Turkey About to Fall?

[MuscleScience]

Turkey is under a military coup attempt at the moment. It would be a big deal for the EU if The Ankara Government fell, especially know.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkish-m...201213836.html

[BG]

PM said Democracy will prevail, time will tell. World is f'd up right now and heading down fast.

Cant imagine what is going to happen when either Hillary or Donny gets in office.

[MuscleScience]

PM said Democracy will prevail, time will tell. World is f'd up right now and heading down fast. Cant imagine what is going to happen when either Hillary or Donny gets in office.

turkey is feeling the full weight of the migration Crisis. Funny how not one, not a single Muslim country is compassionate enough to take in their own.

[MuscleScience]

Looks like the military won out.

12:35 a.m.

The White House says President Barack Obama has been briefed on developments in key NATO ally Turkey where the military claims to have seized power in a coup.

[InternalFire]

hope not, have alot of business plans there in next months...

[Igifuno]

The existing govt reported that they are taking back control. Not sure if it's just propaganda or not.

[MuscleScience]

The existing govt reported that they are taking back control. Not sure if it's just propaganda or not.

either way, it doesn't bode well for Turkey and the EU.

[InternalFire]

only time will tell at this point I guess, whatever happens let it happen quick and stable-out the govt where there it be new or old.

If the worst comes to worst it may create ongoing chaos and nothing ever dies-down, country could become a war-zone which is not what anybody wants nor needs.

So far to my perspective things dont look good. Weaklings dont just take and control group of military and get busted soon after, from what it looks there is something unseen to unfold, and I dont even want to think about it, best it is to give it some time and expect for the best

[marcus300]

Fuk hope my GH gets through

[MuscleScience]

Fuk hope my GH gets through

priorities lol


They way it sounds, it would be in the worlds best interest that the military does win. Erdogan wants a strict Muslim Caliphate, in opposition the the countries constitution.

[Euroholic]

Big changes normally happen quick like this. A strong pro western non islamic turkey(asia minor) is important in keeping the hordes out of europe. Now during all this instability would be a perfect time for the west to recapture constantinople and seal off land borders with the uncivilised lands of the east once and for all.

[MuscleScience]

Big changes normally happen quick like this. A strong pro western non islamic turkey(asia minor) is important in keeping the hordes out of europe. Now during all this instability would be a perfect time for the west to recapture constantinople and seal off land borders with the uncivilised lands of the east once and for all.

the west could have took Istanbul for at least the last 100 years. It's 100% Muslim. It's not like antiquity where people would either convert or be put to the sword. So it would be nothing but a suicide bomb fest until Muslim hands retook it.

[Euroholic]

the west could have took Istanbul for at least the last 100 years. It's 100% Muslim. It's not like antiquity where people would either convert or be put to the sword. So it would be nothing but a suicide bomb fest until Muslim hands retook it.

There needs to be a border. With a line drawn in the sand to keep the uncivilised islamic people of the east out of europe. Their countries are so unstable and horrible that they do not even want to live there. But they need to realise they are unwanted in the west because islam is not compatable with western idles of freedom and democracy. Islam is all about submitting to god. And follwing the example set by their so called prophet(hiv be upon him). And what is with islam struggling to separate church and state? Who cares who you call god inside your home but on the street you need to be a citizen first. Islam teaches different. You are a muslim first above all.

[MuscleScience]

There needs to be a border. With a line drawn in the sand to keep the uncivilised islamic people of the east out of europe. Their countries are so unstable and horrible that they do not even want to live there. But they need to realise they are unwanted in the west because islam is not compatable with western idles of freedom and democracy. Islam is all about submitting to god. And follwing the example set by their so called prophet(hiv be upon him). And what is with islam struggling to separate church and state? Who cares who you call god inside your home but on the street you need to be a citizen first. Islam teaches different. You are a muslim first above all.

