She actually did it........

**austinite** · 03-10-2013, 10:21 PM

The penny will be the first to go. I'm guessing probably in the next couple years.

**lovbyts** · 03-10-2013, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I often wonder if I'd do things any differently. Regrettably I probably wouldn't. I was 17 and the prospect of sex without commitment was alluring.

The person who suffered the most was the fiancé. He was a nice guy from what little I knew of him and I know I wouldn't want to be the one in his shoes.

I'm in love with my wife. I'd be absolutely devastated if I caught her screwing around.

I hear you and I'm sure it would be TOUGH to pass up. I'm not claiming and moral high ground here, only I got lucky? Made the right choice once or twice and I'm glad I did.

**redz** · 03-10-2013, 10:22 PM

The penny will be the first to go. I'm guessing probably in the next couple years.

They just did it in Canada.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-10-2013, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by redz

They just did it in Canada.

Pretty soon it will be, "need a loonie, give a loonie."

**stpete** · 03-10-2013, 10:34 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahaha......This is fvckin killin me. I needed a laugh and i got it! Thanks to all my friends here. Geez.

All bullshit aside, i think you owe it to yourself redz to think things over. Seriously man, this broad just screwed ( i guess you could say literally and figuratively) her husband over in front of his family!? Is this really someone you can give the key to your home, your bank account info, your mailbox to? The keys to your cars or any other vehicles? Nope. I couldn't do it for the simple fact that i won't allow myself to be humiliated like that poor ex husband of hers. Let's just say he was cheating. Well, so was she. And even so, there's about a thousand different ways to handle the situation.

Bottom line: She's not stable. And neither are you if you choose to be w/this broad.

Wish you all the best. But don't trust anyone.

Just my thoughts.

**Brohim** · 03-10-2013, 10:36 PM

redz what happened with wife #1?

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2013, 10:42 PM

Every entry point armed even those on second floor. 6 motion sensors. Lights, security, heating/AC all controlled through same system accessible from my phone anywhere in the world (ok, anywhere there is a cell signal).

Found out my security company was ripping me off on cameras. Found their vendor and now order direct for half price!!!!!

My annual security fee is expensive to say the least.

**lovbyts** · 03-10-2013, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Every entry point armed even those on second floor. 6 motion sensors. Lights, security, heating/AC all controlled through same system accessible from my phone anywhere in the world (ok, anywhere there is a cell signal).

Found out my security company was ripping me off on cameras. Found their vendor and now order direct for half price!!!!!

My annual security fee is expensive to say the least.

I dont go through any service. I have my inside cameras set up if they detect motion they send me a text message and also snap pictures to record it and send them to my work since my server has unlimited size. On one of my Thailand trips I got a txt message, jumped online and saw my mom and daughter at the house.

Works good.

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2013, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

I dont go through any service. I have my inside cameras set up if they detect motion they send me a text message and also snap pictures to record it and send them to my work since my server has unlimited size. On one of my Thailand trips I got a txt message, jumped online and saw my mom and daughter at the house.

Works good.

I get automated texts if there is any breach and the cameras go into recording mode. The alarm company also calls if there is any breach. I like the ability to view the house from my phone. Pretty handy. I've had I unmonitored systems before too. My wife wanted this one monitored so I bit the bullet and went with a monitored system.

We had an attempted breach last year. Someone tried to enter from one of the patio doors and it set the system off. Was great being able to go live and see inside the house. Fortunately the intruder couldn't get in (all our doors have breach bars so they only move 1/2 inch, just enough to trigger an alarm) so there was nothing to see on camera.

I've tried several webcam systems too but half the time I was losing connectivity. I have no phone line at home so everything runs wirelessly.

I'm looking for a system that will allow me to control the garage door from my phone as well. My alarm company doesn't offer it but I believe a few companies have garage door systems you can control with a phone app.

**stpete** · 03-10-2013, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

I get automated texts if there is any breach and the cameras go into recording mode. The alarm company also calls if there is any breach. I like the ability to view the house from my phone. Pretty handy. I've had I unmonitored systems before too. My wife wanted this one monitored so I bit the bullet and went with a monitored system.

We had an attempted breach last year. Someone tried to enter from one of the patio doors and it set the system off. Was great being able to go live and see inside the house. Fortunately the intruder couldn't get in (all our doors have breach bars so they only move 1/2 inch, just enough to trigger an alarm) so there was nothing to see on camera.

