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    Actually the proper title and spelling is Fahrenhype 911. Try searching that AD. Sorry for the spelling error.

    And i use h t t p://kat.ph/usearch/fahrenhype%20911/"]http://kat.ph/usearch/fahrenhype%20911/ Paste this into your browser and it will take you straight to the link.

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    Will check it out. Thanks bro.

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    Anytime AD.

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    Wow, this will make many people questioning the bombing. Pretty cool mickey. ...crazy mike

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    Interesting stuff for sure, I'm sure we don't know everything about what happened but...... "fake blood" and "rubber legs"..... I don't think so, wouldn't someone see a guy throwing around fake blood..... too many witnesses for this to even be a remote possibility besides people were actually blown up..... no need to fake anything. As far as the backpack and other photos go.... who knows for sure but I say there are WAY to many people and agencies involved to pull off some sort of hoax just so they could pass CISPA, besides the commie bastard running this country does whatever the fvck he wants anyways so why would he need a distraction? Thanks for the post MK, it's good for us as citizens to question everything and practice a little critical thinking.

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    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...s-2626684.html

    Here is an article that was posted on my FB network. I do not have a side to take here I am only putting it out here for you all to digest.

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    The theories do nothing but get worse. Whoever came up with that ridiculous theory should be shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    The theories do nothing but get worse. Whoever came up with that ridiculous theory should be shot.
    Can you explain this? I can't.

    And keep a close eye on the little red cup, as well as the woman with the red sleeves, to see without a doubt the two photos have been taken literally seconds apart. Neither have been Photoshopped and both are mainstream photos from the media.

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    The issue i have is the exact same one i have with 911 and SandyHook. There is waaaaay to much peculiar evidence to suggest something doesn't add up. How can these two photos even exist if this is real??? And this is just the beginning..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Can you explain this? I can't.

    And keep a close eye on the little red cup, as well as the woman with the red sleeves, to see without a doubt the two photos have been taken literally seconds apart. Neither have been Photoshopped and both are mainstream photos from the media.

    BOSTONGATE!!! - 100% PROOF ACTORS WERE INVOLVED - YouTube

    The issue i have is the exact same one i have with 911 and SandyHook. There is waaaaay to much peculiar evidence to suggest something doesn't add up. How can these two photos even exist if this is real??? And this is just the beginning..
    Two different pics for sure taken at two different times. I think the second one was taken first because of where the person in the yellow shirt is at.

    Def makes your mind wonder

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    Two different pics for sure taken at two different times. I think the second one was taken first because of where the person in the yellow shirt is at.

    Def makes your mind wonder
    It doesn't matter which one was taken first. How did completely different people get into a photograph (or disappear) laying down injured, including the amputee??? Look at the red cup. It barely moves, but the people sure do. There is a woman in a red jacket who magically materializes (or disappears, depending on how you look at it) like a Star Wars crew member.

    Weird..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    It doesn't matter which one was taken first. How did completely different people get into a photograph (or disappear) laying down injured, including the amputee??? Look at the red cup. It barely moves, but the people sure do. There is a woman in a red jacket who magically materializes (or disappears, depending on how you look at it) like a Star Wars crew member.

    Weird..
    It's def weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    It's def weird
    If you haven't already, pay particular attention to the last 5 mins of this vid by a large mainstream media news center. Yes, i posted this above but i feel it warrants a second post.

    Uh oh! CNN Caught Red Handed Interviewing Crisis Actor twice : Boston False Flag - YouTube

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    The fact that the "evidence" is posted on youtube and not one single news agency thats reputable (including Al Jazeera) shows me all I need to know usually.

    You can see the guys bone from almost the first pick, but they're saying he should've bled out? Not to mention lower extremity wounds don't cause people to bleed out as fast as if they had nicked the femoral artery well above the knee.

    I'm sure there's still interesting factoids and snippets to come out about this, but to say the guy put on fake legs and spilled fake blood is just ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    The fact that the "evidence" is posted on youtube and not one single news agency thats reputable (including Al Jazeera) shows me all I need to know usually.

    You can see the guys bone from almost the first pick, but they're saying he should've bled out? Not to mention lower extremity wounds don't cause people to bleed out as fast as if they had nicked the femoral artery well above the knee.

    I'm sure there's still interesting factoids and snippets to come out about this, but to say the guy put on fake legs and spilled fake blood is just ridiculous.
    "They" also said that a few office fires collapsed a 47 story skyscraper. Believe what you wish. But if you continue to close your mind, your never see the light of day.

    I'll leave you with this to ponder..

