Most Accomplished Guitarist

**Times Roman** · 10-24-2014, 10:37 PM

1) Technical Expertise
2) Degree of difficulty
3) Dynamic Range
4) Innovation
5) Ability of other Guitarists to emulate
6) Originality

I've been to literally hundreds of concerts during my life. I seen Steve Morse play with Deep Purple, who most think is an excellent guitarist. Then out came Joe. I stood there, no more than 50 feet away, blown away, speechless, mouth wide open, in amazement. Never have I seen such wizardry. You can listen to Joe, or you can watch Joe. You have to experience Joe to fully appreciate the talent.

This is his Satch Boogie video. You can see he does things most guitarists don't. But this is not a real good example of his talent. He seems to be barely moving.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...D1AE8B56912933

**Hazard** · 10-24-2014, 10:52 PM

http://youtu.be/Vms_6_TSQuc

**Igifuno** · 10-24-2014, 11:03 PM

Satriani is a magician..

You're criteria is stringent, which it should be for most accomplished guitarist. I would like to but can't really say dimebag darrel because he died way to early to maximize his potential but I would have loved to see him flourish over time.. I mean, can you imagine if Pantera were still around?

http://youtu.be/NB_GGdXCVB0

**Metalject** · 10-25-2014, 12:53 AM

A couple names some might not know but are two of the best ever IMO.

Luca Turrilli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBD8xRvK7w

Alexi Laiho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62fJsEHQ94

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-25-2014, 04:29 AM

This is one of my favourite guitarists ever. He possesses everything that a guitarist could ever want. He's got the tone, he's got a near perfect technique. He can play something you've heard other people play a million times before, but you can feel his passion and how he makes it his own. Take the time to check this out:

RÃ©mi Boucher playing Adagio - YouTube

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

The RETURN Of The Angriest Guitar Player In The World!!! - YouTube

oh, you're being funny.

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

Satriani is a magician..

You're criteria is stringent, which it should be for most accomplished guitarist. I would like to but can't really say dimebag darrel because he died way to early to maximize his potential but I would have loved to see him flourish over time.. I mean, can you imagine if Pantera were still around?

Dimebag Darrell guitar solo 1984 age 18 amazing - YouTube

He obviously has talent
He is obviously fast.
he seems to lack some depth. what I mean is that he seems to have a limited number of "tricks" he relies on in a short period of time. Over time, he could have developed more.
but his emphasis seems to be on his speed.

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Metalject

A couple names some might not know but are two of the best ever IMO.

Luca Turrilli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBD8xRvK7w

Alexi Laiho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62fJsEHQ94

I don't know how good Luca is in only 90 seconds, but he seems moderately fast, has a unique flare and I like his sound!

Unlike Dimebag Darrel, if you get tired of listening to him at Mach 5, seems he has little else

Irish Metal, huh? I think me likes!

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

This is one of my favourite guitarists ever. He possesses everything that a guitarist could ever want. He's got the tone, he's got a near perfect technique. He can play something you've heard other people play a million times before, but you can feel his passion and how he makes it his own. Take the time to check this out:

RÃ©mi Boucher playing Adagio - YouTube

He has heart and soul. And he is well trained. No doubt there. Very fine talent.

I just wasn't prepared for a classical guitarist playing an acoustic.

His dynamic range is good. Good tempo, entertaining to listen to.

I think the perfect venue would be in a small intimate environment, possibly at a winery having a great meal.

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 03:58 PM

joe seems pretty casual about his speed. he barely works up a sweat. watching him you would think not much was going on, but to hear him flying up and down the neck like it's no big deal. he takes the guitar places most others cannot........

**Igifuno** · 10-25-2014, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

He obviously has talent He is obviously fast. he seems to lack some depth. what I mean is that he seems to have a limited number of "tricks" he relies on in a short period of time. Over time, he could have developed more. but his emphasis seems to be on his speed.

He was around until 2004 and he and his brother Vinnie Paul (currently with Hellyeah) started a group damage plan until DB was shot.. I think he got a shit ton better throughout his career. I may be biased as you can tell, this guy may be my all time fav.

I am pretty diverse though and appreciate all kinds of genres and guitarists. There's this kid sungha Jung that I found on YouTube that I follow and out him on when I go to sleep some times. He's incredibly talented.