I've tried several webcam systems too but half the time I was losing connectivity. I have no phone line at home so everything runs wirelessly.

I'm looking for a system that will allow me to control the garage door from my phone as well. My alarm company doesn't offer it but I believe a few companies have garage door systems you can control with a phone app.

Aren't you the sophisticated one? Hell, where i come from we use a 12 gauge or a bunch of crazy dogs to scare people away. I need to keep up w/the times.

**MuscleInk** · 03-10-2013, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Aren't you the sophisticated one? Hell, where i come from we use a 12 gauge or a bunch of crazy dogs to scare people away. I need to keep up w/the times.

Lol....not so long ago my security system was a few signs that said "beware of dog". I didn't even have a dog. Lol

**redz** · 03-10-2013, 10:52 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahaha......This is fvckin killin me. I needed a laugh and i got it! Thanks to all my friends here. Geez.

All bullshit aside, i think you owe it to yourself redz to think things over. Seriously man, this broad just screwed ( i guess you could say literally and figuratively) her husband over in front of his family!? Is this really someone you can give the key to your home, your bank account info, your mailbox to? The keys to your cars or any other vehicles? Nope. I couldn't do it for the simple fact that i won't allow myself to be humiliated like that poor ex husband of hers. Let's just say he was cheating. Well, so was she. And even so, there's about a thousand different ways to handle the situation.

Bottom line: She's not stable. And neither are you if you choose to be w/this broad.

Wish you all the best. But don't trust anyone.

Just my thoughts.

I've never felt so alive with anyone. I love my life and I love her, is it crazy? maybe but hey it's life some times you gotta go all in.

**redz** · 03-10-2013, 10:50 PM

redz what happened with wife #1?

Well things got so bad that she was asking me if we were getting divorced everyday. She kept asking and one day I didnt come home for 5 days. I guess I sorta gave my answer with actions, not the best way to do it I guess. Live and learn.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 12:39 AM

Famous last words! Once a cheater always a cheater.You got a lot to learn Karmas a B!TCH remember that!

I still don`t see the cheating part........open marriage....

Are you saying that redz will always be a cheater?

Redz, is that accurate?

I did some dumb stuff at the end of my marriage but I was never ever anywhere near to having sex with anyone while I was still with my ex. When she moved out all hell broke loose for a while though.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 01:15 AM

That being said, none of us know her except you so we couldn't tell you a thing. Only judge what you tell us, ya know? Regardless, like I said, good luck bro...and congrats? I'm not sure if congrats is appropriate lol

Thanks, I know I have been a happier and healthier person since she came in to my life. I am aspiring to big things and it looks like they are happening.

**red_hulk** · 03-11-2013, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Thanks, I know I have been a happier and healthier person since she came in to my life. I am aspiring to big things and it looks like they are happening.

Then that's all that matters dude, just keep your eyes peeled lol

**lovbyts** · 03-11-2013, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Thanks, I know I have been a happier and healthier person since she came in to my life. I am aspiring to big things and it looks like they are happening.

Ahhh yes I remember that feeling, and the feeling of the high up you get the farther you fall.

Wish you the best but honestly I don't foresee a happy ending. It may be all good for 3 months, 6 months or even a little longer but my crystal ball tells me she will be finding greener pastures soon enough and some how, some way you will become the bad guy and she will dump you. Dont worry though, it wont be until after she hooks up with someone new so watch for all the little red flags such as working late, not coming home when she is supposed to be, girls night out, not answering your calls etc.

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-11-2013, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Ahhh yes I remember that feeling, and the feeling of the high up you get the farther you fall.

Wish you the best but honestly I don't foresee a happy ending. It may be all good for 3 months, 6 months or even a little longer but my crystal ball tells me she will be finding greener pastures soon enough and some how, some way you will become the bad guy and she will dump you. Dont worry though, it wont be until after she hooks up with someone new so watch for all the little red flags such as working late, not coming home when she is supposed to be, girls night out, not answering your calls etc.

^^^ Once a chick cheats, she always will. Also look at her text messages on her phone when she's sleeping.

Cheating also isn't just fvcking somebody else. It can be simply emotional intimacy outside of your relationship. It's something a lot of people do and aren't even aware of doing.

