Thoughts on why members get banned..............

**Times Roman** · 01-31-2013, 09:46 PM

................this is from a post i just made, but thought i'd give it a little more visibility, some insight as to what goes on in my mind when a member does get banned.

Let me know if any questions

"I've seen it from both sides now. In the beginning when a member, and now when staff. It's a little confusing sometimes whena member, since all the information is not always available, and because of that, the decision may seem arbitrary. As a staff member, I'm privy to a little more information now than when I was a member, and in most cases, there is usually a pretty good reason for the decision. In most cases, it is a clear rule violation, which i call an "objective" decision. Break a rule, and if it's serious enough, you're gone at least temporarily. Then, there is a "subjective" aspect to some decisions, in which case, it may not be based on a clear rule violation, but instead, it becomes a judgement call.

This example may not apply to this situation, but in some cases, dealing with a member becomes very difficult by staff. We may be fielding a large volume of complaints or concerns via PM, revolving around a certain member. We may be witnessing very objectionable behaivor, that is contrary to the "spirit" of this board. For example, members telling other members that we staff are idiots and that 19 year olds SHOULD participate in heavy steroid cycles. Or a member with very little time on the board aggressively stirring up shit with a vet that has invested years of our time helping others out here. You have to understand the hundreds, if not thousands of hours some of us here, self included, have invested here. and when someone with just a few hours calls us (me) a fvcking moron (when it's not called for) then admin has to stop and take a look at that. Admin CANNOT run this board by himself. He relies HEAVILY on us staff, and when members go ballistic against a staffer, there will be consequences.

Now, having said that, I'm also a member of several other boards. I'm easy to find, I've the same user ID every where i go, so you can see for yourself all the boards im on. When I take a look at the "ban ratio", which is the number of members getting banned in a month divided by the total number of active members in a month, THIS BOARD has a VERY LOW ban ratio!!! I've seen other boards that will ban a member for very little reason. Doubt me? Ask some of the other vets here, or other staff here, and see what they say. This board is VERY foregiving when it comes to member transgressions.

So in my humble opinion, when admin FINALLY does get around to banning a member, it is usually deserved.

I fully support admin in 99% of his bans.

my .02

---Roman"

**kelkel** · 01-31-2013, 09:49 PM

Nicely said TR.

**Lunk1** · 01-31-2013, 09:56 PM

Tr...are you trying to tell me something? Should I start packing

**Times Roman** · 01-31-2013, 10:00 PM

^ this is really in response to the sick beard banning. he came back under a different user ID and was complaining/questioning the decision.

The reality is, I've seen admin hold off a ban on a member that walked the line for quite awhile, until there was almost a revolt by the staffers, and then admin finally took action.

quite often, admin is looking for reasons NOT to ban. Banning a member is bad for business, bottom line....

**007.** · 01-31-2013, 10:16 PM

From the short time being a member vs lurking as a guest. So many people fight and argue over and over about the se things. If the person is being why even respond and give it fire. If you just ignore if they won't have any fuel to add. That kid obviously had problems but as adults ignorance is bliss. No reason to get dirty with people that just want to pick fights.

**Times Roman** · 01-31-2013, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by 007.

From the short time being a member vs lurking as a guest. So many people fight and argue over and over about the se things. If the person is being why even respond and give it fire. If you just ignore if they won't have any fuel to add. That kid obviously had problems but as adults ignorance is bliss. No reason to get dirty with people that just want to pick fights.

easy to say "ignore the bloke".....

....but we have thousands of members, and trying to get people to stop posting on a thread is like trying to stop a speeding train on a dime

**austinite** · 01-31-2013, 10:30 PM

Well said, TR.

**007.** · 01-31-2013, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

easy to say "ignore the bloke".....

....but we have thousands of members, and trying to get people to stop posting on a thread is like trying to stop a speeding train on a dime

People will be people I guess. :/

**BengalWoman** · 01-31-2013, 10:31 PM

The staff here does a great job! Thanks for all that you do.

**Times Roman** · 01-31-2013, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by BengalWoman

The staff here does a great job! Thanks for all that you do.

Hi pretty lady!

You guys been busy?

**songdog** · 01-31-2013, 11:02 PM

Well done TR

**--->>405<<---** · 01-31-2013, 11:08 PM

and here i thought u wanted our opinions on why members got banned!

(i was gonna say cuz theyre stupid morons)

**crazy mike** · 01-31-2013, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

and here i thought u wanted our opinions on why members got banned!

(i was gonna say cuz theyre stupid morons)

I will agree with Tr an well said. I myself had said something to being STUPID. SB was just stupid and wanted to aggravate everyone. You know phd seemed to be in that same STUPID mode, arrogant and trouble some. Anyway that's what I saw and heard STUPID, but when stupid has been told you're stupid by the majority then shut the FVCK up and just sit back and listen....STUPID...ha

....crazy mike

Oh, did I mention names, so crazy of me:-)

**BengalWoman** · 01-31-2013, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

Hi pretty lady!

You guys been busy?

Things are finally settling down a bit with the business and more like normal again (whatever normal is, ha ha). It's been work, gym, work, gym, ... you see the pattern. Hope all is well with you?

**likelifting** · 02-01-2013, 01:00 AM

I've been on numerous sites for decades(sports, political, etc). In the short time I've been here, this site is by far the most correctly monitored site I've belonged to.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-01-2013, 01:07 AM

Eloquent, as usual TR. Two thumbs up.

**marcus300** · 02-01-2013, 01:49 AM

Members get banned because they simply break the rules, our main concern is to keep this board safe and secure so we all can learn, exchange knowledge and give our experience to other members.

**bdos** · 02-01-2013, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Tr...are you trying to tell me something? Should I start packing

lol your posts are hilarious and good natured, SB's where arrogant and annoying.

AD · 02-01-2013, 02:06 AM

members who like it here and want to belong/stay here will behave in a certain way.

members who don't... they behave in a totally different way.

**likelifting** · 02-01-2013, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by AD

members who like it here and want to belong/stay here will behave in a certain way.

members who don't... they behave in a totally different way.

Great point.

**boz** · 02-01-2013, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by BengalWoman

The staff here does a great job! Thanks for all that you do.

I think gymgirlrat is not the only one around here with legs like a race horse

Also roman, ive only just started to come back on the board alot more frequent but from what i see, the ban rate here is not high at all, i think its got alot to do with the members that do get banned, they rely on this board that much compared to other boards, they get alot more disheartened.

**GirlyGymRat** · 02-01-2013, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by boz

I think gymgirlrat is not the only one around here with legs like a race horse

Also roman, ive only just started to come back on the board alot more frequent but from what i see, the ban rate here is not high at all, i think its got alot to do with the members that do get banned, they rely on this board that much compared to other boards, they get alot more disheartened.

It happens when girls workout

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This particular member seemed to love this board. I can't explain it myself.

**crazy mike** · 02-01-2013, 07:12 AM

[QUOTE=GirlyGymRat;6370894]It happens when girls workout

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Agree when girls workout

hmmm I am enjoying the humor and the gaining of knowledge from thee experienced and formally educated members who tell it straight and don't mince words. From my perspective the staff is doing an appropriate job and being fair with it's decisions. I admit seeing only a few cases in short time...hi "Girly". I'm a leg man a** man....crazy mike