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

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    closing one's mind and seeing things that aren't there are two different things though, Mickey. One could say that those who look for conspiracies in everything see what they want to see, and not the facts as presented. Again, for me, there's just too much wishful thinking for this to work. They came out with one theory, then that was dispelled. So now they have another, and another, and another... All for the sake of not wanting to believe that the govt. isn't actually out there to kill little 8 year old boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    closing one's mind and seeing things that aren't there are two different things though, Mickey. One could say that those who look for conspiracies in everything see what they want to see, and not the facts as presented. Again, for me, there's just too much wishful thinking for this to work. They came out with one theory, then that was dispelled. So now they have another, and another, and another... All for the sake of not wanting to believe that the govt. isn't actually out there to kill little 8 year old boys.
    Let me ask you another way. What about the 3000 killed during 911 and Building 7? You keep skipping over my comments and avoiding my questions on that. Is it possible that the Govt had a hand in that, but having knowledge or playing some role in the Boston bombing is too far fetched?

    If you have a list of twenty items that don't make any sense at all. But then you're able to explain away 15 of them. Does the remaining 5 not count? Should they be ignore? Is it unpatriotic to question what the Govt tells you to believe and instead chose to think for yourself? Again, just provoking some thought.

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    quick question. did the perps faked just this one "injury" or did they fake the whole 100+ of them and the 3 deaths? what about the hospital doctors and nurses? are they all in on it? if there was a real bomb, and if there were real injuries, why is there a need to fake any?

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    and if all the injuries are fake, and the bomb was just a flashbang, why do you need specops with caps and logos on the scene?

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    Good questions. Personally, I have no idea. Lots of questions, but not many convincing answers - only more questions based on the information given to the public.

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    The first reports are usually inaccurate simply cos nobody knows whats happening yet. The accuracy of subsequent reports will depend on the competence of the authorities and also the political climate, whether any advantage can be gained by manipulating the truths. Give it a few more days/wks to see if there is any change in the official story. But like 911, it may be very possible that we'll never know the whole truth.

    The clowns from the 911 era are long gone. With new clowns in power now, it will be rather disappointing if its true that they're still playing the same game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    Well that settles that then. So it wasn't the older bro being captured but instead another suspect they had while looking for all involved. Well it usually takes time for these things to sort all out. I hear now that a judge and his attorney have mirandized the younger brother and he is not talking anymore to the FBI, but before this he was singing like a canary.The FBI was delaying his miranda till they finished questioning him which was their right to do by law. But now he wont talk at all. But then who knows if what he says is even true. I say hook him up to a professional lie detector test.
    I dont give a shit about these absurd conspiracy theories, but I do care about constitutional protections. It was in fact not their "RIGHT" to fail to mirandize a suspect in custody. The "PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTION," can ONLY be used if there is an imminent threat to the safety of the public. After the suspects capture, BPD and FBI announced "The threat is over, Bostonians can go back to living their lives." Well, you see you cannot have it both ways, either the people of Boston are in impending grave danger, or they can go back about their business as the threat is over. For the public safety exception to be used, there has to be imminent and impending danger of another attack, for instance they have knowledge of other bombs planted within the city, he has an accomplice still on the loose on a shooting spree and they need to locate him. There is also no such thing either in law, or in practice, of a 48 hour moratorium on Miranda rights during the public safety exception, this was simply made up out of thin air by the Obama administration and Eric Holders DOJ, to suit their needs. This is Constitutional gerrymandering of the worst sort, that is because government is notorious for overstepping their prescribed legal authority, and once they have crossed that line, they almost never step back across it once the threat is over. I suspect, we shall see this '48 hour public safety exception' (which is a complete fabrication) used more and more frequently, and used in ever and ever less severe or dangerous situations.

    You can hate the crimes the suspect allegedly committed, as I do, but you must have a profound respect for the Constitutional protections which serve us all, and realize that making an exception "this one time," leads to the path down the slippery slope, where soon larger and larger swaths of the US populace are denied their Miranda warnings in trivial criminal situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post

    I dont give a shit about these absurd conspiracy theories, but I do care about constitutional protections. It was in fact not their "RIGHT" to fail to mirandize a suspect in custody. The "PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTION," can ONLY be used if there is an imminent threat to the safety of the public. After the suspects capture, BPD and FBI announced "The threat is over, Bostonians can go back to living their lives." Well, you see you cannot have it both ways, either the people of Boston are in impending grave danger, or they can go back about their business as the threat is over. For the public safety exception to be used, there has to be imminent and impending danger of another attack, for instance they have knowledge of other bombs planted within the city, he has an accomplice still on the loose on a shooting spree and they need to locate him. There is also no such thing either in law, or in practice, of a 48 hour moratorium on Miranda rights during the public safety exception, this was simply made up out of thin air by the Obama administration and Eric Holders DOJ, to suit their needs. This is Constitutional gerrymandering of the worst sort, that is because government is notorious for overstepping their prescribed legal authority, and once they have crossed that line, they almost never step back across it once the threat is over. I suspect, we shall see this '48 hour public safety exception' (which is a complete fabrication) used more and more frequently, and used in ever and ever less severe or dangerous situations.