**Perseverance1** · 03-11-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

^^^ Once a chick cheats, she always will. Also look at her text messages on her phone when she's sleeping.

Cheating also isn't just fvcking somebody else. It can be simply emotional intimacy outside of your relationship. It's something a lot of people do and aren't even aware of doing.

You're really advocating that he search through her texts while she sleeps? How does that benefit the relationship?

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-11-2013, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Perseverance1

You're really advocating that he search through her texts while she sleeps? How does that benefit the relationship?

It doesn't benefit the relationship one bit. But according to Redz' story, she's not somebody that much trust should be invested in either.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 09:39 AM

watch for all the little red flags such as working late, not coming home when she is supposed to be, girls night out, not answering your calls etc.

Were going to be working at a gym together ill be with her almost all the time.....

^^^ Once a chick cheats, she always will. Also look at her text messages on her phone when she's sleeping.

Cheating also isn't just fvcking somebody else. It can be simply emotional intimacy outside of your relationship. It's something a lot of people do and aren't even aware of doing.

For the last time it's not cheating if your spouse says to do it.

**Lunk1** · 03-11-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Were going to be working at a gym together ill be with her almost all the time.....
For the last time it's not cheating if your spouse says to do it.

Your confusing sex with love! They agreed to have an open sexual relationship! This meant that they could go fuk whom ever they wanted...which she did! It did not mean they could get romanticly and emotianally involved with another person! It turned from a sexual agreement to cheating when she allowed herself to get emotianallyu invilved with you!

One of my biggest concerns is that you seem to be going into this with rose colored glasses! Your guard is down and the potential for failure is high!

**Flagg** · 03-11-2013, 09:46 AM

I think people are looking at Redz situation in very black and white terms and im sure there is more to it than her simply swapping one guy for another, like someone would a car.

I think she has genuine feelings for you and I sincerely wish you both the best.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 11:09 AM

You're really advocating that he search through her texts while she sleeps? How does that benefit the relationship?

Not my style... I prefer trust.

**ElDude** · 03-11-2013, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Not my style... I prefer trust.

But how can you 100% trust her?

Personally, I do not understand how an "open" relationship helps a relationship at all. Thats not to say I don't think it can, I just don't necessarily understand how it does. Take your present conundrum for instance.

This woman was married to a man whom she fell in love with. Something happened in said relationship so they tried to "open" it up and she ends up smitten with you. Smitten enough to leave her husband in quite possibly the most horrible manner possible (in front of the family on vacation?! I mean damn, have enough balls/respect to talk to him in private). Now, in numerous posts here you say that this womans husband is always going out with buddies to strip clubs and bangs prostitutes and everything. Do you know this to be absolute 100% fact? Have you witnessed this man going in to said clubs or picking up said prostitutes? A person who is upset with another person will often exaggerate what they are doing to make them seem like more of a scumbag then they really are, so how do you know she is telling you the truth about that?

Point being, she fell in love with her now soon to be ex husband, just like she is doing with you. That did not end well, so it absolutely could happen to you. In my experience when one person tells me something, I may be able to shrug it off. If two people tell me the same thing, I take notice. If three or more people tell me the same thing, thats when i know they may be on to something. You got a whole board of people telling you the same thing in different ways... TREAD LIGHTLY and BEWARE!

**kitstreasure** · 03-11-2013, 11:31 AM

I've held my tongue until now... But the more I read this the more I think ya'll should read the book The Ethical Slut if you haven't already.

**fishizzle0927** · 03-11-2013, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by kitstreasure

I've held my tongue until now... But the more I read this the more I think ya'll should read the book The Ethical Slut if you haven't already.

seen that movie with Mandingo in it.................. it was a good one!

**evander87** · 03-11-2013, 01:32 PM

Hey Redz are you sure you're not rebounding? I mean if you felt dead in your marriage and now "you've never felt so alive" how can you be sure it's really love and not just that two of you found someone new when you were both at very emotional lows? I know just how powerful positive attention can feel when you're in a depressing relationship. I've also seen from a number of people who just got out of a marriage that within 6 months were remarried and yet none of those second marriages have lasted more than two years.

I wish you the best of luck but I'd advise that you wait at least 18 months before putting a ring on it. If it's love she'll be willing to wait too.

