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    B.A. in Political Science (concentration in Constitutional Law&Interpretation), graduate degree in Medical Sciences (Physiology), and another degree currently in progress.

    BTW, those who do extremely well in college, with regards to high grade point averages, are not always necessarily those who are the most intelligent. In college it is not always that person which is most intelligent who does well, but rather, that person who tries the hardest and does the work. Additionally, I have found, that in undergraduate course studies, success is often found in being able to understand what particular information your professor wishes for you to regurgitate to him/her in the form of a test, paper, or project.

    Those who say that most people they know who are high earners, are making such statements via anecdotes from their lives. Statistically, a person in the United States who holds a degree in higher education will earn more over their lifetime, and those with high school educations who earn more than those with degrees in higher education are, in fact, the exception rather than the rule.

    Holding a degree in higher education does not empirically make one person 'better' than another person. However, a person who does possess such education, does tend to be a more well rounded and well read individual than those who do not, especially with regards to those who hold degrees in liberal arts and the social sciences. I don't believe that people are segregated based on what letters they have after their names, but rather, a better metric for judging individuals and self segregating, is based on socioeconomic status, which is irrespective of whether one holds a degree or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    B.A. in Political Science (concentration in Constitutional Law&Interpretation), graduate degree in Medical Sciences (Physiology), and another degree currently in progress.

    BTW, those who do extremely well in college, with regards to high grade point averages, are not always necessarily those who are the most intelligent. In college it is not always that person which is most intelligent who does well, but rather, that person who tries the hardest and does the work. Additionally, I have found, that in undergraduate course studies, success is often found in being able to understand what particular information your professor wishes for you to regurgitate to him/her in the form of a test, paper, or project.

    Those who say that most people they know who are high earners, are making such statements via anecdotes from their lives. Statistically, a person in the United States who holds a degree in higher education will earn more over their lifetime, and those with high school educations who earn more than those with degrees in higher education are, in fact, the exception rather than the rule.

    Holding a degree in higher education does not empirically make one person 'better' than another person. However, a person who does possess such education, does tend to be a more well rounded and well read individual than those who do not, especially with regards to those who hold degrees in liberal arts and the social sciences. I don't believe that people are segregated based on what letters they have after their names, but rather, a better metric for judging individuals and self segregating, is based on socioeconomic status, which is irrespective of whether one holds a degree or not.
    The only letters worth having after ones name is VC none of us will ever get that!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Im curious do people with degrees look down on non degree people as common?
    Definitely not and I know plenty of people that have been successful without acquiring a degree.

    I have a degree in BsC Environmental Science. For awhile I was beginning to think it's not done me any good but that's because i've been focussing on the ecology side of it. Now that I have been looking at the other half, sustainability, energy, environmental policy, the things that really do matter, some opportunities are coming my way.

    University is also an experience in itself

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    Cool idea for a thread! I studied 2 years of a Marine Engineering degree with the Royal Navy. I decided that this wasnt really the future I wanted, I left, went to college, got my A-level qualifications and I am now going into my 3rd and final year of an Electronic Engineering degree. Ive now discovered this isnt my passion either, I am currently looking at open university courses in nutrition/dietitian, and possibly do a few personal training qualifications.

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    Intelligence and degrees do not always go hand in hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

    Even if your major is something like EE. School isn't about being brilliant, it's just about spending the necessary time to get the job done. Anybody willing to take the time can learn how to do calculus or write a paper. Being able to apply that effectively in the real world, that is another story.

    There is no shortage of morons with engineering degrees. There are also plenty of idiot doctors out there too. If being intelligent was a requirement for college, there wouldn't be any of those.
    Bahahahaha, def not a shortage of morons! That is a fact!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    How would you feel if your doctor only had a two year degree and no internship (like what is common in Afghanistan)
    Actually, "medical school" didn't actually become a hard and fast requirement until a study sponsored by the Rockefellers and Carnegies found that only a limited number of medical schools were providing a "satisfactory" medical education. (Those colleges that were found acceptable are ones in which the Rockefellers and Carnegies had financial interest.) Until this study a majority of doctors were educated and licensed through apprenticeship. During this time frame (Pre-1935ish) you knew which doctors were good and which weren't by who was the most affluent. Because of the apprenticeship programs, medical care was a free market where the doctors that made the most were the ones that took the best care of their patients. This study is also how the AMA rose to the levels of power it now has.

