction, fat growths typically appear in random spots within a year and have a cottage cheese-like/unnatural texture?

I remember seeing it on the news.. not 100% sure on the validity of the claim though..

I';m not familar with that study. if you want to look it up and post the link I'd be willing to check it out

[< <Samson> >]

yes, they never go away without surgery, they just get smaller. they are like balloons with an incredible capacity of expanding or shrinking. so if someone loses 100lbs of fat, still the same number of fat cells, they just get smaller.

Damn, kinda scary.

All of your juicy fat is there just hanging out waiting to expand again. Uggggh, lol

[GirlyGymRat]

I looked into lipo suction about a year ago. 2 plastic surgeons said only traditional lipo is good for the abdomen (little wands only good for under chin....small areas). My research showed and ps confirmed that the fat doesn't come back in the same area as area performed. but if you gain weight after procedure, it will go to the next area that you are have an issue with. for ex, lipo on stomach, gain weight goes to fat cells in upper back next if carry excess or have tendancy to gain in upper back.

That's scary to me....

[Times Roman]

I looked into lipo suction about a year ago. 2 plastic surgeons said only traditional lipo is good for the abdomen (little wands only good for under chin....small areas). My research showed and ps confirmed that the fat doesn't come back in the same area as area performed. but if you gain weight after procedure, it will go to the next area that you are have an issue with. for ex, lipo on stomach, gain weight goes to fat cells in upper back next if carry excess or have tendancy to gain in upper back.

That's scary to me....

true. if you are going to gain weight, then total poundage will remain unchanged. the remaining fat cells will grow proportionally to accomodate the poor diet and/or lack of activity. but for me, the most stubborn area to lose is the mid section (genetic thing) so if it shifts to another area, not as concerned, since those areas lose, for me, easier.

[GirlyGymRat]

i carry my excess on my tummy too, but I was also too lean to have the traditional lipo safely. Both ps said I was not a good candidate cuz I was too lean and couldn't do the procedure safely. my fat is deeper (and I can't remember at this moment what that fat is called) So just make sure you get a reputible ps, who wants to see you live thru the surgery.

[Renesis]

They do ab lipo sculpting for men have you checked that out?

[Times Roman]

They do ab lipo sculpting for men have you checked that out?

no i haven't checked it out. not too worried about it but then again....

[Times Roman]

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2007/10/...puffy-to-buff/

By Jacob Goldstein

Despite spending a few years in Miami, land of cosmetic surgery, the Health Blog hadn’t heard of doctors carving out the washboard abs that some old-fashioned guys still get by following grueling exercise routines.

So we couldn’t help but notice these before and after pictures among the studies being presented this week at the American Society of Plastic Surgeons’ annual conference. (Click on the image at right to see a bigger version.) The technique, called abdominal etching, is a kind of precision liposuction. The doc sucks out the fat that’s standing between the patient and, if everything goes well, the six-pack.

The suction six-pack costs between $4,000 and $7,000 and is only suitable for certain patients, Aldo Benjamin Guerra, the Arizona plastic surgeon who authored the abstract, told us. “I probably turn down about twice as many patients as I work on,” he said. “You have to have a certain amount of fat. If you have too little or too much you’re not going to get the definition.”

The magic number, he said, is one to two centimeters of pinchable belly fat. Patients also have to be in good physical shape, and if they’ve already dropped a lot of weight, they’ll probably have too much extra skin for the procedure to work.

The technique has been around for more than a decade, but abdominal etching has never really taken off, Guerra said. One reason, he thinks, is because it’s more popular among men, who tend to be in the minority of cosmetic surgery patients. You’d also have to really, really want flashy abs to go through the whole process.

The procedure takes an hour or two. But pain can persist for days afterward. Swelling can last for weeks or even months. (The after picture above was taken a little over a year after the surgery.) And there can be complications, such as infection and bleeding.

Guerra’s paper looked at the experience of 32 patients. Several had post-operative complications. Six of them had a buildup of fluid known as seroma, which can be drained with a needle. Three had scarring serious enough for Guerra to give them a shot of cortisone. And two patients needed a second surgical procedure to get the desired results.

Eighty-six percent of the patients were satisfied with the results.

[GirlyGymRat]

looks like my biceps are bigger then subject : ))))

[< <Samson> >]

That looks wrong. In my best shape I had about 1/3rd of a inch left on my lower abs. I can totally live with that. Not straight washboard, but still damn good.

[Razor]

Lets see if we can get dan to have lipo, he will be our lab rat

[Renesis]

Yeah times that is what I was talking about.

[SexySweetheart]

So, really you think fat cells never go away without surgery?

How can a land whale lose that much weight without surgery? Where do they go? They can't shrink by 75%. . .well, maybe. But, really?

But, yes if the suck the fat out there will be less there. Makes sense.

up until around 16ish =/- our bods make fat cells, once a fat cell is made it will in fact die out at some point (cells die and are replaced throughout our lives, every 7 years our body has essentially no original cells) so yes a fat cell will die but it is replaced. There are 2 primary types of fat cells (white and brown) the white fat cells are the ones that we are talking about cuz its the one that stores more fat, the fats cells in the brown group have more capillaries and stuff in them.Attachment 123654

Genes play a part in determining where fat cells are placed as we grow into puberty, (breast feed babies have been shown to developed less fat cells) 2 people can have different amounts of fat cells yet the same fat % but will look very different due to the fat distribution ( the person with less fat cells will have them at a larger fat capacity and may show with just a huge stomach / the person with more fat cells have smaller filled fat cells and my show as just being curvy)

Losing weight only shrinks the cellsAttachment 123653...so when someone has lipo and then but doesn’t change diet the weight will be visible in a different spot than where lipo was done Attachment 123652


~did you know that fat cells have there own cravings? fat cells send strong chemical commnuication to the bod to be fed ~ so the fatter you are the more cells are screaming to be fed, it is NOT just about will power in loosing wieght...fat people are genuanly struggeling with their very own body when they face cravings

[Renesis]

Nah fat people are just lazy, they didn't start with all those fat cells they gained them.

[SexySweetheart]

Nah fat people are just lazy, they didn't start with all those fat cells they gained them.

its ok, I get where all your hatred of fat chix comes from ...but remember renesis that just cuz one fat girl rejected you and broke your heart doesnt mean they are all evil

[Renesis]

I never said I don't sleep with the chubbies occasionally :P

[Honkey_Kong]

Lets see if we can get dan to have lipo, he will be our lab rat

This sounds like a plan... Dan, we're sending you to a plastic surgeon and you don't have a choice.