I am almost scared to ask a question on this forum?

**cybersober** · 03-29-2013, 05:26 AM

I have been reading for three hours and I am new, but have some questions that I really could use answers to. I am new to posting on a forum, have read the rules, but I am unclear where exactly to post my questions. I am getting some gear tomorrow and am unsure the amount of I will need for a cycle or how long a cycle I need to be on. I am getting test prop and deca , but I don't know how much I should get? I am 39 years old, 163lbs. I want to gain about 25lbs of mass. Also, it's not pharm and I am unclear on what price or if I am even aloud to ask what would be a good price. If I screwed up on my first post I am guessing I will hear it. Thanks for any help you may offer.

**DSM4Life** · 03-29-2013, 05:27 AM

Sounds like you did a lot of research before starting this cycle...

**cybersober** · 03-29-2013, 05:41 AM

I haven't started a cycle I am just getting the gear tomorrow, the guy told me what he suggested and I wanted to get some information to see if it matches up to what he was suggesting. Otherwise all I have to go off is his word and I would rather be a little bit more informed. Thanks for making me feel welcome, and I assuming your being sarcastic?

**bdos** · 03-29-2013, 05:44 AM

If you don't know how much you need or how to do it you might need to read just a little more.

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-29-2013, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by cybersober

I have been reading for three hours and I am new, but have some questions that I really could use answers to. I am new to posting on a forum, have read the rules, but I am unclear where exactly to post my questions. I am getting some gear tomorrow and am unsure the amount of I will need for a cycle or how long a cycle I need to be on. I am getting test prop and deca, but I don't know how much I should get? I am 39 years old, 163lbs. I want to gain about 25lbs of mass. Also, it's not pharm and I am unclear on what price or if I am even aloud to ask what would be a good price. If I screwed up on my first post I am guessing I will hear it. Thanks for any help you may offer.

How tall are you? What is your training background? What does your diet look like? I need to know more before I can offer you advice.

**Back In Black** · 03-29-2013, 05:45 AM

It is against the rules to discuss prices.

You need to do ALOT more research before even considering any cycle. Read for more than 3 hours and you will work out that your proposed 'stack' as a first cycle is a no-no.

First tell us

Height
Bodyfat%
Training history
Goals.
Typical diet

Do you know anything about, HCG , Aromatase Inhibitors, PCT?

**krugerr** · 03-29-2013, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by cybersober

I haven't started a cycle I am just getting the gear tomorrow, the guy told me what he suggested and I wanted to get some information to see if it matches up to what he was suggesting. Otherwise all I have to go off is his word and I would rather be a little bit more informed. Thanks for making me feel welcome, and I assuming your being sarcastic?

Well welcome.
There are plenty of sticky threads to read regarding first cycles. I would not listen to your dealers advice. I would not run Deca on your first cycle.

Have a read of the stickies, post back with further questions, propose a course, AI, PCT and HCG and we'll help you correct it.

Post up your lifting experience and your bodyfat please?

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-29-2013, 05:54 AM

OP, it's a safe rule of thumb to never take advice from your dealer. They don't care about your health or what's good for you. Their interest is in moving gear and making money.

**diesel101** · 03-29-2013, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by honkey_kong

op, it's a safe rule of thumb to never take advice from your dealer. They don't care about your health or what's good for you. Their interest is in moving gear and making money.

x2!!

**Shol'va** · 03-29-2013, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Sounds like you did a lot of research before starting this cycle...

As he walks away from his computer snickering all the way out.....

**Knockout_Power** · 03-29-2013, 10:21 AM

Thats a ton of gear for a single cycle. You sure you actually did research? Knowing what to use is not difficult to find out and the amounts of each you need is simple math. If this eludes you, cycling may not be the best thing for you... grade 6 math just might be

**Capebuffalo** · 03-29-2013, 10:33 AM

Unless you are under 5-8 at 163 lbs. all you need is food. Please list everything you ate yesterday.
Please and thank you.