    Now, to answer the OP... I have several professional licenses or certifications in the medical field. I am currently pursuing a series of degrees that will provide me with numerous other licenses and certifications that will eventually culminate in me receiving a medical degree. I actually prefer apprenticeship and self-guided study since I learn most things quickly and easily. With self-guided study I can take as much time as I need to understand things that are difficult for me, and those things that I understand quickly can be moved past as soon as I understand them.

    Having said all of that, I am constantly studying new things. The things I study are as diverse as mechanics, wine, computer programming, needlework, cultural studies, and medicine. I've been certified as a chef, a direct entry midwife, an EMT, a CNA, a CPR instructor, a disaster relief specialist, an herbalist, and several other things. I love to learn new things, but I only take "classes" in something when it's required for me to actually have access to the information I want to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringndaheat View Post
    Live the pump thts a very cool degree. Wht did u find to be the hardest course and wht was ur favorite?
    As for degrees or not degreed I've meet extremely intelligent people tht don't have a degree.
    Alright guys if u had to do it again wht would u do or study?
    The most difficult course for me was Physics. I am great at math however bringing science into the equation made it a very challenging class for me. This was one of my very few "C" classes. Sad thing is I worked hard to get that C.

    My favorite classes of course were the Aviation one's. Learning about flying always intrigued to me. Oh and of course all the physical education classes were among my favorites.

    What are you doing with your business degree? Congrats on the MBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    little secret?

    the only ones that say this are the individuals who do not have degrees.

    The reality is those with degrees will command higher salaries than those without degrees.

    Why would you want to handicap yourself by not investing in a 4 year degree?
    Very well said sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Because i earn 200k a year and my mates who went to uni are on 60-80k why waste 4 years studying when i can work my guts out earning bulk coin?
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    Things might be diffrent in your country but in aus people with out degrees get paid alot more than people that have them. The mining resorce and construction industry pay big dollars
    People don't just get a degree to make more money. I dropped out of high school my junior year to go make money. I thought all those suckers going to school while I make money. I always wanted to work with my hands and have my own construction business.

    Well after about 5 years in construction, laying brick at the time, I decided to go back to school. I was in young 20's making almost 20/hour. Which ten years ago was good money. I decided to go to school and get an education so I didn't have to be around losers all day. Most of the guys I worked with just wanted to smoke weed all day among other sh*t. Then get drunk every night and stick their penis in anything that would accept it.

    I got tired of being around the same deadbeat people. I decided to go to school get an education, better myself, my surroundings, and the people I associate with. I didn't go to college to make more money. You can take a lot of things away from me, but not my education. Besides college was one of the greatest times of my life!!!!

    My Dad was a contractor all his life, my brother is in construction, many other family members and friends of mine are in construction as well. In other words I am not dogging on everyone in construction. There is just a large percentage of those guys that are not going anywhere and I don't associate with people like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    little secret?

    the only ones that say this are the individuals who do not have degrees.

    The reality is those with degrees will command higher salaries than those without degrees.

    Why would you want to handicap yourself by not investing in a 4 year degree?
    Not so much. I don't have a degree and I knock down more a month than 99% of the people with degrees knock down a year. The most successful people I know don't have a degree . But then again I also work 15-20 hours a day and deal with more stress than I want to.

    I know tons of people who got their degrees and got themselves in a ton of debt. Then at the end of the day the majority of them make about the same as the others that don't have degrees.

    Degrees are good to have but not needed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    i never went to college. Degrees don't pay the best
    No need to go if u live in Australia. Working at the grocery story pays 22 dollars a hour.

