Gains after roids

**gunner_jensen** · 11-10-2014, 06:06 AM

Question: will i lose all my gains after i stop roids? I am 41 and trying a 3 month cycle for the first time...

**marcus300** · 11-10-2014, 06:09 AM

A lot depends on genetics, the foundation you had pre cycle, diet, training, how well you recover and how consistent you are

**musclestack** · 11-10-2014, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

A lot depends on genetics, the foundation you had pre cycle, diet, training, how well you recover and how consistent you are

Gunner, I don't want to hijack your thread here, but I think that my question to Marcus would help you out also.

Marcus, the variables you listed, with the exception of genetics can, more or less, all be achieved by the decisions we make (we choose to have a solid foundation, a good diet, train hard and consistent, and run a proper PCT post cycle to, hopefully, recover well). When it comes to genetics, could HGH 'alter' our genetics to the point where we could maintain more lean tissue gains when we're off AAS than if one were not using HGH?

*Let's assume the HGH is pharma grade and ran at moderate dosages (anywhere from 3-6 iu per day) for arguments sake.

**marcus300** · 11-10-2014, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by musclestack

Gunner, I don't want to hijack your thread here, but I think that my question to Marcus would help you out also.

Marcus, the variables you listed, with the exception of genetics can, more or less, all be achieved by the decisions we make (we choose to have a solid foundation, a good diet, train hard and consistent, and run a proper PCT post cycle to, hopefully, recover well). When it comes to genetics, could HGH 'alter' our genetics to the point where we could maintain more lean tissue gains when we're off AAS than if one were not using HGH?

*Let's assume the HGH is pharma grade and ran at moderate dosages (anywhere from 3-6 iu per day) for arguments sake.

If I remember right your running generic blue tops which wont be real hgh, sorry but it wont be.

HGH does help a great deal to maintain gains after a cycle, there's a lot of factors in play about keeping gains and the bigger you are the harder it will be but yes hgh is another tool to help hold onto gains but it isn't a 100% guarantee

**musclestack** · 11-10-2014, 10:25 AM

Lol excellent memory, Marcus!! Yes, it's true I'm running blue tops. That's why I put the clause in there about pharma grade (for argument's sake) to get a valid, unbiased response, which you did in the latter part of your post, and I thank you for that.

Is it mostly the hyperplasia from the HGH that allow us to 'alter' our genetics and hold on to more muscle tissue?

**marcus300** · 11-10-2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by musclestack

Lol excellent memory, Marcus!! Yes, it's true I'm running blue tops. That's why I put the clause in there about pharma grade (for argument's sake) to get a valid, unbiased response, which you did in the latter part of your post, and I thank you for that.

Is it mostly the hyperplasia from the HGH that allow us to 'alter' our genetics and hold on to more muscle tissue?

It takes a long time for this to occur and you need to be running at least 8-10ius daily for over 12 months of real hgh not those blues you got lol

at best you'll have some other pep but one thing is for sure it wont be real hgh. Safe your money and find a pharm grade source you'll never look back.

**musclestack** · 11-10-2014, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

It takes a long time for this to occur and you need to be running at least 8-10ius daily for over 12 months of real hgh not those blues you got lol

at best you'll have some other pep but one thing is for sure it wont be real hgh. Safe your money and find a pharm grade source you'll never look back.

Got the source...just hard to dish out that kind of money. Christmas is coming around though, ya know...and I heard you were a pretty generous guy...just sayin..