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    If its OTC, it mist be safe, right? Not so fast!

    My HAW ended her var cycle on Sunday. She decided to bridge with OxyElite Pro. I saw her take the pill bottle from the cupboard and told her to toss that stuff. Here's an example of why people shouldn't so quickly assume OTC means a compound is safe. http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm374742.htm
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    My friend was on it and his liver values came back so bad the doc was very concerned. He stopped in and a month later was fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    My friend was on it and his liver values came back so bad the doc was very concerned. He stopped in and a month later was fine
    Thank goodness. Glad he recovered. I'd put this crap in the same category as pro hormones. I call it the crap category. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    My HAW ended her var cycle on Sunday. She decided to bridge with OxyElite Pro. I saw her take the pill bottle from the cupboard and told her to toss that stuff. Here's an example of why people shouldn't so quickly assume OTC means a compound is safe. http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm374742.htm
    My haw used to take these. ..since.ive been with her seen at least two bottles. Shes very stubborn and doesnt listen. Wants the fast results.

    Damn filipinos :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80

    My haw used to take these. ..since.ive been with her seen at least two bottles. Shes very stubborn and doesnt listen. Wants the fast results.

    Damn filipinos :/
    I sent the recall notice to mine. She couldn't be bothered reading it....but at least she's listening to me. Of course next week she'll just bring home a new OTC thermogenic.
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    Acute liver failure and hepatitis. Nice.

    Good post MI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Acute liver failure and hepatitis. Nice.

    Good post MI.
    Thanks Kel. Too bad I can't spell "must" lol.

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    this is just what ALL women want! why would we want it any other way! LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfla80 View Post
    My haw used to take these. ..since.ive been with her seen at least two bottles. Shes very stubborn and doesnt listen. Wants the fast results.

    Damn filipinos :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    My HAW ended her var cycle on Sunday. She decided to bridge with OxyElite Pro. I saw her take the pill bottle from the cupboard and told her to toss that stuff. Here's an example of why people shouldn't so quickly assume OTC means a compound is safe. OxyElite Pro Supplements Recalled
    i took this stuff a couple years back. didn't do much for me…great marketing, no results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

    i took this stuff a couple years back. didn't do much for me...great marketing, no results.
    I took it twice last year. My heart rate went sky high. No thanks!

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    My HAW doesn't take any pills of any kind.. the closest she'll come to taking pills are gummy bear vitamins.

    Good info, thanks MI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno
    My HAW doesn't take any pills of any kind.. the closest she'll come to taking pills are gummy bear vitamins.

    Good info, thanks MI.
    And somehow she ends up with you...... Lol
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    Oxy elite is pretty good i dont mind it. Ive used it before as a pre work out. Use to make me sweat alot and make my heart sore tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno
    My HAW doesn't take any pills of any kind.. the closest she'll come to taking pills are gummy bear vitamins. Good info, thanks MI.
    same with mine she don't even like taking aleve unless a dr prescribes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    And somehow she ends up with you...... Lol
    One of life's great mysteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Acute liver failure and hepatitis. Nice.

    Good post MI.
    That's crazy... Yeah I guess it must be pretty hard on the liver.

    I defiantly dont trust OTC stuff. Do you know in a lot of countries Tylenol isnt sold OTC but aas are, more or less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno View Post
    My HAW doesn't take any pills of any kind.. the closest she'll come to taking pills are gummy bear vitamins.

    Good info, thanks MI.
    Mine is the same way. She wont even take an aspirin/tylenol when she has cramps unless they are bad. She says she doesnt want to get dependent on anything, except me.

    I do keep telling her she needs to hit the gym more, the treadmill and cooking more healthy food. I think she is up to 105 lbs. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    That's crazy... Yeah I guess it must be pretty hard on the liver.

    I defiantly dont trust OTC stuff. Do you know in a lot of countries Tylenol isnt sold OTC but aas are, more or less.

    Mine is the same way. She wont even take an aspirin/tylenol when she has cramps unless they are bad. She says she doesnt want to get dependent on anything, except me.

    I do keep telling her she needs to hit the gym more, the treadmill and cooking more healthy food. I think she is up to 105 lbs. lol
    A whole 105lbs!?! What a fatty!!! Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    A whole 105lbs!?! What a fatty!!! Lol
    Yeah I know but she is 5' 4" so it doesn't really show yet. She was 98 lbs when we got together 5 years ago so I hope the upward trend does not continue. In another 5 years she might be up to 110 lbs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    Yeah I know but she is 5' 4" so it doesn't really show yet. She was 98 lbs when we got together 5 years ago so I hope the upward trend does not continue. In another 5 years she might be up to 110 lbs...
    My wife is 10lbs heavier than she was when she was modeling. Her family keeps giving her a hard time about it. She keeps insisting she wants lipo but I know a little bit of the weight is likely water retention from her birth control. She only goes to the gym once maybe twice a week and does cardio and ab work. Her diet could be better (mostly noodles, rice, as fried Vietnamese food).