I agree, Islamic society is not compatible with western society. But they don't have to have a western style of government to pull themselves out of the their dark ages. They are about 300-500 years behind the west in about every aspect as far as social progress. Much like Europe prior to the Renaissance.

[Euroholic]

I agree, Islamic society is not compatible with western society. But they don't have to have a western style of government to pull themselves out of the their dark ages. They are about 300-500 years behind the west in about every aspect as far as social progress. Much like Europe prior to the Renaissance.

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

They need a reformation. When i went to afghanistan i felt like i was in the biblical area. It was so archaic. They need to come to the year 2016. Even the year 1900 would be a good start for these savages. I do not even call islam a religion. It is a social political movement created out of the mind of a uncivlised fiend with a relgious undertone to coerce the uneducated masses and the people of the eastern lands ate it all up.

[MuscleScience]

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! They need a reformation. When i went to afghanistan i felt like i was in the biblical area. It was so archaic. They need to come to the year 2016. Even the year 1900 would be a good start for these savages. I do not even call islam a religion. It is a social political movement created out of the mind of a uncivlised fiend with a relgious undertone to coerce the uneducated masses and the people of the eastern lands ate it all up.

when my brother was in Dirtbagistan, he thought the boy rape stuff was just made up by shitty people. He said it was so shockingly rampit in the rural areas that it made him sick. And there was nothing he could do about it.

[BG]

Fuk hope my GH gets through

Lmao me too!

[Euroholic]

when my brother was in Dirtbagistan, he thought the boy rape stuff was just made up by shitty people. He said it was so shockingly rampit in the rural areas that it made him sick. And there was nothing he could do about it.

Ya mate its backwards land over there. I did not trust any of them. the west is to soft in how they go about these modern wars

[RaginCajun]

does anyone think that Erdogan started this 'coup' in attempt to gain more power?

seems he is purging people

looks like Iran part 2

https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkey-wi...ce.html?ref=gs

[BG]

does anyone think that Erdogan started this 'coup' in attempt to gain more power?

seems he is purging people

looks like Iran part 2

https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkey-wi...ce.html?ref=gs

How does that compare to Iran? When they had a pro-US president. Right now we are lucky that Edrogan works so much with us, Turkey would be a huge loss to the US.

[Tlolec the toilet]

Turkey is under a military coup attempt at the moment. It would be a big deal for the EU if The Ankara Government fell, especially know.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/turkish-m...201213836.html

whenever i see your post i think about the food bird! lol

[MuscleScience]

How does that compare to Iran? When they had a pro-US president. Right now we are lucky that Edrogan works so much with us, Turkey would be a huge loss to the US.

They would, but one day it could turn into a huge thorn in the side of The US.

[BG]

They would, but one day it could turn into a huge thorn in the side of The US.

Agreed, by not extraditing Gulen I dont blame them. We expect so much out of other countries, then when it comes to us we tell them to screw off. No way Obama will send back an"Islamic Extremist" who is a known Terrorist. He just frees them Guantanamo bay to kill more.

[MuscleScience]

Agreed, by not extraditing Gulen I dont blame them. We expect so much out of other countries, then when it comes to us we tell them to screw off. No way Obama will send back an"Islamic Extremist" who is a known Terrorist. He just frees them Guantanamo bay to kill more.

Looks like Edrogen is going to "purge," Turkey by the 10's of thousands. He will be a full on dictator in the coming years. Which is scary. Turkey I was suprised to learn has the second biggest Army in NATO.

[RaginCajun]

Looks like Edrogen is going to "purge," Turkey by the 10's of thousands. He will be a full on dictator in the coming years. Which is scary. Turkey I was suprised to learn has the second biggest Army in NATO.

No doubt he will become a dictator

That's what makes me think that he started the coup

[BG]

Wow very interesting. Do you think this is something he had to do in order to preserve Turkey? Along the lines of how Saddam held Iraq together?

