Pro's Juicin

[Hydroponics]

Just curious, how much juice do u think kai greene or phil heath do? They are humongous! Im sure they got the genetics, diet, training schedule... But in reality how much do u think is attributed to juice? Not tht much or a ton?

[Bigshotvictoria]

IMHO it's hard to say. First off, it's not something they really talk about openly. They also use a lot of other things, like HGH, insulin , diuretics, etc...
But I could do all those and never look like them. Asking how much is attributed to steroids is the same as asking how much is attributed to diet, or training, or genetics, and so on. It's no single thing but a myriad that comes together to form a whole. As to the question "how much?" my GUESS would be a lot by most standards, or it could be very little.

[-Ender-]

There is no way this can be answered.

At best this thread will only lead to speculation.

[Armykid93]

Lee priest has an interview where he was pretty open (could have been lieing) but he said he wasn't on very much stuff. Even gave what his cycle was. Can't remember where I saw it, it was years ago

[DanB]

Lee priest has an interview where he was pretty open (could have been lieing) but he said he wasn't on very much stuff. Even gave what his cycle was. Can't remember where I saw it, it was years ago

I wouldnt believe anything they say, they have sponsers to think about etc

Didnt Valentino say before he DIDNT use synthnol?lol

[Bigshotvictoria]

I wouldnt believe anything they say, they have sponsers to think about etc

Didnt Valentino say before he DIDNT use synthnol?lol

I'm fairly certain he still makes that claim. He claims to have only ever used test E and EQ, and loved spot injections for site-specific growth (LOL). I can't remember the specific numbers he quoted in one interview, but the ammount of oil injected VS the mg of EQ it sounded like it was only dosed at something ludicrous like 50mg/ml. I swear it was like 17ml a week of EQ. Whatever it was was ridiculous.

[cherrydrpepper]

Someone who competes gave me a straight answer on this but I'm not going to put it out in the open. Heres the only two things someone reading this thread needs to know. #1 A lot of bodybuilders have died from abusing every substance under the sun from diuretics to rec drugs to yes aas. Its ironic someone mentioned a lot of factors coming together to make someone a champion bodybuilder; the same could be said for when they die. Some of them it doesn't take much to kill them then others are taking a deadly cocktail that ends them. #2 Most people have no business ever trying to compete at the highest levels of ifbb pro bbing. As we get older and we put our time in at the gym, we can look in the mirror and acknowledge this to ourselves. When you are a young man and have only had hair on your dik a couple of years, everyone thinks they can be the next Arnold with just a little juice and hard work, but its utter bullshit and most people only figure this out after lifting for years and not growing to 235 lbs of muscle despite their best efforts.

[DanB]

I'm fairly certain he still makes that claim. He claims to have only ever used test E and EQ, and loved spot injections for site-specific growth (LOL). I can't remember the specific numbers he quoted in one interview, but the ammount of oil injected VS the mg of EQ it sounded like it was only dosed at something ludicrous like 50mg/ml. I swear it was like 17ml a week of EQ. Whatever it was was ridiculous.

I know some (mabey not all) vet grade EQ is 50mg/ml, same with prop

[Atomini]

This kind of thread with this kind of question comes up every few months.

There really is no telling, and a lot of this stuff is just conjecture and speculation. There is no hard evidence to say that the pros are using X amount of stuff at any given time. I mean, even Lee Priest came out many years back and said he used very conservative doses of Winstrol and such (200-400mg weekly, etc.) but he could've easily been lying. All I think that we can say is that a lot of the TOP TIER pros are likely using massive amounts of gear, plus designer steroids that none of us have access to (or ever will have access to). Some of the lower tier pros may be using more conservative doses and such, but at the end of the day there is no concrete evidence anywhere, and guys lie all the time in bodybuilding... its such a gross and dirty corrupt sport.

[songdog]

Guys ask this all the time.Think about it! Unless you were there how would you know.And I am sure they are not going to gather a bunch of people to watch.

[Lunk1]

500mg Test E for 12 weeks

[< <Samson> >]

1200mg+ of test alone per week

Don't ask how I know