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06-26-2013, 08:07 PM #1
Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982
What are your thoughts on the death penalty?
Kimberly McCarthy, who was put to death for the murder of her 71-year-old neighbor, was also the first woman executed in the U.S. in nearly three years.
McCarthy, 52, was executed for the 1997 robbery, beating and fatal stabbing of retired college psychology professor Dorothy Booth. Booth had agreed to give McCarthy a cup of sugar before she was attacked with a butcher knife and candelabra at her home in Lancaster, about 15 miles south of Dallas. Authorities say McCarthy cut off Booth's finger to remove her wedding ring.
It was among three slayings linked to McCarthy, a former nursing home therapist who became addicted to crack cocaine.
She was pronounced dead at 6:37 p.m. CDT, 20 minutes after Texas prison officials began administering a single lethal dose of pentobarbital.
In her final statement, McCarthy did not mention her status as the 500th inmate to be executed or acknowledge Booth or her family.
"This is not a loss. This is a win. You know where I'm going. I'm going home to Jesus. I love you all," she said, while looking toward her witnesses, who included her ex-husband, her attorney and her spiritual adviser.
Read more: Texas carries out its 500th execution since 1982 | Fox News
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06-26-2013, 08:17 PM #2
Caylee Anthony’s mom should have been sentenced to death. Prisoners that are given life or a sentence so long that they will never be allowed to be a productive member of society should be given the option of being put to death.
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06-26-2013, 08:19 PM #3
Soooo what did she eat ?
I believe the death penalty should be mandatory in every state. Can you imagine the lack of violent crime/murder if everyone who committed murder would be put to death?
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06-26-2013, 08:20 PM #4~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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06-26-2013, 08:25 PM #5
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06-26-2013, 08:34 PM #6
lol..looks like the prison industrial complex got 16yrs of income out of the deal.
I'm sorry but holding filth for 16yrs before executing them is a joke, but hey..money has to be made. Prison is a big business afterall, can't lose profits.***No source checks!!!***
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06-26-2013, 08:35 PM #7
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06-26-2013, 09:28 PM #8
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06-26-2013, 09:53 PM #9
Yeah. Most people's annual salary is less than the yearly cost to house an inmate.
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06-26-2013, 09:57 PM #10
Tons of prisons are private and they make a absolute fortune! Private prisons r the wave of the future.
As for executions oh yeah just kill thm faster! I'm all for swift justice. If there is not a shadow of a doubt if someone did it thn done like dinner! Child molesters should be killed on the spot! Same wth killers!
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06-26-2013, 10:01 PM #11
Private prisons are a great idea for heavily populated areas but a rural prisons are over crowded as well and would never be profitable for a private company.
Its easy to say hurry and kill em but there is an appeal process for a reason. There are innocent ppl who have gone to prison.
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06-26-2013, 10:05 PM #12Originally Posted by austinite
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06-26-2013, 10:15 PM #13
^^^^its 66k a year. At least it was a few years ago. Side note u can put a private prison anywhere and make a ass ton. They bring the prisoners to the prison not tht prison to the prisoners.
I understand the appeal process very well. Was married to a DA. If there r several eyewitness and or video then done. Child molesters the r caught more thn once done! Until you've been to some of these trails it's hard to explain the evil!! We pay way to much to house the guilty!
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06-26-2013, 10:16 PM #14Originally Posted by bringndaheat
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06-26-2013, 10:17 PM #15
Btw private prisons r cheaper thn govy at cost level.
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06-26-2013, 10:17 PM #16
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06-26-2013, 10:20 PM #17Originally Posted by Lunk1
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06-26-2013, 10:28 PM #18
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06-26-2013, 10:30 PM #19Originally Posted by Lunk1
I'm gonna need many more guns. Many much more guns!!!!!!!!!
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06-26-2013, 10:52 PM #20
The average cost to incarcerate a prisoner varies from state to state. I believe it is around $45,000 in California. Over half of the costs are security and administration costs. I am not trying to defend prisoners, but it is not as great as some people try and paint it. Personally, I have conflicting opinions on the death penalty. Many of the reasons I have for the death penalty are very different than that of others. It seems like a lot of the people I talk to who support the death penalty don't support it for the right reasons, or they can't even logically defend their stance (that's not a shot at anyone here).
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06-26-2013, 10:55 PM #21
I think it's easy to make the call on a stranger. I think a lot of people would think differently if it were a loved one on row.
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06-26-2013, 11:24 PM #22
I completely understand the death penalty and completely think we should use it more! I also would not want my family member locked up in a cage or killed. But wth tht said I have seen to many trails wth people tht r pure evil and have no remorse for there crimes. These types need to be removed. The guy tht shot everyone in the movie theatre. Does he really need or deserve a trail... HELL NO! Take tht sick freak out back and kill him. The trail and all it entails will cost taxpayers over a million dollars. As for the median price for a inmate it was 66k. The cost by the way is going up not down!
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06-27-2013, 01:01 AM #23
Yes. The process should be much quicker and the death slow. Bring back disembowelment and drawing / quartering. If the fear of a gruesome, painful death was in place People would probably be better behaved. What punishment is putting someone to sleep peacefully? Phhht.
