What is the difference between justice and revenge?

[belva]

What would you say it is the difference between justice and revenge?

[--->>405<<---]

the motive driving justice is pure

the motive driving revenge is NOT

[belva]

the motive driving justice is pure

the motive driving revenge is NOT

I have hard time to understand what is pure in certain situations, could you define pure ?

[austinite]

I don't get your question....

Justice is a justifiable reaction, meaning fair and reasonable. (Calling 911 and having a thief arrested is justice)

Revenge is purposely inflicting some sort of harm as a reaction. (Taking a gun and shooting a thief is revenge)

[--->>405<<---]

I have hard time to understand what is pure in certain situations, could you define pure ?

no.. look it up..

[austinite]

lol.

[belva]

I don't get your question....

Justice is a justifiable reaction, meaning fair and reasonable.

Revenge is purposely inflicting some sort of harm as a reaction.

So any reaction with intent to make the other part experiencing the same is revenge, no matter what harm has been inflicted before?

[belva]

no.. look it up..

too bad I can't push the like button on this comment

[austinite]

So any reaction with intent to make the other part experiencing the same is revenge, no matter what harm has been inflicted before?

WHAT?? no. Experience HARM, not the same. Giving someone a gift because they gave you a gift is not revenge.

You a caveman?

[Flagg]

It depends on the perspective.

Revenge is a personal action. A father kills the man that rapes his daughter, that's his revenge, in the eyes of many and certainly the father, justice has been served.

In less emotional situations, justice is something the Law takes care of.

[belva]

WHAT?? no. Experience HARM, not the same. Giving someone a gift because they gave you a gift is not revenge.

You a caveman?

OK, it looks like you didn't get my message, let me see if I can be more clear. I meant any form of harm. I mean what can be considered a justifiable reaction? Is it anything that doesn't harm another individual? what if words can harm someone.

[belva]

It depends on the perspective.

Revenge is a personal action. A father kills the man that rapes his daughter, that's his revenge, in the eyes of many and certainly the father, justice has been served.

In less emotional situations, justice is something the Law takes care of.

So I think is still revenge if the daughter castrate the man who rape her.? but probabily those are situation that the law can take care of...
My interest was in those situations that are lighter where the law is not used.

[Lunk1]

If it's done out of spite it's revenge
If it's punishment without spiteful motive...it's justice

[FONZY007]

I don't get your question....

Justice is a justifiable reaction, meaning fair and reasonable. (Calling 911 and having a thief arrested is justice)

Revenge is purposely inflicting some sort of harm as a reaction. (Taking a gun and shooting a thief is revenge)

See I disagree, he breaks into my home he is dead!! Killing him is justice in my eyes lol

[FONZY007]

If it's done out of spite it's revenge
If it's punishment without spiteful motive...it's justice

That sums it up clearly!!

[austinite]

See I disagree, he breaks into my home he is dead!! Killing him is justice in my eyes lol

Yeah.. I would to. But that is not justice by definition.

[bdos]

See I disagree, he breaks into my home he is dead!! Killing him is justice in my eyes lol

Dont forget the second shot in the ceiling for the "warning shot"

[crazy mike]

If it's done out of spite it's revenge
If it's punishment without spiteful motive...it's justice

I like that...motive is mostly what comes to my mine. Do I want do something that will cause pain, injury or what ever, ya know because it is needed or because it is the law or is it because it will make me feel better. I will have some pleasure in doing whatever. I will make some one hurt more than me, because, well I want to feel better and maybe eas my pain. MOTIVE DUDE.....crazy mike

[CHUDmac]

I don't get your question....

Justice is a justifiable reaction, meaning fair and reasonable. (Calling 911 and having a thief arrested is justice)

Revenge is purposely inflicting some sort of harm as a reaction. (Taking a gun and shooting a thief is revenge)

Taking a gun and shooting a thief could also be self-defense, such as outlined in the Castle Doctrine.

Justice is thought of as positive and law-abiding. The legal system doing its job: the police catch someone, the courts try them, the verdict is carried out.
Revenge is thought of more as a negative thing. A selfish act carried out to have your own needs fulfilled for, in your own eyes, having been wronged. Revenge is where we take the place of the legal system.

[Flagg]

So I think is still revenge if the daughter castrate the man who rape her.? but probabily those are situation that the law can take care of...
My interest was in those situations that are lighter where the law is not used.

Another way to seperate revenge and justice are degrees of satisfaction with the end result of either.

it: if the victim and the attacker bleeds out, shes a murderer and her life is over. Here it is to be assumed that the law will do the right thing.

Revenge is often driven. By rage, pure and simple.

[songdog]

Thats a fine line there bro.I walked it many times in my younger dayz.I am more careful now beacuse my wife was all over my ash about laywers fees But I had fun

[austinite]

Taking a gun and shooting a thief could also be self-defense, such as outlined in the Castle Doctrine.

Justice is thought of as positive and law-abiding. The legal system doing its job: the police catch someone, the courts try them, the verdict is carried out.
Revenge is thought of more as a negative thing. A selfish act carried out to have your own needs fulfilled for, in your own eyes, having been wronged. Revenge is where we take the place of the legal system.

No it's not. That's not what I said and that is not my example.

Anyway...

There are a billion scenarios. The point is, what we deem acceptable may not be related to its definition. So if I shoot someone who killed my daughter, to me that is justice. But by definition, that is revenge. How you feel about your own reaction does NOT define the word. It defines your personal feelings.

[DOSA]

watch Law Abiding Citizen....

I think that covers it...

[Heath48]

here are a few different scenarios...... usually justice makes you feel satisfied in the end, where as revenge usually ends up biting you in the a** "at least from my experience"


Justice- Your girlfriend/wife cheats on you, you break up and move on
- Your girlfriend/wife cheats on you, you break up and the next guy she is with cheats on her.... also Karma

Revenge- Your girlfriend/wife cheats on you and you stay with her to cheat on her
- Your girlfriend/wife cheats on you and you sleep with her best friend

[songdog]

Well another way to look at it is.
if you get caught its revenge if not its justice.Just Sayin