**Perseverance1** · 03-11-2013, 01:56 PM

Eldude and evander make some solid points. How old are you two anyway?

**JAB1** · 03-11-2013, 02:24 PM

Damn redz, you should look at becoming a boxer, you seem to love the punishment!! Lol, good luck man, wishing you the best, but this doesnt look good form the outside looking in.....

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 02:28 PM

But how can you 100% trust her?

Personally, I do not understand how an "open" relationship helps a relationship at all. Thats not to say I don't think it can, I just don't necessarily understand how it does. Take your present conundrum for instance.

This woman was married to a man whom she fell in love with. Something happened in said relationship so they tried to "open" it up and she ends up smitten with you. Smitten enough to leave her husband in quite possibly the most horrible manner possible (in front of the family on vacation?! I mean damn, have enough balls/respect to talk to him in private). Now, in numerous posts here you say that this womans husband is always going out with buddies to strip clubs and bangs prostitutes and everything. Do you know this to be absolute 100% fact? Have you witnessed this man going in to said clubs or picking up said prostitutes? A person who is upset with another person will often exaggerate what they are doing to make them seem like more of a scumbag then they really are, so how do you know she is telling you the truth about that?

Point being, she fell in love with her now soon to be ex husband, just like she is doing with you. That did not end well, so it absolutely could happen to you. In my experience when one person tells me something, I may be able to shrug it off. If two people tell me the same thing, I take notice. If three or more people tell me the same thing, thats when i know they may be on to something. You got a whole board of people telling you the same thing in different ways... TREAD LIGHTLY and BEWARE!

She married him for money not love......

Hey Redz are you sure you're not rebounding? I mean if you felt dead in your marriage and now "you've never felt so alive" how can you be sure it's really love and not just that two of you found someone new when you were both at very emotional lows? I know just how powerful positive attention can feel when you're in a depressing relationship. I've also seen from a number of people who just got out of a marriage that within 6 months were remarried and yet none of those second marriages have lasted more than two years.

I wish you the best of luck but I'd advise that you wait at least 18 months before putting a ring on it. If it's love she'll be willing to wait too.

I banged some chicks and had some fun before this girl so I`m not worried about that.

Eldude and evander make some solid points. How old are you two anyway?

I`m 29 and she is 32.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 04:26 PM

But according to Redz' story, she's not somebody that much trust should be invested in either.

Why's that no one was lied to....

**Lunk1** · 03-11-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Why's that no one was lied to....

Did she tell her husband as soon as you 2 started having an EMOTIONAL relationship? Not sex...but this love you speak of?

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 04:35 PM

Did she tell her husband as soon as you 2 started having an EMOTIONAL relationship? Not sex...but this love you speak of?

Yes she did tell him pretty early on, she was spending weeks at my house and even at one point 3 weeks. He knew because she was living 4 hours away from me and driving to come see me all the time. On their 1 year anniversary she was in my bed waking up......That was less than a month after I met her.

**DB1982** · 03-11-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Yes she did tell him pretty early on, she was spending weeks at my house and even at one point 3 weeks. He knew because she was living 4 hours away from me and driving to come see me all the time. On their 1 year anniversary she was in my bed waking up......That was less than a month after I met her.

You seem pretty proud of yourself.
As I'm sure she feels proud of herself too having USED another person for financial gain.
I didn't read the Entire thread but I really hope there are no kids involved in this mess.

**redz** · 03-11-2013, 05:26 PM

I didn't read the Entire thread but I really hope there are no kids involved in this mess.

Nope I wouldn`t mess with that. I am proud to have over come a near impossible situation. I just kept focusing on having her and made it happen, never let doubt creep into my head.

**ElDude** · 03-12-2013, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Nope I wouldn`t mess with that. I am proud to have over come a near impossible situation. I just kept focusing on having her and made it happen, never let doubt creep into my head.

No disrespect- Based off of every single comment you have left here, it seems like you are absolutely 100% positive that this woman is the be all end all and that you two will get married and open up your business and spend life together. The fact that you cannot even acknowledge some of the concerns raised here makes me question the validity of some of the things you have said already.

Originally Posted by redz

She married him for money not love......

How do you know this?!!?!?!? How do you know this as a 100% fact? If you are just taking this woman's word on 100% faith without any reservations then so be it, but I got to tell you that is 100% crazy and you are already setting yourself up to get hurt.