Does anyone here actually believe in white priviledge?

[Euroholic]

There's privilege and racism for every race.....

Privilege: minorities (non white) get discounts with schooling.

Racism: whites get pulled over frequently in hood areas for being white. Why? Because its assumed they're buying drugs.

In NJ black applicants to the NJ state police and also fire fighters are allowed lower testing scores. This is to allow for more racially diverse LE and Emergency response.

None of it is fair IMO.....

Serious? Lower test scores? Thats not right at all!!!!!!!!!!

[Bonaparte]

Guys, white privilege is a historic term that goes hand in hand with racism (i.e. that white people deserve to be on top of society because they are better than non-whites). You can't separate the two or turn it into a discussion about the injustices of affirmative action.

The OP asked whether you believe that whites should be handed better opportunities than everyone else. That is all.

[DB1982]

White privilege lol.

This crap Pisses me off. And the fact that people are repeating.

Listen up everyone.

I grew up dirt poor. Food stamps. Government food. Both parents working crappy jobs. Going hungry at night.
Wearing the some cloths to school days at a time.

I watched my parents struggle to survive and raise 3 boys.

I watched them move job to job in search of a better life for us.
Is wasn't until my mid teens. My parents were finally considered lower middle class.

Me watching my parents struggle is the reason I choose to do better for myself.
I learn the value of a dollar. The honesty in a day of hard work.

Now these days they talk about white privilege. Like white people have never struggled
Or earned the things the have.
By my own to hands and strong back I have the things I have.
I'll be damned if someone going to tell me the reason my parents survived and or I'm am where I am is because the color of my skin. Get that shit out my face.

I'm where I am because I don't let others dictate my future. I control if I fail or succeed.

I choose to succeed nobody gave me nothing.

[thisAngelBites]

Now these days they talk about white privilege. Like white people have never struggled
Or earned the things the have.

Just FYI - white privilege doesn't really have anything to do with most of this, or white people ever struggling. Do you think your parents didn't reap the benefits of things, just because their skin was white? I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about what 'white privilege' means. Maybe the OP even meant something different than white privilege.

It's about the privileges that white people enjoy just as a result of their skin colour. For example, when someone white gets into Cal Berkeley, no one thinks they were admitted only because their skin is whiite. But black people admitted have people thinking they were less qualified, but admitted just because their skin is black.

(sorry Bonaparte, for even skating on the edge of affirmative action )

[Hazard]

Just FYI - white privilege doesn't really have anything to do with most of this, or white people ever struggling. Do you think your parents didn't reap the benefits of things, just because their skin was white? I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about what 'white privilege' means. Maybe the OP even meant something different than white privilege.

It's about the privileges that white people enjoy just as a result of their skin colour. For example, when someone white gets into Cal Berkeley, no one thinks they were admitted only because their skin is whiite. But black people admitted have people thinking they were less qualified, but admitted just because their skin is black.

(sorry Bonaparte, for even skating on the edge of affirmative action )

So do we get rid of affirmative action? You (I don't mean you specifically) can't have your cake and eat it too.

If people don't want to be looked at as getting in because of their skin color then why does skin color give anyone any kind of help?

Sry Bonaparte lol - I feel like he's going to reach through the screen and choke someone lol

[RaginCajun]

what about this?

Mindy Kaling’s Brother Reveals He Pretended to Be Black to Get into Medical School | Mediaite

[lovbyts]

what about this?

Mindy KalingâEUR(TM)s Brother Reveals He Pretended to Be Black to Get into Medical School | Mediaite

He got the idea from the movie from soul brother.

[thisAngelBites]

So do we get rid of affirmative action? You (I don't mean you specifically) can't have your cake and eat it too. If people don't want to be looked at as getting in because of their skin color then why does skin color give anyone any kind of help? Sry Bonaparte lol - I feel like he's going to reach through the screen and choke someone lol

Answering anyway even if the question was not specifically for me: I don't have any kind of absolutist view about all of this, and I am not sure what the right thing to do is. These are complicated issues, and sometimes two values that are worth promoting, like meritocracy and equal access to resources for disadvantaged people conflict with each other, and we disagree about which value is most importantly promoted and when.

I guess that's the reason I said anything - it seems like these sorts of sociopolitical discussions in the lounge often take a very simplistic turn, as though there is an obvious right and wrong or fair/unfair, and also an apportioning of blame, such that if white people enjoy privileges that black people don't, it means white people have to get defensive and enumerate their disadvantages in an attempt to level out any unfairness. I understand those impulses, but I think they get in the way of real understanding.

Maybe it's some progress for people to just consider that even in ordinary transactions, like like renting a flat or paying cash for a large purchase, black people often have to tolerate others assuming that they are financially unreliable or dishonest solely because of the colour of their skin. Maybe some awareness wouldn't hurt.

[Hazard]

It's not that complicated..... Atleast for me it's not..... Race shouldn't give ANYONE an advantage in life.

I come from white parents - middle class. There was always good on the table - we sometimes had to go without certain things but I always had the important stuff.

