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    Fewer than 200 people showed up in support of President Barack Obama.

    I heard the reason was he ran out of free Obama phones so no one bothered to go.

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    Good thing stevie wonder couldn't see the crowd!

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    Obama phones probably only work for the first couple of messages. They are like crack cocaine: once you're hooked, they just keep seeming better. The only problem is that the only "Change" Obama's administration offered was a paradigm shift. People think the government should support them now; they are dead F***ing wrong. Obama is a Socialist, let him burn for what he has done!

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    I'm not voting for either him or the religious zealout

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    Know whats really funny thr whole Obama phone started as a home phone program under Reagan. Then it turned into free cell phones under bush. But really gets me is how smart bush and Reagan were years ago to call the program Obama phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Know whats really funny thr whole Obama phone started as a home phone program under Reagan. Then it turned into free cell phones under bush. But really gets me is how smart bush and Reagan were years ago to call the program Obama phones.
    and what gets me is people who can't see the difference between why a thing was started and what it becomes...it reminds me of union people who post those cute little pics that say things like "you can thank unions for your two day weekend" ect (as if we have child labor today in the us, one of the good reasons unions were started) but of course they fail to acknowledge what unions have become in PRESENT DAY america, which are nothing more than a tool for the democratic party elections (including tactics like thugs leaning on union members to vote one way or another)..

    btw, holy fukc stevie wonder looks like homer simpson these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitIt

    and what gets me is people who can't see the difference between why a thing was started and what it becomes...it reminds me of union people who post those cute little pics that say things like "you can thank unions for your two day weekend" ect (as if we have child labor today in the us, one of the good reasons unions were started) but of course they fail to acknowledge what unions have become in PRESENT DAY america, which are nothing more than a tool for the democratic party elections (including tactics like thugs leaning on union members to vote one way or another)..

    btw, holy fukc stevie wonder looks like homer simpson these days
    I semi agree with the union comments. There ars tons of things i dont like about unions. But as far as being democratic thugs? Every corp is pushing their agendas. Hell even some ceo's have sent letters to employees sayibg that if Obama is reelected yoy may loose your job. There is a ton of dispicabale crap on both sides
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    you can compare sides all day long but it's been common practice since before the days of Hoffa to strong arm union members, or should I say pawns. if an employer sent you a letter you can sue the **** out of them till the cows come home but when union thugs (I didn't say democratic thugs) come to your door to threaten your family there's no paper trail and you do what you're told

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitIt View Post
    and what gets me is people who can't see the difference between why a thing was started and what it becomes...it reminds me of union people who post those cute little pics that say things like "you can thank unions for your two day weekend" ect (as if we have child labor today in the us, one of the good reasons unions were started) but of course they fail to acknowledge what unions have become in PRESENT DAY america, which are nothing more than a tool for the democratic party elections (including tactics like thugs leaning on union members to vote one way or another)..

    btw, holy fukc stevie wonder looks like homer simpson these days
    correct. unions have, for the most part, served their purpose and are no longer needed in the US. public sector unions are the worst, serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever (apart for being a feeder system for the democrat party) and should be legislated out to start solving problems.

    what's really funny is hearing ardent democrat supporters try and make comparisons between china/india and the US. unions may serve a purpose in china and/or india but they sure as fack have outlived any need in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I heard the reason was he ran out of free Obama phones so no one bothered to go.

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...l#incart_river
    i think obama is a huge piece of shit and hope that this sends a message to entertainers about throwing their support behind politicians. you know damn well that stevie wonder can still sell more than 200 tickets on his own. if any of my favorite groups or musicians started advocating one candidate over another for either party i just automatically tune them out.

    it's a really poor reflection on the state of america when people are taking political positions based on the nightly rant by matt damon or tim robbins, or even worse jeanine garafalo.

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    Both guys running suck.But Obama wants my guns.

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    Obama is a pile o shit and has proven himself worthy of that title, I would sooner vote for sponge bob than that piece of shat. TR what is Romney gonna do? Make you go to church? Marry 7 wives? Prohibit from having an abortion? Not let you marry your boyfriend? Of course I'm being a smartass but really, what do you fear from the religious zealot? No vote is a poor excuse for not agreeing 100% with any one candidate, you're better than that, even if you vote for the magic muslim....at least cast a vote.

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    lucky for me my state allows for early voting, and I've already done my duty..
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    Instead of giving hands out to the non-working class (welfare, food stamps,Obama phones etc.), we should give that money to the working class that lost all of their homes and business throughout the coast of NJ and NY. Unproductive pieces of shit need to stop getting entitlements and its times like these where we need to step up give the middle class a little help…just my two cents.