**Times Roman** · 10-25-2014, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

He was around until 2004 and he and his brother Vinnie Paul (currently with Hellyeah) started a group damage plan until DB was shot.. I think he got a shit ton better throughout his career. I may be biased as you can tell, this guy may be my all time fav.

I am pretty diverse though and appreciate all kinds of genres and guitarists. There's this kid sungha Jung that I found on YouTube that I follow and out him on when I go to sleep some times. He's incredibly talented.

link?

**Honkey_Kong** · 10-26-2014, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

He has heart and soul. And he is well trained. No doubt there. Very fine talent.

I just wasn't prepared for a classical guitarist playing an acoustic.

His dynamic range is good. Good tempo, entertaining to listen to.

I think the perfect venue would be in a small intimate environment, possibly at a winery having a great meal.

As I've become older, I've cared less about the rock 'n roll guitarists and more about the classical guitarists as I've made the switch in college from being a metal/thrash guitarist over to classical guitar and flamenco. To me, this style of guitar is more intimate and conveys the emotion of the musician more. I don't know about being at a winery having a meal to this sort of thing, because this sort of guitar and Remi specificially, I like to get caught up in the sound. Sort of letting go of the world around you fade for a bit and nothing except the music from the guitar is left.

To me, a piece of music and in particular the performance is a journey through a story and a world of emotions. It's not just some random thing to shake my ass and arms to. And people like that guy just capture it for me.

**zempey** · 10-26-2014, 07:30 AM

My favorite guitar player is Derek Trucks from the Allman Brothers Band, the sound he gets playing slide guitar is out of this world. The duo of him and Warren Haynes is IMO the best of all time, they are so in tune with each other and to see them do it live is amazing. I know southern rock is not everyone's cup of tea, but these guys make magic and have been doing it together for 15 years.
"Blue Sky" - Allman Brothers Band - 3/14/14 - The Beacon Theater - YouTube

It's a bit long and starts slow, but the back and fourth between the two and the progression is incredible to see live, the energy is intense.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-26-2014, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by zempey

My favorite guitar player is Derek Trucks from the Allman Brothers Band, the sound he gets playing slide guitar is out of this world. The duo of him and Warren Haynes is IMO the best of all time, they are so in tune with each other and to see them do it live is amazing. I know southern rock is not everyone's cup of tea, but these guys make magic and have been doing it together for 15 years.
"Blue Sky" - Allman Brothers Band - 3/14/14 - The Beacon Theater - YouTube

It's a bit long and starts slow, but the back and fourth between the two and the progression is incredible to see live, the energy is intense.

holy shit bro finally someone mentions a true sole man in warren Haynes...his work with the allman brothers is amazing but his stuff with government mule is just incredible imho...listen to anything from him or with him in it and the hair will stand up on the back of your neck, it will move you brothers check it out...ohh and its not jut his playing, listen to his voice when he sings...

**zempey** · 10-26-2014, 07:48 AM

Here is one with the two of them jamming, pure magic, it is such a shame that the run is over. My daughter calls this the "Lassie" song.
The Allman Brothers Band - Jessica (EPIC Version!!!); Wanee Festival 2014-04-11 - YouTube

**Igifuno** · 10-26-2014, 07:51 AM

No doubt the Allman Brothers were magical as well. Was listening to them with my daughter not too long ago. Now we're also talking about one of the best voices in rock and roll history too.

**zempey** · 10-26-2014, 07:54 AM

I haven't had the opportunity to see Gov Mule yet, but they are on my list, Warren is a hell of an artist. I went to the beacon in '13 for two shows, the holy grail of the Allman Brothers, it was epic for me.

**Igifuno** · 10-26-2014, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

link?

http://youtu.be/yWXCzlTMfd0

http://youtu.be/6caUN3HLJSI

**zempey** · 10-26-2014, 07:59 AM

One more set and I will stop with the uploads, but this is such a good recording and will give an idea of what these guys are all about.
Allman Bros LAST SHOW AT WANEE 2014 - YouTube

**Scabtree** · 10-26-2014, 11:54 AM

My vote would be Tommy Emmanuel: Classical Gas (by Mason Williams) - Tommy Emmanuel - YouTube

He can play a wide range of song genres, acoustic, electric... He does it all. He da man.