I started working in a hospital when I was 18. College wasn't affordable not did I like school much. I started at the bottom and networked as much as I could. A company gave me an interview because I was persistent and they were a start up. I did great and earned enough money to buy a house at 25. This company folded up and I was left with no education, a mortgage, a child, and a broken family. I SAW NO HELP..... None whatsoever. I took a low paying job to barely make ends meet. I applied for insurance through the state for me and my daughter and was denied. I applied for food stamps and was denied. I received no assistance at all.

I then was laid off from the low paying job because they hired Mexicans and paid them less money than they were paying me and my coworkers. I was now unemployed with a child by myself. I was lucky to find a job I could do based upon my security (bouncing) history. They took a chance on me. I didnt disappoint them and quickly worked my way up. Now I'm with a different company and I'm doing okay. I can make ends meet but that's about it. Hopefully things take off soon.

I work in predominantly black neighborhoods. I deal with all kinds of people.... All kinds of races..... And all walks of life. The bullshit people say about growing up in bad areas and having to sell drugs is just that..... Bullshit. It's an excuse.... I've seen people in extremely bad situations turn themselves around with hard work and perseverance. It's hard for me to feel bad for anyone when I don't see them doing anything to help themself. I've even heard people tell my co-worker he has black skin but he's not black.... All because he was working with me.

White privilege? I don't think so

[songdog]

Well if you are young black kid and are wearing a bunch of gold and driving a Beemer.Well yes if I was a cop I would pull you over.And if you were white in the wrong part of town driving around I would also pull you over.So take it from there.But in the end blacks kill more than anyone but nothing is said.The jails aint filled with them because they were boy scouts.

[Hazard]

Well if you are young black kid and are wearing a bunch of gold and driving a Beemer.Well yes if I was a cop I would pull you over.And if you were white in the wrong part of town driving around I would also pull you over.So take it from there.But in the end blacks kill more than anyone but nothing is said.The jails aint filled with them because they were boy scouts.

The dude driving the Beemer with the hold on would have anything on him. You'd never catch him like that. :-) jus sayin

[fitnesstrainer]

Just FYI - white privilege doesn't really have anything to do with most of this, or white people ever struggling. Do you think your parents didn't reap the benefits of things, just because their skin was white? I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about what 'white privilege' means. Maybe the OP even meant something different than white privilege. It's about the privileges that white people enjoy just as a result of their skin colour. For example, when someone white gets into Cal Berkeley, no one thinks they were admitted only because their skin is whiite. But black people admitted have people thinking they were less qualified, but admitted just because their skin is black. (sorry Bonaparte, for even skating on the edge of affirmative action )

If what your saying is true isn't people believing in white privilege very hypocritical? Some black people believe some white people have benefits due to their skin color but they don't want people to believe black people have benefits due to their skin color?

Also there's two sides to the coin with white privilege from what I've seen. There's a more reasonable group that believes that believes much of society is tailored to white people (the U.S. Is 77% white so go figure) things like, and these are real arguments I've heard from people, band aids are white skin tone and white people often have names everyone can pronounce. Arguments like these are either petty or ridiculous in my opinion but the people that present them are generally reasonable.

Then there's the group that believes America is a racist, hateful nation with systems in place that benefit only white people.

To clarify further, take my personal opinion or thoughts/beliefs away, they aren't a factor here. I only want to hear YOUR beliefs on the subject. What do you think about white privilege? Anything you need to say to convey your point is fair game. Be that personal experience, personal thoughts on the matter. ANYTHING. I want to hear your opinion and everything that comes with it.

[lovbyts]

Omg that is so funny. I've never heard the band aid argument before. People who think of this stuff must have no life.

[RigPig]

Omg that is so funny. I've never heard the band aid argument before. People who think of this stuff must have no life.

Google: "are band aids racist" lololol.

[lovbyts]

Google: "are band aids racist" lololol.

Thats just to funny. I think I did hear that long time ago but I just ignore things like that because its a waste of time and life.

[RigPig]

Not just for Whiteys anymore!!

[RigPig]

Couldn't agree more. LB

[fitnesstrainer]

Omg that is so funny. I've never heard the band aid argument before. People who think of this stuff must have no life.

I'm telling you when war comes to this country again well, the people worried about this petty garbage will probably be the first to go.

[DB1982]

Just FYI - white privilege doesn't really have anything to do with most of this, or white people ever struggling. Do you think your parents didn't reap the benefits of things, just because their skin was white? I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about what 'white privilege' means. Maybe the OP even meant something different than white privilege.

It's about the privileges that white people enjoy just as a result of their skin colour. For example, when someone white gets into Cal Berkeley, no one thinks they were admitted only because their skin is whiite. But black people admitted have people thinking they were less qualified, but admitted just because their skin is black.

(sorry Bonaparte, for even skating on the edge of affirmative action )

NOPE my parents didn't benefit one bits because their skin color. They benefited from working hard and doing what's right.

And owning their own mistakes in life and not blaming others for their failures.

And for you to ASSume different about people in which you only know based on the color of there skin. Shows where the true problem lies.

There's the truth.

I was the minority in my neighborhood and school.
But never once did I blame my problems on others.
And that's the problem these days.
Nobody wants to take accountability for their mistakes or failures.
Everyone points the finger.

Just remember when you point the finger at someone else. There's 3 pointing back at you.