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    What is the difference between Simba and Obama? One is an African lion and the other one is a lyin' African!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250
    Obama is a pile o shit and has proven himself worthy of that title, I would sooner vote for sponge bob than that piece of shat. TR what is Romney gonna do? Make you go to church? Marry 7 wives? Prohibit from having an abortion? Not let you marry your boyfriend? Of course I'm being a smartass but really, what do you fear from the religious zealot? No vote is a poor excuse for not agreeing 100% with any one candidate, you're better than that, even if you vote for the magic muslim....at least cast a vote.
    That has got to be the most UNIQUE plea I've read to get out the vote! What a concept to have live humans voting for Obama this time, after all the pets and dead people who cast a ballot for him in 2008. Vote early, vote often!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Both guys running suck.But Obama wants my guns.
    NO he is going another route. He doesn't want your guns, he wants your amo. UN small arms act.

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    A few of you guys are so right about them effin unions! Too bad it took so long for most of them to go away. Now we can have a free level playing field with jobs and pay and compete with places like China. So if we can just get rid of whats left of the unions here in the states, then we can further drop those wages to more evenly match our competition, say like around 25 cents an hour and do away with those stupid 8 hour days. Bring back the 12 hour days. Drop all labor laws and let our children work in the factories as well because lets face it our schools are useless anyway and they dont need any education anyways so we might as well put them to work early on. But then lets see now that most of those unions have gone, where are all those great paying manufacturing and steel industry jobs at? Hmmmm Can anyone say China? Who in the heck do you think was fighting to save all those jobs here in the states? Yes those very unions you so gladly want to through out the window! Since most unions are now gone we've lost all the textile mills, We've lost all our electronics. We have an ever shrinking middle class, an ever larger lower class, more crime in history and the list goes on and on. America has been ravaged by greedy big businesses who thought they would make a fortune by moving offshore thereby breaking all those unions and causing the havoc and heartache America now faces. The only thing they failed to realize is that once they moved the millions of jobs overseas at much lower labor costs, there was no one left in America to buy the goods when they returned because now no one had jobs that pay well enough to buy those same products we used to buy all the time. So blame the greedy corporation and your congressman for being paid by lobbyists to pass bills to allow this to take place for years. We are now and have been reaping the full benefits of said greed. I dont know about you but I think it sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD250 View Post
    Obama is a pile o shit and has proven himself worthy of that title, I would sooner vote for sponge bob than that piece of shat. TR what is Romney gonna do? Make you go to church? Marry 7 wives? Prohibit from having an abortion? Not let you marry your boyfriend? Of course I'm being a smartass but really, what do you fear from the religious zealot? No vote is a poor excuse for not agreeing 100% with any one candidate, you're better than that, even if you vote for the magic muslim....at least cast a vote.
    No, no no, he doesnt say you CANT have an abortion. He only says if you do you should pay for it yourself instead of the state and it's not a form of birth control. Again something must be wrong with being personally responsible and there are consequences associated with actions.

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    ^^^^ True...... we don't want to start imposing consequences for actions..... can you imagine how inconvenient that might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    No, no no, he doesnt say you CANT have an abortion. He only says if you do you should pay for it yourself instead of the state and it's not a form of birth control. Again something must be wrong with being personally responsible and there are consequences associated with actions.
    I agree. We should also get rid of WIC checks and free baby formula, diapers, and other shit to parents. All that shit is a SAFE NET. It gives people the "I don't wanna have a kid but if I do, it's all good, I don't really have to work because the government will......" mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    I agree. We should also get rid of WIC checks and free baby formula, diapers, and other shit to parents. All that shit is a SAFE NET. It gives people the "I don't wanna have a kid but if I do, it's all good, I don't really have to work because the government will......" mentality.
    no, we should take these children that are in the possession of idiots and raise them in orphanages and military schools.. that way they have a purpose..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzer View Post
    I agree. We should also get rid of WIC checks and free baby formula, diapers, and other shit to parents. All that shit is a SAFE NET. It gives people the "I don't wanna have a kid but if I do, it's all good, I don't really have to work because the government will......" mentality.
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    no, we should take these children that are in the possession of idiots and raise them in orphanages and military schools.. that way they have a purpose..
    LOL the problems is we/they let anyone, everyone and even want people to be dependent on these programs. Some of these programs started out with a good cause but like everything the government has morphed it into something bad. There are people who do need TEMPORARY assistance but it should be on a case by case evaluation and limited time. Not indefinite. People who refuse to get training, accept gainful employment or otherwise improve their current situation need to be terminated from the programs such as WIC, welfare and other such programs. There are far to many people who are willing to live with very little or whatever they can get as long as it's free or they can take it from someone else.

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    Romney response to Obama’s claim that he cant change Washington from the inside, that it can only be changed from the outside. Romney tells the crowd so we’ll give him a chance to change it from the outside. LOL

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    Obama is a Socialist, let him burn for what he has done!
    If you asked a socialist leader what they thought about Obama being a socialist, they would honestly laugh at you. Secondly, why are you afraid of socialism. It's pretty apparent our current form of government DOES NOT work.