**cybersober** · 03-30-2013, 11:02 PM

I am 5'8 163lbs, I will check my body fat percentage at the gym on Monday and post back. I have worked out off and on during periods of my life. Mostly weight training. I eat a lot of chicken and eggs and a couple protein shakes spread out over about five or six smaller meals throughout the day. Right now I am working chest and biceps at 4 sets each and I shoot for 8 reps and I do 3 to 4 exercises per muscle group, I work shoulders and triceps together, legs one day and back one day. I could post pictures if needed. My goals is not to be perfect but comfortable in my own skin and to help boost my confidence. I want to focus more on my shoulders and biceps, they are my weakest traits. Triceps and chest being my strongest. I know I need to eat more, but the appetite is not there yet. Thanks for offering to take my post seriously and not to take the opportunity to put someone down who is genuinely asking for suggestions. Everyone here been a beginner is this area at one point in there life.

**Honkey_Kong** · 03-30-2013, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by cybersober

I am 5'8 163lbs, I will check my body fat percentage at the gym on Monday and post back. I have worked out off and on during periods of my life. Mostly weight training. I eat a lot of chicken and eggs and a couple protein shakes spread out over about five or six smaller meals throughout the day. Right now I am working chest and biceps at 4 sets each and I shoot for 8 reps and I do 3 to 4 exercises per muscle group, I work shoulders and triceps together, legs one day and back one day. I could post pictures if needed. My goals is not to be perfect but comfortable in my own skin and to help boost my confidence. I want to focus more on my shoulders and biceps, they are my weakest traits. Triceps and chest being my strongest. I know I need to eat more, but the appetite is not there yet. Thanks for offering to take my post seriously and not to take the opportunity to put someone down who is genuinely asking for suggestions. Everyone here been a beginner is this area at one point in there life.

You should come up with goals of poundage gained, size changes and/or other real tangible goals. When you come up with something vague, you'll never achieve it in your mind. What is big enough? Know what I mean?

I'll tell you this much, if you think gear is going to make you comfortable enough or boost your confidence enough, guess again. Those things come from inside. They don't come from your physical appearance despite what you might think. If you think at 163lbs that you're not comfortable with your size, you'll still think that at 200lbs and 300lbs.

**RoadToHuge** · 03-31-2013, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Unless you are under 5-8 at 163 lbs. all you need is food. Please list everything you ate yesterday.
Please and thank you.

im 5-7 and I say all he still needs is food. Even at our height, your not training hard enough if your not at least 180. More drop sets, more sammich, repeat.

**MickeyKnox** · 03-31-2013, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

Sounds like you did a lot of research before starting this cycle...

Originally Posted by cybersober

I haven't started a cycle I am just getting the gear tomorrow, the guy told me what he suggested and I wanted to get some information to see if it matches up to what he was suggesting. Otherwise all I have to go off is his word and I would rather be a little bit more informed. Thanks for making me feel welcome, and I assuming your being sarcastic?

lmao.

**hugovsilva** · 04-01-2013, 06:19 AM

To start off this is not the right place for questions about cycles.

Go the the steroid Q&A forum and use the search button. Try "first cycle" and you will soon understand why your proposed cycle (if I can call it that) is flawed.

**ChiveOn** · 04-01-2013, 05:23 PM

We're here to offer experienced advice from people that have been there and tried that. Read the stickeys on first cycles and NEVER buy gear before you know what your doing! Or what doses to take! It's common sense that will save ou from getting screwed over.
Also, AI? HCG ? PCT?

**steroid.com 1** · 04-01-2013, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by hugovsilva

To start off this is not the right place for questions about cycles.

Go the the steroid Q&A forum and use the search button. Try "first cycle" and you will soon understand why your proposed cycle (if I can call it that) is flawed.

^^^^Exactly!

**Armykid93** · 04-01-2013, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by RoadToHuge

im 5-7 and I say all he still needs is food. Even at our height, your not training hard enough if your not at least 180. More drop sets, more sammich, repeat.

Your not training hard enough at our height if you're not above 200 natty lol

**steroid.com 1** · 04-01-2013, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Armykid93

Your not training hard enough at our height if you're not above 200 natty lol

Damn man, I need you for a training partner.

I am 52, weight 180 lbs, BF at 12% and bust my ass 4 days a week...freaking hard!

If came in at 200 lbs at my BF% I'd look like a freak!!!