    You can hate the crimes the suspect allegedly committed, as I do, but you must have a profound respect for the Constitutional protections which serve us all, and realize that making an exception "this one time," leads to the path down the slippery slope, where soon larger and larger swaths of the US populace are denied their Miranda warnings in trivial criminal situations.
    Well said, and I personally agree with your point of view.
    Your American constitution needs to be protected as well as does our Canadian at all times.

    The interrogators needed answers fast about other possible threats and accomplices. The accused's ability to inflict harm was clear as was the possibility of other bombings. Does this not warrant use of the moratorium?

    Regardless of the government telling the American people the threat is over to calm their edgy nerves they appeared to continue to work hard to ensure this is a true claim. Seems like due diligence in a potentially dangerous situation.

    If the accused was read his miranda rights immediately he would have said nothing as he is doing now and who knows how things could have played out.

    Can there not be exception to the rule while protecting the constitution at the same time? Seems as though your country is a target of terrorism and you guys need good answers fast in these situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Well said, and I personally agree with your point of view.
    Your American constitution needs to be protected as well as does our Canadian at all times.

    The interrogators needed answers fast about other possible threats and accomplices. The accused's ability to inflict harm was clear as was the possibility of other bombings. Does this not warrant use of the moratorium?

    Regardless of the government telling the American people the threat is over to calm their edgy nerves they appeared to continue to work hard to ensure this is a true claim. Seems like due diligence in a potentially dangerous situation.

    If the accused was read his miranda rights immediately he would have said nothing as he is doing now and who knows how things could have played out.

    Can there not be exception to the rule while protecting the constitution at the same time? Seems as though your country is a target of terrorism and you guys need good answers fast in these situations.
    One thing most people seem NOT to understand, is that reading his Miranda warnings is simply a REMINDER of his EXISTING 5th Amendment Constitutional protections. This moratorium on Mirandizing him does not STRIP HIM of his 5A protections, they simply did not read them to him to remind him of what is rights are. He could have exercised his Miranda Rights (5A protections against being compelled/coerced to incriminate ones self) without being read his rights. If he had simply said "I do not wish to answer any of your questions without the presence of my attorney," then by law ALL questioning must CEASE at that moment, and he cannot be asked any further questions. This is hence forth the reason that chickenhawk senators like Hanoi John and Lindsay Graham(one of the most contrite neo-conservative chickenhawks in the US Congress) were pushing for enemy combatant status. It was not so that he could be held for 30 days without charges, it was so "extra judicial interrogation" methods could be used on him, I.E.- TORTURE, which is illegal under the US Constitution and the Geneva Convention. Make no mistake, neither of those US Congressional Represenatives are Patriots, they are neo-con chickenhawks with absolutely no respect for the Constitution. They speak to the document when it suits their agenda, and ignore it when it does not. We may abhor what the suspects have done, but in this case, the suspect in custody is a United States citizen, with all of the inalienable rights as any other US citizen, and he must be afforded those rights as such. The executive branch cannot unilaterally strip people of citizenship to suit their agenda, we are a nation of LAWS, not of MEN.

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    The threat is over comment was said to notify the public the kid was in custody.

    The exception was used to question him about other accomplices, bombs, threats, etc. given his condition when first apprehended, it's understandable that his being mirandized was delayed.

    Lets also not forget that this administration had enough balls to stand up against a number of hawks that want his tried by a tribunal. He's getting a lawyer, who advised him recently not to talk to the FBI, and he's being tried in civil courts.
    Likely all of what he told the FBI will be inadmissible in court, so his rights were not violated.

    Much ado about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGM View Post
    The threat is over comment was said to notify the public the kid was in custody.

    The exception was used to question him about other accomplices, bombs, threats, etc. given his condition when first apprehended, it's understandable that his being mirandized was delayed.

    Lets also not forget that this administration had enough balls to stand up against a number of hawks that want his tried by a tribunal. He's getting a lawyer, who advised him recently not to talk to the FBI, and he's being tried in civil courts.
    Likely all of what he told the FBI will be inadmissible in court, so his rights were not violated.