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    If you asked a socialist leader what they thought about Obama being a socialist, they would honestly laugh at you. Secondly, why are you afraid of socialism. It's pretty apparent our current form of government DOES NOT work.
    because socialism did not build this great country.. and socialism has failed again and again ... those that do not learn from the past are doomed to relive it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    NO he is going another route. He doesn't want your guns, he wants your amo. UN small arms act.
    Obama doesn't want anything with your guns or ammo. Also the UN ATT was struck down, mainly in part due to washington and russia. Another also, I'm pretty sure the treaty restricted arms trade to regimes that were going to use the guns to abuse human rights, like what is happening in syria. Less fear mongering please. Big 'ole scary 'bama! Oh noes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    because socialism did not build this great country.. and socialism has failed again and again ... those that do not learn from the past are doomed to relive it..
    I hate to say it, but this so called "democracy" is a lie and it's ruining our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredMN View Post
    If you asked a socialist leader what they thought about Obama being a socialist, they would honestly laugh at you. Secondly, why are you afraid of socialism. It's pretty apparent our current form of government DOES NOT work.
    Because pure socialism has proven to be MUCH worse. Look at all the other socialist countries. Very large societies well below the poverty level because the are dependent on government and there are no jobs. We are heading the same way. We need to get back to what the country was founded on a capitalist system where you got to keep what you make instead of distributing wealth.

    Why work harder, go to school to get a better education to earn more if in the end what you make will just be taken from you and given to someone who didnt earn it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredMN View Post
    Obama doesn't want anything with your guns or ammo. Also the UN ATT was struck down, mainly in part due to washington and russia. Another also, I'm pretty sure the treaty restricted arms trade to regimes that were going to use the guns to abuse human rights, like what is happening in syria. Less fear mongering please. Big 'ole scary 'bama! Oh noes!
    How about opening your eyes and instead of following blindly and believing what he says look at what he is doing? Hitler wasnt scary, at first. Putin isnt scary either, right? Most dictators dont start out as scary and have nothing but good things to say. Yeah I believe he will do a LOT more damage if he gets another 4 years. I hope I'm wrong but I dont think so unfortunately. He has already done a lot more damage than what most realize.

    If you like the way things are going it's your choice. I am better off than I was 4 years ago. Not everyone looses but I try to look at the bigger picture and not just my own personal situation. There were many people who got rich during the depression just as there are now and in countries where socialism is alive and strong there are people/groups who are doing fine but they have more poverty than care less about the poor than countries who are based on democracy.
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    Democracy works and we were founded by it. With the believe in a supreme being. Now president congress all of them walk around doing as they please with their own corrupt agendas.
    Problem is I do not see a fix in all this. An honest man will not make it to the white house. :/
    I truly believe Obama is a terrible president. He goes against the very foundation of this country.
    At least mitt was born here and his college records are here.
    And yes Obama wants own guns!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearbox
    Democracy works and we were founded by it. With the believe in a supreme being. Now president congress all of them walk around doing as they please with their own corrupt agendas.
    Problem is I do not see a fix in all this. An honest man will not make it to the white house. :/
    I truly believe Obama is a terrible president. He goes against the very foundation of this country.
    At least mitt was born here and his college records are here.
    And yes Obama wants own guns!
    Even paul ryan in an interview said obama isnt trying to take your guns.

    I agree with the fact the right guy will proabaly never be elected.

    Obama was born here. The samr bs can be twisted about romney. Who wont show his tax returns and skipped out on the veitnam war to push his cult in france. See how easy that is? Do you want a cult leader who wont show his tax returns as president
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    I'm just upset that no one other than someone who is a democrat or republican will ever take office. It's just not going to happen. Also I see a bigger problem in congress than with the presidents though. Even if one of our presidents wants to do good for the country, our f'd up congress will find a way to stop the good being done. All congress does is argue with each other. They stop laws from one party that will do the country good because it makes the other party look bad. We need to end this democrat and republican charade before there is no more America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredMN View Post
    I'm just upset that no one other than someone who is a democrat or republican will ever take office. It's just not going to happen. Also I see a bigger problem in congress than with the presidents though. Even if one of our presidents wants to do good for the country, our f'd up congress will find a way to stop the good being done. All congress does is argue with each other. They stop laws from one party that will do the country good because it makes the other party look bad. We need to end this democrat and republican charade before there is no more America.
    yup, bring on the WHIG party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredMN View Post
    I'm just upset that no one other than someone who is a democrat or republican will ever take office. It's just not going to happen. Also I see a bigger problem in congress than with the presidents though. Even if one of our presidents wants to do good for the country, our f'd up congress will find a way to stop the good being done. All congress does is argue with each other. They stop laws from one party that will do the country good because it makes the other party look bad. We need to end this democrat and republican charade before there is no more America.
    Agree with you there 100% Never say never though. We tend to rise up when things are darkest. It's not just a saying, we/Americans have done it before and hopefully will again. The other parties are growing stronger with every election. I wish they got the same face time as the other two candidates so people would know who they are and what they are about.

    I in no way think that Romney is a savior or will be the one to solve all the problems. Same as when Obama took office I have HOPE though he will do the right thing and at least try to do what he says. The biggest problem I have with Obama is almost everything out of his mouth is a down right lie and he does just the opposite. I'm actually to the point I cant watch any of his speeches because I get so worked up and I have NEVER been someone to get involved in politics before but I have always been critical/passionate about telling the truth or doing what you say.

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