And whose going to buy all the new clothes I need LOL!!!

**Knockout_Power** · 04-01-2013, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Damn man, I need you for a training partner.

I am 52, weight 180 lbs, BF at 12% and bust my ass 4 days a week...freaking hard!

If came in at 200 lbs at my BF% I'd look like a freak!!!

And whose going to buy all the new clothes I need LOL!!!

super vascular for that BF man (judging by your avi)... impressive unflexed

**Armykid93** · 04-02-2013, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Damn man, I need you for a training partner.

I am 52, weight 180 lbs, BF at 12% and bust my ass 4 days a week...freaking hard!

If came in at 200 lbs at my BF% I'd look like a freak!!!

And whose going to buy all the new clothes I need LOL!!!

Sadly i'm not there anymore but I'll be there again eventually.

**Armykid93** · 04-02-2013, 08:36 AM

Is that you in you're avi gd??

If it is you've got some really awesome ink

**steroid.com 1** · 04-02-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Armykid93

Is that you in you're avi gd??

If it is you've got some really awesome ink

That'd be me Army...and thank you.

My Tattoo artist is nationally known for his work and one of my best friends.

In fact, he's in this months Skin Art magazine with a picture of me when we own 1st place for the tiger last year.

**steroid.com 1** · 04-02-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

super vascular for that BF man (judging by your avi)... impressive unflexed

Thanks Knockout!

That's what 5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) 2x daily will do for you.

Here's a good thread in the HRT forum if you're interested to learn more.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y#.UVs_5pPktqU

**canesfan804** · 04-02-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Thanks Knockout!

That's what 5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) 2x daily will do for you.

Here's a good thread in the HRT forum if you're interested to learn more.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y#.UVs_5pPktqU

So that is what the guys in the gym are taking to get that look. Hmmmmm

**canesfan804** · 04-02-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by cybersober

I have been reading for three hours and I am new, but have some questions that I really could use answers to. I am new to posting on a forum, have read the rules, but I am unclear where exactly to post my questions. I am getting some gear tomorrow and am unsure the amount of I will need for a cycle or how long a cycle I need to be on. I am getting test prop and deca, but I don't know how much I should get? I am 39 years old, 163lbs. I want to gain about 25lbs of mass. Also, it's not pharm and I am unclear on what price or if I am even aloud to ask what would be a good price. If I screwed up on my first post I am guessing I will hear it. Thanks for any help you may offer.

Cybersober if it was me I would save my money and do alot of reasarch. 1st you dont need Deca for 1st cycle and 2nd thing is Test Prop is only good basically if you take it every other day. Thats alot of pinning for a newbie. Take your time and learn, then the vets will help get you in the right direction.

**evander87** · 04-02-2013, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by cybersober

I have worked out off and on during periods of my life. Mostly weight training.

At 39 your connective tissue is getting less and less elastic. If you haven't spent quality time building your base and you use gear, your strength increases drastically setting yourself up for a serious joint injury.

My advice, get dedicated to hitting the gym for 18-24 months before hitting aas to strengthen your connective tissue to handle the dramatic increase of strength.

**Armykid93** · 04-03-2013, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by gdevine

That'd be me Army...and thank you.

My Tattoo artist is nationally known for his work and one of my best friends.

In fact, he's in this months Skin Art magazine with a picture of me when we own 1st place for the tiger last year.

Very cool. Always wanted to get some stuff done. Just waiting for the right inspiration I guess lol

**Knockout_Power** · 04-03-2013, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Thanks Knockout!

That's what 5 mg of Tadalafil (Cialis) 2x daily will do for you.

Here's a good thread in the HRT forum if you're interested to learn more.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...y#.UVs_5pPktqU

too many yoga pants at my gym... cant take those

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-03-2013, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

too many yoga pants at my gym... cant take those

...thinking the gals would be know who you are LOL

**Knockout_Power** · 04-03-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

...thinking the gals would be know who you are LOL

Im actually really good at the gym... when I hit the floor, people could be naked and I wouldnt even notice cause all I see are the next weights in my way and the sound of my ipod

the yoga pants get me on the way to the fountain =(