Firing a friend

**juicyd2012** · 10-22-2012, 08:19 PM

Hello, has anyone had to fire one of their best friends before? It sucked! Anyone ever had to do that and still was friends?

**kmms** · 10-22-2012, 08:23 PM

rarely is it ever a good idea to hire friends or family members. it just never works out. i've hired and fired friends before, can't think of any of them i still speak to.

**Times Roman** · 10-22-2012, 08:28 PM

as a manager, you need to maintain an air of aloofness with your staff for this very reason. I can be very friendly with my staff. But if they screw up and it is serious enough, they know they are gone. I am not in the habit of hiring friends, but sometimes the people you hire/work with become your friends, and sometimes you need to hire someone you really need to trust. Sometimes I have had to hire a trusted associate/friend.

**warmouth** · 10-22-2012, 08:30 PM

Sucky thing, especially if you became friends at work and not having anything for you to do with hiring a friend.

**austinite** · 10-22-2012, 08:31 PM

I never hire friends or family. I'll do everything I can to help them find work, however.

**juicyd2012** · 10-22-2012, 08:42 PM

Yeah he worked for me about two years before we became friends. It sucks though.

**warmouth** · 10-22-2012, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by juicyd2012

Yeah he worked for me about two years before we became friends. It sucks though.

This is the suckiest part. Just becoming friends with a co worker then having to fire them. That blows for sure.

**Noles12** · 10-22-2012, 09:16 PM

When owning my business my father hired a family friend and fired him for being a lazy ass after about 6 months. He just wasnt performing. 3 years later he gave him another shot and fired him again. He is still friends with the family today, hanging out with my brother on almost a daily basis and no grudge towards my father

**juicyd2012** · 10-22-2012, 09:23 PM

I hope it will not affect our friendship.

**austinite** · 10-22-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by juicyd2012

I hope it will not affect our friendship.

Lesson learned. Try taking him to lunch and doing it there instead of a business setting.

**juicyd2012** · 10-22-2012, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Lesson learned. Try taking him to lunch and doing it there instead of a business setting.

I think I will try that, thanks!

**kmms** · 10-22-2012, 09:34 PM

from personal experience, if they were a friend before you hired them it will be difficult and sometimes heart wrenching to let them go but you still have to do it so i've found starting off with a couple of good attributes they have right out of the gate followed with a quick dismissal from their position which is then followed immediately by some reassurance that you will provide them with a reference and expedite the workers comp (unemployment assistance) process takes the sting off.

if they were your employee first and then became your friend it's much easier.

**lovbyts** · 10-22-2012, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Noles12

When owning my business my father hired a family friend and fired him for being a lazy ass after about 6 months. He just wasnt performing. 3 years later he gave him another shot and fired him again. He is still friends with the family today, hanging out with my brother on almost a daily basis and no grudge towards my father

Sounds like he knows he is a lazy ass and just doesnt care. He probably hangs out because he knows he cant get any better friends and he is a free loader. Just saying.

Originally Posted by juicyd2012

I hope it will not affect our friendship.

OK we need more details; or at least I do. What happened? Why are you firing him?

**warmouth** · 10-22-2012, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by kmms

from personal experience, if they were a friend before you hired them it will be difficult and sometimes heart wrenching to let them go but you still have to do it so i've found starting off with a couple of good attributes they have right out of the gate followed with a quick dismissal from their position which is then followed immediately by some reassurance that you will provide them with a reference and expedite the workers comp (unemployment assistance) process takes the sting off.

if they were your employee first and then became your friend it's much easier.

They should share a ZINC Cocktail huh kmms? LOL!

**kmms** · 10-22-2012, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

They should share a ZINC Cocktail huh kmms? LOL!

perhaps, if they are working in the adult entertainment industry and the reason they are getting the boot is due to erectile dysfunction.

**Noles12** · 10-22-2012, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Sounds like he knows he is a lazy ass and just doesnt care. He probably hangs out because he knows he cant get any better friends and he is a free loader. Just saying.

OK we need more details; or at least I do. What happened? Why are you firing him?

I completely agree. He is 30 years old, living with his parents and freeloads off my gullible brother constantly. My brother makes relatively good money and literally pays for anything they do

**lovbyts** · 10-22-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Noles12

I completely agree. He is 30 years old, living with his parents and freeloads off my gullible brother constantly. My brother makes relatively good money and literally pays for anything they do

Yeah that's what I figured. Your brother and family are to good hearted because they have known him forever and cant turn him away. That being said is all well and fine as long as your brother is aware of it and OK with it.

I have known people like this and have limited my interactions with them. It's hard especially when it's been a life long friend but it doesnt do you or them any good in the long run. It's sort of like being a co dependent to a drug addict or enabling them.

Hopefully your brother is getting something out of the relationship emotionally and it's not just a habit.

**Noles12** · 10-23-2012, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Yeah that's what I figured. Your brother and family are to good hearted because they have known him forever and cant turn him away. That being said is all well and fine as long as your brother is aware of it and OK with it.

I have known people like this and have limited my interactions with them. It's hard especially when it's been a life long friend but it doesnt do you or them any good in the long run. It's sort of like being a co dependent to a drug addict or enabling them.

Hopefully your brother is getting something out of the relationship emotionally and it's not just a habit.

My brother know but I feel he just turns a blind eye. He loans him money and tries to tell me he will pay him back, put a down payment on his car, buys him sporting event tickets, etc. I personally can't stand watching, what I feel to be, my brother being used. But he is happy and not struggling with his money so the choice is his. He is an adult and I know he sees it so its obviously a choice he doesnt mind making.

I personally have no issues with the guy other than my dissaproval towards my brother for letting him use him. He is a nice guy that helps my brother whenever he needs it.He will help him do things fo his business simply for lunch as payment. Other than the free loading he is a great friend to my brother so looking past that I have no problem with the guy

**DSM4Life** · 10-23-2012, 06:36 AM

Just text him "You're fired" and be done with it.

**austinite** · 10-23-2012, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Just text him "You're fired" and be done with it.

But then he would have to pay Trump his royalty fee.

**juicyd2012** · 10-24-2012, 11:30 AM

When I first worked for this company, they use to fire you by a fax!

**GeoBuilder** · 10-25-2012, 03:16 AM

I was laid off by a family member, it kinda sucked. But it was due to a company financial issues, I wasn't fired so the circumstances were a little different. I was more bitter he knew about it weeks in advance and didn't give me a heads up, so I could look for another job and put money aside.