    Much ado about nothing.
    Good point LGM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Good point LGM.
    I essentially parroted what you and godfather said. lol

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    My questions is this...
    Since when does a United States judge go to a hospital or anywhere else but a courtroom for that matter to mirandize a suspect? This is what happened here as both a public defender and a judge both went to Zhokars bedside hospital room to read hims his rights which right after he clammed up and never said another thing to the FBI who were interrogating him. I mean I have never ever heard of a judge going to a hospital bedside to mirandize a suspect. And who in the government sent the judge to do this? This is the strangest thing so far that I have heard about this case....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    My questions is this...
    Since when does a United States judge go to a hospital or anywhere else but a courtroom for that matter to mirandize a suspect? This is what happened here as both a public defender and a judge both went to Zhokars bedside hospital room to read hims his rights which right after he clammed up and never said another thing to the FBI who were interrogating him. I mean I have never ever heard of a judge going to a hospital bedside to mirandize a suspect. And who in the government sent the judge to do this? This is the strangest thing so far that I have heard about this case....
    they probably did it so that his lawyers couldn't question the interrogator integrity and who more honest then a judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    My questions is this...
    Since when does a United States judge go to a hospital or anywhere else but a courtroom for that matter to mirandize a suspect? This is what happened here as both a public defender and a judge both went to Zhokars bedside hospital room to read hims his rights which right after he clammed up and never said another thing to the FBI who were interrogating him. I mean I have never ever heard of a judge going to a hospital bedside to mirandize a suspect. And who in the government sent the judge to do this? This is the strangest thing so far that I have heard about this case....
    Last I heard it was the judge who took it upon himself to do it; nobody at the FBI or LE asked for it. More examples of judges doing taking things into their own hands, instead of just sitting on the bench and deciding how to apply the rule of law. And unless it's requested, it doesn't really happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    My questions is this...
    Since when does a United States judge go to a hospital or anywhere else but a courtroom for that matter to mirandize a suspect? This is what happened here as both a public defender and a judge both went to Zhokars bedside hospital room to read hims his rights which right after he clammed up and never said another thing to the FBI who were interrogating him. I mean I have never ever heard of a judge going to a hospital bedside to mirandize a suspect. And who in the government sent the judge to do this? This is the strangest thing so far that I have heard about this case....
    There have been a number of 'special circumstances' applied to this case. When we start changing the rules for ONE case, little stops us from changing the rules for other cases. We must stick to our principles, lest we be left with none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    I dont give a shit about these absurd conspiracy theories, but I do care about constitutional protections. It was in fact not their "RIGHT" to fail to mirandize a suspect in custody. The "PUBLIC SAFETY EXCEPTION," can ONLY be used if there is an imminent threat to the safety of the public. After the suspects capture, BPD and FBI announced "The threat is over, Bostonians can go back to living their lives." Well, you see you cannot have it both ways, either the people of Boston are in impending grave danger, or they can go back about their business as the threat is over. For the public safety exception to be used, there has to be imminent and impending danger of another attack, for instance they have knowledge of other bombs planted within the city, he has an accomplice still on the loose on a shooting spree and they need to locate him. There is also no such thing either in law, or in practice, of a 48 hour moratorium on Miranda rights during the public safety exception, this was simply made up out of thin air by the Obama administration and Eric Holders DOJ, to suit their needs. This is Constitutional gerrymandering of the worst sort, that is because government is notorious for overstepping their prescribed legal authority, and once they have crossed that line, they almost never step back across it once the threat is over. I suspect, we shall see this '48 hour public safety exception' (which is a complete fabrication) used more and more frequently, and used in ever and ever less severe or dangerous situations.

    You can hate the crimes the suspect allegedly committed, as I do, but you must have a profound respect for the Constitutional protections which serve us all, and realize that making an exception "this one time," leads to the path down the slippery slope, where soon larger and larger swaths of the US populace are denied their Miranda warnings in trivial criminal situations.
    Don't get me wrong here I'm not saying it's right by us but it seems it's right by their law. In other words the gov't is making and changing our our rights and laws faster than we can keep up. This all seemed to start after 9-1-1 as George Bush decided to eliminate our rights and freedoms for our safety without neither our knowledge nor consent. and it has continued to spiral out of control since. IMO. And I can't stand to hear some on fox tell us that we need to surrender more of our liberties to protect our nation in this post 9-1-1 environment. I say BS! We are a nation of , by and for the people and when we give up all that, then we are no better than a communist nation...IMO!

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