NSA Email Surveillance - keep safe everyone.

**thisAngelBites** · 08-12-2013, 07:36 AM

Interesting reading about email security.

The NSA is turning the internet into a total surveillance system | Alexander Abdo and Patrick Toomey | Comment is free | theguardian.com

**wmaousley** · 08-13-2013, 03:05 AM

Its ok, we have known this was going on since before 2011. Its just a big deal because the rest of the world now knows. Im ok with it.

**Java Man** · 08-13-2013, 03:17 AM

Anything you don't want anyone else to know about should not be in writing. It's been that way since man learned to write. Instead of clay tablets we have the internet. 50 years from now it will be something else. I'm ok with it, too. It's something I've been careful about since I had a 300 baud modem on my C64 connecting to 'underground' bbs's. Before that, I didn't pass notes in class that I didn't want the teacher to read.

**ppwc1985** · 08-13-2013, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by wmaousley

Its ok, we have known this was going on since before 2011. Its just a big deal because the rest of the world now knows. Im ok with it.

This^^^ same here, mostly they looking for threats not for your emails to you girlfriends.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-13-2013, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by Java Man

Anything you don't want anyone else to know about should not be in writing. It's been that way since man learned to write. Instead of clay tablets we have the internet. 50 years from now it will be something else. I'm ok with it, too. It's something I've been careful about since I had a 300 baud modem on my C64 connecting to 'underground' bbs's. Before that, I didn't pass notes in class that I didn't want the teacher to read.

Sysops respected their users privacy way more than the government does now. But it was always a fear of mine that the SPA would have a sweep in my area and take down a few boards then open all the emails and start tracing the phone lines taking everybody down in the area. You had to be careful of what you said because it could get in the wrong hands.

But we've grown used to this false sense of rights to privacy. The truth is we have no rights and so everything we say/do should be done carefully and underground if we want any chance of privacy.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-13-2013, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by ppwc1985

This^^^ same here, mostly they looking for threats not for your emails to you girlfriends.

I don't give a shit what they're looking for, they shouldn't be invading our privacy. If they want to spy on you, they should get a warrant first.

But we can't stop the government from invading our privacy. The US government is way too big and powerful for anyone to stop them. The only way to protect our "right," is to be more covert and paranoid than we are.

**Java Man** · 08-13-2013, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Sysops respected their users privacy way more than the government does now. But it was always a fear of mine that the SPA would have a sweep in my area and take down a few boards then open all the emails and start tracing the phone lines taking everybody down in the area. You had to be careful of what you said because it could get in the wrong hands.

But we've grown used to this false sense of rights to privacy. The truth is we have no rights and so everything we say/do should be done carefully and underground if we want any chance of privacy.

Yep. It's all about making people feel good, safe, protected. That's the game. Happy people are quiet people, they don't stir the pot. it's an illusion. Government is good at it. It's how those in power stay in power.

**DSM4Life** · 08-13-2013, 05:08 AM

After they see the disturbing porn imagines I been viewing I am sure ill be off their list ASAP.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-13-2013, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

After they see the disturbing porn imagines I been viewing I am sure ill be off their list ASAP.

What if spying on you and the internet porn you watch was the reason Snowden snapped and leaked? You could unknowingly be the American hero.

**Java Man** · 08-13-2013, 05:34 AM

Lol!

**lovbyts** · 08-13-2013, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by DSM4Life

After they see the disturbing porn imagines I been viewing I am sure ill be off their list ASAP.

Or maybe on another list... Interpol?

**Shol'va** · 08-13-2013, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Or maybe on another list... Interpol?

As long as they don't hack my computer and steal all my Jeffy Seid videos I'll be fine..

**Igifuno** · 08-13-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shol'va

As long as they don't hack my computer and steal all my Jeffy Seid videos I'll be fine..

Not familiar.. Should I look this up?

**HitIt** · 08-13-2013, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Java Man

Anything you don't want anyone else to know about should not be in writing. It's been that way since man learned to write. Instead of clay tablets we have the internet. 50 years from now it will be something else. I'm ok with it, too. It's something I've been careful about since I had a 300 baud modem on my C64 connecting to 'underground' bbs's. Before that, I didn't pass notes in class that I didn't want the teacher to read.

I think I was using eagleterm 5.0 back then to connect to bbs's on my C=64

**Flagg** · 08-13-2013, 03:23 PM

David Cameron must really be a fan of things like 1984 for the wrong reasons.

Remember, when they want to watch what you are doing, its because we need to THINK OF THE CHILDREN and THINK OF TERRORISM!

This is going on everywhere though.

**Shol'va** · 08-13-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

Not familiar.. Should I look this up?

Yes go to youtube and type in jeff seid and watch a few of his videos if you dare...lol Actually he is just a young body builder with really really nice genetics going for him. And he is easy on the eyes...

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-13-2013, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by HitIt

I think I was using eagleterm 5.0 back then to connect to bbs's on my C=64

I remember when I finally made the switch to a PC, using telix to connect to bbs'es

**Times Roman** · 08-13-2013, 08:15 PM

I remember when the cops/politicians told everyone they were not going to have anyone pulled over for seat belt violations.....

**Fcastle357** · 08-13-2013, 09:08 PM

Your stuff is safe and private until they decide its not.

**Flagg** · 08-14-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Fcastle357

Your stuff is safe and private until they decide its not.

Awesome name. Im a massive Punisher fan!

**Fcastle357** · 08-14-2013, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Flagg

Awesome name. Im a massive Punisher fan!

Thanks bro me 2

**Xzandr** · 08-14-2013, 11:52 PM

Hell, if you look at a 1940s Social Security card it specifically says, "For Social Security Purposes - Not For Identification" The government is always full of Sh*t

**OnTheSauce** · 08-15-2013, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Xzandr

Hell, if you look at a 1940s Social Security card it specifically says, "For Social Security Purposes - Not For Identification" The government is always full of Sh*t

Yep. Which is why I don't want them involved in my personal life. Shouldn't be spying emails or Internet without a warrant or probable cause. Invasion of privacy. Eventually there will be security cameras in everyone's house. No big deal if you aren't Doing anything wrong, right?

**loki_is_a_god** · 08-15-2013, 02:08 PM

I didnt read any of the responses....but NSA has been monitoring ALL telecommunications with ECHELON. Prism or any other surveillance program you have heard of pales in comparison to what data Echelon gathers, records, and analyzes.

**wmaousley** · 08-18-2013, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by loki_is_a_god

I didnt read any of the responses....but NSA has been monitoring ALL telecommunications with ECHELON. Prism or any other surveillance program you have heard of pales in comparison to what data Echelon gathers, records, and analyzes.

"ECHELON" is used based on the UKUSA Security Agreement, but who knows what the real name of the system is. Media has been calling this "ECHELON", but what is it really?