    She's already looking up other OTC thermogenic compounds tonight. Good grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    My wife is 10lbs heavier than she was when she was modeling. Her family keeps giving her a hard time about it. She keeps insisting she wants lipo but I know a little bit of the weight is likely water retention from her birth control. She only goes to the gym once maybe twice a week and does cardio and ab work. Her diet could be better (mostly noodles, rice, as fried Vietnamese food).
    She's already looking up other OTC thermogenic compounds tonight. Good grief.
    I hear you on the diet. I'm working on mine to clean up her/our diet. I'm suffering from it a lot more than she is at this point. luckily I bring most of my own food to work so I eat a lot cleaner than at home. I ate more rice in the first month we were together than I did in my whole life practically. lol

    Mine keeps looking at pills and creams but not for diet. She wants better skin and bigger boobs. I told her maybe Ill buy her boobs for Christmas next year. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I hear you on the diet. I'm working on mine to clean up her/our diet. I'm suffering from it a lot more than she is at this point. luckily I bring most of my own food to work so I eat a lot cleaner than at home. I ate more rice in the first month we were together than I did in my whole life practically. lol

    Mine keeps looking at pills and creams but not for diet. She wants better skin and bigger boobs. I told her maybe Ill buy her boobs for Christmas nest year. lol
    You should buy her bigger boobs for your birthday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    I hear you on the diet. I'm working on mine to clean up her/our diet. I'm suffering from it a lot more than she is at this point. luckily I bring most of my own food to work so I eat a lot cleaner than at home. I ate more rice in the first month we were together than I did in my whole life practically. lol

    Mine keeps looking at pills and creams but not for diet. She wants better skin and bigger boobs. I told her maybe Ill buy her boobs for Christmas nest year. lol
    Lol.....mine is asking for butt implants. No, no, and NO!!!!

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    Someone say boobs?

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    Yeah mine will suffer through a migraine and won't take anything for it. Baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Lol.....mine is asking for butt implants. No, no, and NO!!!!
    LOL, yeah mine has mentioned that also. I'm not sure why, I think it's just fine. I offered several times to give her a butt implant but I guess it's not quite what she had in mind. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    LOL, yeah mine has mentioned that also. I'm not sure why, I think it's just fine. I offered several times to give her a butt implant but I guess it's not quite what she had in mind. lol
    Get her some factory warrantied hooters and a new big ass. I'm sure the plastic surgeon could give you some sort of discount if you get the bundled package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

    Get her some factory warrantied hooters and a new big ass. I'm sure the plastic surgeon could give you some sort of discount if you get the bundled package.
    Mines due for new boobs next year. She's already talking about the gel implants - an upgrade from her saline.

    I'm sure she'll be inquiring about discount packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Mines due for new boobs next year. She's already talking about the gel implants - an upgrade from her saline.

    I'm sure she'll be inquiring about discount packages.
    Maybe we can get a group discount going? lol

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    Get her some factory warrantied hooters and a new big ass. I'm sure the plastic surgeon could give you some sort of discount if you get the bundled package.
    1st wife had the saline ones. She had all kinds of complications but most of them were her own fault. She was part of the class action lawsuit with dow corning and after many years it did pay out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Mines due for new boobs next year. She's already talking about the gel implants - an upgrade from her saline.

    I'm sure she'll be inquiring about discount packages.
    Is she the kind of person to haggle over the price of new tits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Maybe we can get a group discount going? lol



    1st wife had the saline ones. She had all kinds of complications but most of them were her own fault. She was part of the class action lawsuit with dow corning and after many years it did pay out.

    What kind of complications did the saline ones have? I thought the worst that could happen is she'd end up with an empty bag where her tit was supposed to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong View Post
    What kind of complications did the saline ones have? I thought the worst that could happen is she'd end up with an empty bag where her tit was supposed to be?
    There was a lot of complications about 20 years ago with some leaking, some not adhering like they should and people having to have them done 2 or 3x to fix it. My wife had them replaced 3x in 4 years? Actually I think hers were gel to think of it... Either way as I said, most of the problems were her fault, not letting them heal properly IMO.

    There were claims that the leaking gel could or did cause medical issues but I think it was just a bunch of lawyers looking to get rich quick, and they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

    Is she the kind of person to haggle over the price of new tits?
    Absolutely not. She'll want the most expensive ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    Maybe we can get a group discount going? lol

    1st wife had the saline ones. She had all kinds of complications but most of them were her own fault. She was part of the class action lawsuit with dow corning and after many years it did pay out.
    Group discount would be great! As long as we don't have to share the boobs!!!!

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    You guys better post pics of the finished works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Group discount would be great! As long as we don't have to share the boobs!!!!
    Hmmmm no I wont go there. I had it typed up but I backed it out. lol
    I dont like to share either, unless it's with another girl. I have never seemed to have a problem with that as long as they share also. The 1st wife like to invite young female friends over to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno View Post
    Yeah mine will suffer through a migraine and won't take anything for it. Baffling.
    I was actually that way up to 5 years ago I wouldn't even take asprin for a headache.
    Things have definitely changed this last couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Lol.....mine is asking for butt implants. No, no, and NO!!!!
    Maybe she means anal? Language barrier thing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Maybe she means anal? Language barrier thing....
    LMAO!!!! Great read OP thanks!

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    good post MI, that's is some scary shit!

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