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06-27-2013, 02:28 AM #24Originally Posted by Java Man
Mom always spoke her mind. Lol
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06-27-2013, 02:48 AM #25
I'm against executions. And I don't care what the cost is to house those scumbags, it's not worth lowering myself to their level by taking their lives. The second you take their life, you become just as bad as them. We rationalize our blood-lust and desire for revenge by crying "justice," but does killing them right the wrongs they did? You'll never have justice no matter how many murderers and perverts you execute. It just doesn't undo what they did.
Besides, having to live with the weight of the acts you commit is worse than death.
And how many innocent men have wrongly be convicted of murder? If you want to see how unreliable witness testimony is, watch that Brain Games episode on it. Or watch the episode of Bullshit on forensics. Granted, most of those guys on death row DID their crimes, but there are people who are truly innocent there. I'd rather let every murderer go free before I condemn one innocent man to death.
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06-27-2013, 04:48 AM #26Banned for repping Dangerous Substances
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The death penalty was due to the charge of MURDER, MURDER In that case, what are you saying, stooping to their level.
FOR ME it was written in the Bible that the PUNISHMENT for MURDER is DEATH. So for only that reason, and the reason being MURDER the death penalty is death.
We all have our a$$ holes intact an so we have an Opinion. Mine is based on tour laws and that of Scripture. Also in regard to the money you so freely give away. Indirectly I can't get more help ( I'm on SSD) did I say that right Soc. Sec. DISABILITY and families are going without (indirectly but tech) because the state's money is going to house, hospitalize, feed, give medicine and on, and on to this scum that murders. Oh how much money have you put into the state taxes Fe taxes. I had a HIGH paying job for years and PAID to society etc.. and you want to give indirectly some of my money too support this scum, MURDERER. "THE punishment for MURDER is what ? Get in touch with the reality of life.
Jail, prison after a while gets real, or can get real cozy wit A/C laundry free medicine, hell they don't have to cook or clean the plates. Have you been in there. Just sometimes a man/woman can get real comfortable in there. You murder you get death. ...crazy not, mike
You think this "Besides, having to live with the weight of the acts you commit is worse than death" I have seen and in most cases NOT TRUE bud...just not true.Last edited by crazy mike; 06-27-2013 at 04:51 AM.
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06-27-2013, 04:59 AM #27
That eye for an eye stuff in the old testament, Jesus didn't approve of....
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."
- Matthew 5:38-5:42
And in the gospel of Luke:
"But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."
- Luke 6:27-31
It's not our right to take another man's life. You can justify it any way you want, it's not ever going to be right. And really is there a way you can honestly guarantee that the convict isn't innocent?
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06-27-2013, 05:06 AM #28
Well done HK. For a moment i thought you were 405 lol.
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06-27-2013, 05:16 AM #29
Where i am from, we have death by hanging. Execution typically get carried out within a couple years. I have no strong opinion either way, but i lean towards a tooth for a tooth. The Jesus' way is how we should behave as individuals, towards others. But as a country, from the government's point of view, we definitely need strict laws to keep people and things in order.
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06-27-2013, 05:29 AM #30
In the UK the death penalty is only available for serving forces members that commit treason. I very much doubt it would actually be enforced however.
Personally, I feel that the death penalty of a great choice, provided that a guilty verdict is 100% certain.
If somebody has been sentenced to a life in prison without the chance to get out. What's the point? Why pay an extortionate amount to keep them and feed them for another 50+ years. Kill them and save some money. We're in big enough national debt without flushing money away on a pointless cause.
Money saved can be put back into the system to rehabilitate those that can be.
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My thoughts, it doesn't happen fast enough. If they have concrete evidence (DNA etc) then put them down within the next few weeks.
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06-27-2013, 06:36 AM #32
Hahaha, funny how I don't even believe in God. But if we're going to invoke the scriptures as our codex, then okay
I don't agree that the government should act any different than we do on an individual level. Our government is supposed to belong to us, the people. Therefore it is an extension of us. Military, police and corrections should act as protective forces acting in a protective/defensive manner only.
The point of imprisoning murderers for life isn't to punish them, it's to protect US from them. As I said before, all the punishment you can inflict on a murderer will not bring the person(s) he killed back. We all have to sleep at night, I'd rather go to bed with a clear conscience than get my hands dirty with revenge.
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06-27-2013, 07:43 AM #33
^^^clearly u don't have the stomach for it. So let those who do handle it. Do you knw how many have died so you can enjoy ur daily freedoms?! I do respect your opinion but some things need to change!
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06-27-2013, 07:55 AM #34
If a dog bites someone they put it down immediately, a human kills someone it takes years for justice to happen.Funny world we live in.
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06-27-2013, 08:07 AM #35~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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06-27-2013, 08:09 AM #36
Maybe i've read too much Tom Clancy. But i kind of like a government that has secrets. That spies on people and countries. That cover-up things like alien abductions...lol
I like to be just a citizen to live my simple life and raise my kids without worrying about things in that level.
Anyway, I respect you for being a religious atheist. Lol
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06-27-2013, 08:11 AM #37~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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06-27-2013, 08:18 AM #38
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The problem is that we used to put people to death in the ways you describe and it NEVER served as any kind of deterrent....
Secondly history has shown us that many people have been wrongly convicted so at least a good length of time between sentence and death is a good idea to be sure your mudering the right people....
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