Act of terrorism in UK

**austinite** · 05-23-2013, 01:14 AM

Wtf!

**scorpion62** · 05-23-2013, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWSnzmP9Wk

What a fvcking tool

**dirtyman** · 05-23-2013, 03:44 AM

To all those sayin they would have stepped in. You wouldn't have. The shock and horror of it would have taken over half of you. And the fact they where so brutal and running around like lunatics with these weapons scream and shouting, beheading and stabbing someone I the street. To take them on would have meant your death too. No matter how hard or big you think you are! There's alot of racism flying around Facebook and twitter ATM, it's not good!

**panntastic** · 05-23-2013, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by dirtyman

To all those sayin they would have stepped in. You wouldn't have. The shock and horror of it would have taken over half of you. And the fact they where so brutal and running around like lunatics with these weapons scream and shouting, beheading and stabbing someone I the street. To take them on would have meant your death too. No matter how hard or big you think you are! There's alot of racism flying around Facebook and twitter ATM, it's not good!

Buddy I've been stabbed at shot at beaten with bats bottles knuckle dusters and that's in my job
I've been to hell and back when I say I would of stepped in trust me I would of stepped in
I've had a sawn off shotgun pointed in my face at work
I was back there the next day I'm not a thrill seeker but things don't seem to scare me like others.
I probably had fear beaten out of me as a kid

**scorpion62** · 05-23-2013, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Buddy I've been stabbed at shot at beaten with bats bottles knuckle dusters and that's in my job
I've been to hell and back when I say I would of stepped in trust me I would of stepped in
I've had a sawn off shotgun pointed in my face at work
I was back there the next day I'm not a thrill seeker but things don't seem to scare me like others.
I probably had fear beaten out of me as a kid

Hard going in asda mate lol

**panntastic** · 05-23-2013, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by scorpion62

Hard going in asda mate lol

Them trolleys will not collect themselves

**scorpion62** · 05-23-2013, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Them trolleys will not collect themselves

LMAO so true mate

**Flagg** · 05-23-2013, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Im not even english and this angers me.. I truly hate these extremists!!!! Government's need to start taking a eye for a eye aproach such as carpet bombing entire citys in these terrorists homeland I bet this guy are not even born in england so who knows how long they planned this attack for. Multi cultism is never 100% perfect. Rest in peace soilder.

Have to agree with this. Decreasingly becoming sick of islamic fanaticism in the world. When they dont want to see the end of the West or Israel, they soon turn on themselves. I mean most extreme Muslims hate their own brothers, palestinians and pakistani's.

I used to be someone that said that not all muslims are bad, and im sure most aren't, but I hate the "blind eye" approach to this, not enough liberal or western muslims come forward and condemn this shit.

**Euroholic** · 05-23-2013, 04:45 AM

Can someone explain to me the gun policy of english police? I thought they didn't carry them?

**marcus300** · 05-23-2013, 04:46 AM

Shut the gates and let the ATP (Anti-Terrorist Police) & SOCA round them up and deal with them,

We know who most are so lets arrest and deal with the issue instead of always skating around the main issues only to try and keep the peace, we are not getting peace its war on the streets.

**Back In Black** · 05-23-2013, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Can someone explain to me the gun policy of english police? I thought they didn't carry them?

They don't. British forces have an Armed Response Unit. They are called when they are needed, a sect group of highly trained firearms officers from each force.

**Back In Black** · 05-23-2013, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Shut the gates and let the ATP (Anti-Terrorist Police) & SOCA round them up and deal with them,

We know who most are so lets arrest and deal with the issue instead of always skating around the main issues only to try and keep the peace, we are not getting peace its war on the streets.

Round them all up, put them in a field, and bomb the bastards.

(You're old enough to remember that

)

**marcus300** · 05-23-2013, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Can someone explain to me the gun policy of english police? I thought they didn't carry them?

police officers do not carry firearms or they may do under special circumstances if they are trained. Every force can also call upon the Force Firearm Units and Armed Response Vehicle who deal with firearm offences.

**Flagg** · 05-23-2013, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Euroholic

Can someone explain to me the gun policy of english police? I thought they didn't carry them?

It's much like the same as yours, most people on farms are allowed to own a shotgun, etc... no one is allowed automatic fire arms.

**kelkel** · 05-23-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Back In Black

They don't. British forces have an Armed Response Unit. They are called when they are needed, a sect group of highly trained firearms officers from each force.

But isn't that "after the fact" in most situations. Unless it's a raid or something? If this shit keeps up their policies will change.

**Back In Black** · 05-23-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

But isn't that "after the fact" in most situations. Unless it's a raid or something? If this shit keeps up their policies will change.

Yes Kel, they are called when required. Some times they may get there before the shit kicks off sometimes not. Yesterday took around 20 minutes!

**krugerr** · 05-23-2013, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

But isn't that "after the fact" in most situations. Unless it's a raid or something? If this shit keeps up their policies will change.

Pretty much buddy. They're not really out and about. They just wait for situations to arise, then they're called in. I agree that it should change, but if we give the rights to all police officers to carry firearms, where does it stop? There will be a lot more shootings, gangs will realise that they need to use theres more and its just a downward spiral. Guns arent that hard to get hold of in the UK if you know the right people. All plastic gangsters have them now.

My brother does security at a miltary site, and although they have Military Police on the gates, armed with SA-80's, there is a proper armed response unit on watch 24/7 and they literally sit, geared up in a rec room watching TV, they have a gym that they can use, but they stay in there gear (combats, weapons in side pouches etc). But there job is really to sit and wait, all day, every day.

**marcus300** · 05-23-2013, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

But isn't that "after the fact" in most situations. Unless it's a raid or something? If this shit keeps up their policies will change.

In the gang areas they will always have a ARV driving around due to the amount of shooting there is in this kind of community but other than that they are called upon when needed or here of any incidents with firearms.

**Flagg** · 05-23-2013, 08:52 AM

**kelkel** · 05-23-2013, 08:55 AM

The ARV thing sounds good but the "when needed" thing doesn't fly with me. Scary. The old adage comes to mind: "Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."

**krugerr** · 05-23-2013, 10:57 AM

The young man that was killed had been named. He was a drummer, aged 25.

**qbizm** · 05-23-2013, 11:14 AM

I'm glad the conversation here is civilised. Other forums are full of folks spouting hate filled racial bile. Some real foul opinions.

Do any of you think this incident qualifies as a terrorist attack? Or does it seem more like a murder wrapped in a half hearted message of the moment?

**Flagg** · 05-23-2013, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by qbizm

I'm glad the conversation here is civilised. Other forums are full of folks spouting hate filled racial bile. Some real foul opinions.

Do any of you think this incident qualifies as a terrorist attack? Or does it seem more like a murder wrapped in a half hearted message of the moment?

It was a political statement about Western foreign policy, the two murderers claiming that what was witnessed, is every day occurances in western occupied countries.