**Times Roman** · 10-26-2014, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

As I've become older, I've cared less about the rock 'n roll guitarists and more about the classical guitarists as I've made the switch in college from being a metal/thrash guitarist over to classical guitar and flamenco. To me, this style of guitar is more intimate and conveys the emotion of the musician more. I don't know about being at a winery having a meal to this sort of thing, because this sort of guitar and Remi specificially, I like to get caught up in the sound. Sort of letting go of the world around you fade for a bit and nothing except the music from the guitar is left.

To me, a piece of music and in particular the performance is a journey through a story and a world of emotions. It's not just some random thing to shake my ass and arms to. And people like that guy just capture it for me.

I have always said music should suit the mood. I played a horn for about 8 or so years. I was moderately good, several years of lessons. So I've got an ear for music many don't have. I appreciate almost all music. There are some exceptions.

Even when I was young, I listened to Eastern music while studying, Ravi Shankar specifically.
When I'm out with the boys, something with some energy, like rock or funk
When I'm with a lady, something with passion and soul, like maybe Chicago
shit, I've even learned to enjoy some country...........

Music is a way to set a mood, and we all have many moods. It always surprises me when I hear someone say they only listen to one type of music.

**JJ78** · 10-26-2014, 06:07 PM

Stevie Ray Vaughn

**zempey** · 10-26-2014, 06:50 PM

TR, I like electronic music, and yes it is music, not all of it is one repetitive beat like the stereotype suggests. I have been listening to it for about 20 years or so, but I do like all sorts of music. Not a fan of hip hop or throw away pop music, but I enjoy listening to music and getting lost in the sound stage. I have a pretty decent home system, my front speakers are Paradigm Monitor 11's with a Yamaha power amp and receiver, I have always been an audiophile, just could never afford to spend as much as I would have liked too.

**Times Roman** · 10-26-2014, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by zempey

TR, I like electronic music, and yes it is music, not all of it is one repetitive beat like the stereotype suggests. I have been listening to it for about 20 years or so, but I do like all sorts of music. Not a fan of hip hop or throw away pop music, but I enjoy listening to music and getting lost in the sound stage. I have a pretty decent home system, my front speakers are Paradigm Monitor 11's with a Yamaha power amp and receiver, I have always been an audiophile, just could never afford to spend as much as I would have liked too.

some of the cleanest sounding speakers I have ever heard were the pair I made as a teanager. infinite baffle, air tight, three way crossover, 12" woofer and a horn tweeter.

I purchased Pioneer's HPM 100's back when I lived in Korea, another very clean sounding system. it's a 4 way crossover, 12" woofer, and a high polymer super tweeter

**zempey** · 10-27-2014, 06:08 AM

I have had decent speakers over the years, but nothing compared to these Paradigms, two eight inch drivers, an eight inch mid driver and one inch tweeter, the bass they produce is staggering for the size of the drivers and the power handling blew me away. My amp would destroy every speaker I had, blowing the woofers out of my PSB Century 800i's three times, but the composure at peak volumes blows me away. The can be a little bright up top, but I think that might be my amp as well as room positioning.

By the way, I think my last comment for supposed to be in your other thread where you commented on my trance music, lol. Got lost in the different threads.

**Times Roman** · 10-27-2014, 07:54 AM

yeah, I remember that post. some tech music is good. I just like to vary it.

btw, when it comes to clean sounding speakers, there are many things to consider, which is why I ended up building a pair when I was younger. nothing, literally nothing can beat an air tight infinite baffle when it comes to crisp tight bass. but it is very "difficult" to make. You certainly cannot purchase such a custom speaker. very dense three quarter inch particle board, wood cleats, with wood screws spaced one inch apart all around. plus internal volume has to be optimized. It was around five cubic feet I believe. and heavy. one speaker weighed I'm guessing seventy pounds.

you can't buy speakers like that due to extreme material costs (which is why you usually see large speakers with little enclosures and a "ducted bass port". the ducted port is essential when using cheap enclosure materials)

half the sound of the speaker is based on the enclosure. ask anyone that has built massive car speakers how hard it is to get the vibration out of a car when turning the volume up