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    how to keep muscles full and vascular

    best kind of diets ?
    heard carb loading ,high carb intake ?...
    creatine ?
    i notice some days im tired and muscles are flat almost look bloated and some im just perfect !

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    I don't know the key, but I know I am flat without carbs. I look forward to seeing what others have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas
    I don't know the key, but I know I am flat without carbs. I look forward to seeing what others have to say.
    yea me too. ive been playing with my carb intake maybe ill add more glutamine post workout and carbs . i have had bad diet days lately not consuming enough proteins ..maybe over training :-\

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    obviously keeping ur glycogen stores full is gonna keep the muscle full. i dont recall the exact amounts (would have tp look it up again) but glycogen is stored in the muscle along with water. i think its like 1part glycogen;3parts water. something like that.

    if u ever wanna learn an interesting method of creating vascularity and dryness look into the dry carb load.

    the short of it is consuming large quantities of water cause the body to go into "flushing" mode. it does this when it recognizes large amts of water are being consumed and it has to get rid of it.

    at the same time as this u want to run a zero/veggie only carb diet for several consecutive days while at the same time doing depletion workouts. after several days of this ur glycogen will be depleted and the muscle will be flat. once u have achieved depletion and the day before ur desired goal date u continue pounding the heck out of water. have a heavy carb load (like 600-1000g carbs) this is where my memory fails but i think u chug water to keep the body in flush mode thru the morning of the carb load and then u stop drinking water but ingest huge quantities of carbs.

    ur body will be in flush mode for hours after u start eating carbs and stop drinking water so u will be flushing water out of ur system while at the same time eating a lot of carbs which need water to store glycogen.

    the result will be ur body will have to suck water from underneath the skin in order to store the glycogen and fill ur muscles.

    the goal will be a full muscle belly and "thin skin" if u do it right and are very lean. some guys also use glycerin but i didnt look into this too much seems a bit dangerous. maybe at a later date.

    this is done for guys before photo shoots and could be used by you the week before a big beach trip where u know the ladies are gonna be out if u wanna look ur best.

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    Rid yourself of fat. Genetics play a role, but the leaner you are the better chance of a vascular look. NO (nitric oxide) products help but it's temporary for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Rid yourself of fat. Genetics play a role, but the leaner you are the better chance of a vascular look. NO (nitric oxide) products help but it's temporary for me.

    Exactly what I see so far too.

    I lost damn near most of the lard I wanted to lose and now I see a fair amount of vascularity while working out. When I run some sort of NO product they seem to be even more pronounced. But, for sure it is only temporary.


    I want see how I like when I start juicing again and stay lean. I think that is what will give me that 24x7 swoled look.

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    Everyone here has mentioned carbs, which is what I was going to say, so that saves me from having to mention it. But one other thing I wanted to mention that everyone misses and ignores purposefully:

    SODIUM

    Keep your sodium intake up, but obviously not to excessive levels. Sodium is extremely important for muscle fullness, hydration, and contraction. Most of us have been convinced to drop sodium almost completely out of our diets and that's really something that is not good. This is especially true if you engage in sports or intense physical exercise, weight lifting, etc. Unless you are a competitive bodybuilder ready to jump on stage in a week, you DON'T need to drop your sodium intake. It should actually be quite moderate. For the average Joe blow dude who doesn't work out, sits on his ass all day, then he could do with a miniscule sodium intake. But for those of us engaging in intense physical exercise on a regular basis, you need to keep your sodium intake up! The more you train and the harder you train, the more sodium is utilized and excreted which then necessitates more ingestion of sodium to keep levels optimal. The average dude who doesn't work out's body isn't using sodium like ours do.

    I once dropped my sodium intake to near zero levels because I fell into that mistake of thinking that we need to 'eliminate' sodium from our diets because its 'bad', and guess what? I noticed my muscles looked flatter, I got a far lesser pump in the gym when training, and although strength did not decrease, it staggered. As soon as I loaded up on sodium again, BOOM! Muscles inflated like a balloon, and the intense pumps were back up in the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini View Post
    Everyone here has mentioned carbs, which is what I was going to say, so that saves me from having to mention it. But one other thing I wanted to mention that everyone misses and ignores purposefully:

    SODIUM

    Keep your sodium intake up, but obviously not to excessive levels. Sodium is extremely important for muscle fullness, hydration, and contraction. Most of us have been convinced to drop sodium almost completely out of our diets and that's really something that is not good. This is especially true if you engage in sports or intense physical exercise, weight lifting, etc. Unless you are a competitive bodybuilder ready to jump on stage in a week, you DON'T need to drop your sodium intake. It should actually be quite moderate. For the average Joe blow dude who doesn't work out, sits on his ass all day, then he could do with a miniscule sodium intake. But for those of us engaging in intense physical exercise on a regular basis, you need to keep your sodium intake up! The more you train and the harder you train, the more sodium is utilized and excreted which then necessitates more ingestion of sodium to keep levels optimal. The average dude who doesn't work out's body isn't using sodium like ours do.

    I once dropped my sodium intake to near zero levels because I fell into that mistake of thinking that we need to 'eliminate' sodium from our diets because its 'bad', and guess what? I noticed my muscles looked flatter, I got a far lesser pump in the gym when training, and although strength did not decrease, it staggered. As soon as I loaded up on sodium again, BOOM! Muscles inflated like a balloon, and the intense pumps were back up in the gym.
    What would you say is the ideal daily consumption of sodium for a weightlifter?

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    my veins pop ou more when im hot. if im at the beach or cooking at work. my forearms get fairly veiny for being my bf

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