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    I got a degree is Film. Is it required in the field? Nope. Was it for me? Oh hell yeah. Did it pay off? yep. I was interning on a show. There was another intern who had been on months longer. When a paid position opened up it was given to me "because I had the degree", according to the Production Manager.

    While a degree is not required to make money, there are plenty of jobs out there that pay bucks and don't require a degree. But for some people, myself included, want to learn. I read all the time. Taking classes all the time. I'm in an online one right now. And no a degree is not required to "learn" but going to college exposes you to many other classes and information not readily available.

    Oh and no I don't look down on people without degrees, there are plenty of dumbasses with and without them for me to look down upon.

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    There are many reasons to go to school and get a degree and not just money. For many who have gone it has possibly opened up their eyes to the world, some know more about the world, have learned to write, calculate , project theories, learn how to debate and to understand others. For many that don't their world is small or smaller and confined to just what they do and what they have done and what their parents and church have taught them. In many cases we might say that one who doesn't just might be living in a bubble. NOW PLEASE, read what I've said not what I haven't said. I said, some, many and more than not. I did NOT say all or even the vast majority, so don't get your panties in a wad.

    You can find a guy that works in the field in construction, a tree trimmer or what ever maybe even in some janitorial world of work and if they have gone to college 2 -4 yrs can be very sophisticated people with class and know much about the world even when their immediate world is small and they have never gone anywhere.

    I worked in construction since I was young. I was in the field and worked up into some form of management in and out of the offices. I went to junior college and studied BCN part time. I when to the U of F and studied BCN. I did not get a degree but because of my book studying I was able to study in short order for the EXAM to be a Licensed Certified General Contractor. It was a combination of field and school that enabled me to pass the test first go. Many College Graduates don't pass because they have limited field experience.

    So I think college is important and everyone should give it a try ( exceptions of course) and get a least two years under their belt while they mature. It helps to make you more worldly and capable of learning more in any given circumstance. ...crazy mike
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    I'm in banking but I'm surly different than most of them. If I had to to do over again I would have been a defense attorney. I love to argue/debate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Even if your major is something like EE. School isn't about being brilliant, it's just about spending the necessary time to get the job done. Anybody willing to take the time can learn how to do calculus or write a paper. Being able to apply that effectively in the real world, that is another story.

    There is no shortage of morons with engineering degrees. There are also plenty of idiot doctors out there too. If being intelligent was a requirement for college, there wouldn't be any of those.
    Find me an unintelligent theoretical physics graduate, especially one from a prestigious school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bringndaheat View Post
    I'm in banking but I'm surly different than most of them. If I had to to do over again I would have been a defense attorney. I love to argue/debate!
    I should introduce you to my ex.

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    ^^^my ex is a DA. She prosecutes child molesters! Carries a gun the whole nine yards. When we divorced she even took my dog! He was a Dan good lab. I really miss driving wth her. i could drive as fast as I wanted and if I got pulled over out came the badge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Things might be diffrent in your country but in aus people with out degrees get paid alot more than people that have them. The mining resorce and construction industry pay big dollars
    Even in America most union jobs in the construction industry pay over 100 grand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    Being a college graduate doesn't mean that you are intelligent or even have any sort of common sense. However; statistically, people with college degrees make more money than people who didn't graduate/attend.

    When you try to use yourself as the proof that you don't need to be educated to be successful, you're really not helping your perspective at all. You're not the rule there, you're the exception as most people without educations AREN'T successful.

    For most higher paying jobs, to even get looked at for interview consideration, you need the paper credentials.

    And to be honest, college really isn't even difficult to succeed at. It's just a matter of going and getting the work done. You know how many graduates spent the majority of their class time hung over or drunk?

    I for one enjoyed my time in college. I didn't go hoping that it'd garner me a high paying job, I went because of interest in my choice field and had an opportunity to study with people in that field that I highly respected and admired. What I learned in my time there, some could argue could be learned outside, but I never would've had that chance.
    A lot. That's painfully obvious whenever my company is hiring. Masters degrees, can't even spell.

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