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12-01-2013, 02:34 AM #1
Is your Smart TV Spying on you?
Wow!!! More conspiracy theories coming true.
LG Smart TVs May Spy on Users, Blogger Says
Just how smart is an LG Smart TV ? Smart enough to spy on you, according to one user's findings.
A blogger who goes by the name DoctorBeet wrote that he had performed a traffic analysis on his home router and found that every time he changed the channel, his LG Smart TV would ping LG's servers with the name of the channel and his identification number.
In the TV's system settings, DoctorBeet found an option called "Collection of watching info" that was set to "on" by default.
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But even after he switched this option to "off," more traffic analysis revealed that his TV continued to send the same information to LG's servers.
DoctorBeet said he also discovered that the LG Smart TV would sometimes upload the names of personal files stored on an external USB drive plugged into the TV.
Only the files' names were collected, not the files themselves. However, file names can contain potentially sensitive information.
For example, DoctorBeet said he saw his Smart TV had uploaded a file name of a Christmas video that contained his children's names.
As bait, DoctorBeet created another file and called it "midget porn," just to see if the TV would upload that file name. The TV did.
LG didn't appear to be actually receiving those file names — at least not at that moment. The URL to which the file names were being posted returned a 404 "Not Found" error, indicating that the URL did not exist, even if the receiving server did.
"However, despite being missing at the moment, this collection URL could be implemented by LG on their server tomorrow, enabling them to start transparently collecting detailed information on what media files you have stored," DoctorBeet wrote on his blog.
DoctorBeet said he sent an email message to LG's U.K. subsidiary. He received a response that he should have read the Terms and Conditions of his user agreement before switching on the TV, and that any fault was with the retailer that sold him the TV.
LG's privacy policy doesn't appear to contradict any of DoctorBeet's findings. The policy states that LG collects "personally identifiable information" — names, emails, physical addresses and company names — and "non-personally identifiable information," such as IP addresses and product information.
Furthermore, LG shares this information with "strategic partners, agents, third-party marketers or information providers, or other unaffiliated parties, who are offering products or services that we believe may be of interest to you."
A video that LG created for prospective advertisers touts the wealth of information the company collects about users of its TVs and smartphones.
The privacy policy doesn't give LG customers any way to opt out of this data collection, stating, "If you do not want us to share your personally identifiable information in this manner, please do not provide us with this information."
Tom's Guide has reached out to LG for comment, which said it was investigating the situation. "Customer privacy is a top priority at LG Electronics and as such, we take the issue very seriously. We are looking into the reports that certain viewing information on LG Smart TVs was shared without consent," the company said in a statement. We will update this story as more information becomes available.
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I do not understand the upheaval about this stuff? It is simple, do the utility someone purchased have a need to an Internet connection? If Yes, assume data is being sent from that device to whatever servers the manufacturer have. Even if it does not send something, assume it can be hacked.
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12-01-2013, 02:50 AM #3
Because most people dont know, dont understand and it's not right.
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12-01-2013, 04:20 AM #4
DoctorBeet likes midget porn.. weird..
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12-01-2013, 06:02 AM #5
If the people were aware of the fact that LG was collecting data about their customers, they most likely would not use their product.
It's sad when corporations take every opportunity now to violate their customer's privacy. And I'm sure LG isn't the only ones doing that. I'm pretty positive that the entire industry as a whole is doing the same thing regardless of smart TV bought. So we're now at the point where we can't even watch TV anymore without some Big Brother watching us. It's outrageous and wrong.
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12-01-2013, 06:15 AM #6
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12-01-2013, 06:32 AM #7
what is a smart TV?
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The last thing people want to see is what I do behind closed doors.
Realist: A person who sees things as they truly are. A practical person. The pessimist complains about the wind; The optimist expects it to change; The realist adjusts the sails. — William Arthur Ward
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12-01-2013, 10:29 PM #9
A smart TV is connected to the internet and has certain things built in for web browsing and skype. It does more online interactive TV stuff like streaming were before it was done through your computer or DVD player.
Supposedly it you can upgrade it via online or plugging in a new module although if you want a good picture it's better to just get a good quality 1080p, 240 mhz or higher TV
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12-02-2013, 01:23 AM #10Originally Posted by lovbyts
Guess HAW and I shouldn't be doing the nasty in front of the tv any more huh? Lol
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12-02-2013, 02:04 AM #11
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12-02-2013, 02:21 AM #12Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong
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12-02-2013, 02:59 AM #13
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12-02-2013, 03:01 AM #14
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12-02-2013, 04:21 AM #15
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12-02-2013, 06:33 AM #16
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12-02-2013, 06:46 AM #17
I'm about sick of these companies collecting data for 'marketing purposes'. Who says I want more fvcking phone calls and junk mail? Then they always hide behind a 'user agreement' as if we just bought a subscription to WoW or something rather than a household appliance that we basically need now if we want to have a clue what's going on in the world. As if. 'well, you could just not buy the tv'. Right. And have no tv in the house because all manufacturers are doing the same thing.
If people did actually read the thing and choose not to buy the tv, the manufacturer would stop eavesdropping and selling our information to telemarketers because nobody is buying their products due to this practice. Frustrating. People are such sheep.
Argh. Repeat 3x.
I want to die!
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12-02-2013, 06:50 AM #18
DoctorBeet created another file and called it "midget porn," just to see if the TV would upload that file name.
Lol. Riiiight. Just to see huh?
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12-02-2013, 06:52 AM #19
shit! i thought i was all high tech when i hooked up a HDMI cable from my laptop to the TV in my room......
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12-02-2013, 06:53 AM #20
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12-02-2013, 09:54 AM #21
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12-02-2013, 10:03 AM #22
Last edited by Honkey_Kong; 12-02-2013 at 10:06 AM.
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12-02-2013, 12:59 PM #23Originally Posted by Java Man
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12-02-2013, 01:00 PM #24Originally Posted by lovbyts
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12-02-2013, 01:57 PM #25
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12-02-2013, 02:50 PM #26Originally Posted by lovbyts
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12-02-2013, 07:30 PM #27
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12-02-2013, 07:37 PM #28
I knew it!!!! Those bastards are watching me through that built in camera too..... now I'm gonna have to put tape over it before I watch midget porn!! Who would they sell that information to?.... Jergens perhaps? What would happen if I had one of those cool leap motion devices turned on during a midget porn session?
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12-02-2013, 11:28 PM #29
Damn... I guess Ill have to send one of my drones with HD cameras. lol
Yeah I know but for now I couldnt pass up the $399 and didnt have $799 for a 120 or 240 hz and really I dont watch much TV in the bedroom.
I figure my next TV will be a 80"+ 240Hz+ since my current one is 72" 3D and projection is 1080P and 1080i 101" screen.Last edited by lovbyts; 12-02-2013 at 11:32 PM.
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12-03-2013, 02:59 AM #30
What happens if you have a smart t.v. and a XBone?
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12-03-2013, 03:39 AM #31
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I do have a popup camera on my TV and always felt a little funny leaving it open (pointing at us on the sofa). I leave it pulled in (closed) now.
Realist: A person who sees things as they truly are. A practical person. The pessimist complains about the wind; The optimist expects it to change; The realist adjusts the sails. — William Arthur Ward
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12-03-2013, 12:05 PM #33
This stuff makes me sick! hate that, its wrong!
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