[MuscleScience]

Who very interesting. Do you think this is something he had to do in order to preserve Turkey? Along the lines of how Saddam held Iraq together?

I have no doubt, I think a large portion of the Turkish population wants to be more secular.

[BG]

I have no doubt, I think a large portion of the Turkish population wants to be more secular.

Thats a bold move, gotta give him credit he's going for it. If they would extradite Gulen he would be in good shape. Thats something.

[Euroholic]

If you believe the rumours the usa helped stage the "coup" to keep him happy. And more likely to act as a buffer for the west.

[Euroholic]

Wow very interesting. Do you think this is something he had to do in order to preserve Turkey? Along the lines of how Saddam held Iraq together?

Muslims just seem to need a iron fist to rule them. They just do not know how to live normally. Iraq, Afghanistan, syria, lybia, not to mention how iran and the gulf states rule there countries.
As soon as you take the strong leader out of the equation the people just turn into pack animals. Thats not me being racist thats just the facts. Muslims really seem to need to be told how to behave and kept inline or they will just so their true colours. Which is barbarism.

[MuscleScience]

Muslims just seem to need a iron fist to rule them. They just do not know how to live normally. Iraq, Afghanistan, syria, lybia, not to mention how iran and the gulf states rule there countries.
As soon as you take the strong leader out of the equation the people just turn into pack animals. Thats not me being racist thats just the facts. Muslims really seem to need to be told how to behave and kept inline or they will just so their true colours. Which is barbarism.

I was recently in Europe and was appalled by the blatant propaganda placed in ever manageable location in public by government.

One that was very disturbing was the picture of a German woman handing a rose to a refugee mother that was dirty and crying with two cowering children. I saw this in the bathroom, gas station, and about every and similar things in public places.


But virtually across German TV and MSM, they said nothing about the New Years even mass sexual assaults. My friend that lives there didn't even hear about it until I sent him a link from a US news source.

[RaginCajun]

I was recently in Europe and was appalled by the blatant propaganda placed in ever manageable location in public by government.

One that was very disturbing was the picture of a German woman handing a rose to a refugee mother that was dirty and crying with two cowering children. I saw this in the bathroom, gas station, and about every and similar things in public places.


But virtually across German TV and MSM, they said nothing about the New Years even mass sexual assaults. My friend that lives there didn't even hear about it until I sent him a link from a US news source.

interesting that they didn't hear about that, guess their media is similar to ours. i find a lot of good articles about the US come from the overseas market

[MuscleScience]

interesting that they didn't hear about that, guess their media is similar to ours. i find a lot of good articles about the US come from the overseas market

I watch RT tv sometimes, it's Russian TV in English. They report on things you don't see in MSM. I don't think they mind making the US look bad lol.

[BG]

Muslims just seem to need a iron fist to rule them. They just do not know how to live normally. Iraq, Afghanistan, syria, lybia, not to mention how iran and the gulf states rule there countries.
As soon as you take the strong leader out of the equation the people just turn into pack animals. Thats not me being racist thats just the facts. Muslims really seem to need to be told how to behave and kept inline or they will just so their true colours. Which is barbarism.

100% agreed

[Euroholic]

I was recently in Europe and was appalled by the blatant propaganda placed in ever manageable location in public by government.

One that was very disturbing was the picture of a German woman handing a rose to a refugee mother that was dirty and crying with two cowering children. I saw this in the bathroom, gas station, and about every and similar things in public places.


But virtually across German TV and MSM, they said nothing about the New Years even mass sexual assaults. My friend that lives there didn't even hear about it until I sent him a link from a US news source.

I was recently in Europe and was appalled by the blatant propaganda placed in ever manageable location in public by government.

One that was very disturbing was the picture of a German woman handing a rose to a refugee mother that was dirty and crying with two cowering children. I saw this in the bathroom, gas station, and about every and similar things in public places.


But virtually across German TV and MSM, they said nothing about the New Years even mass sexual assaults. My friend that lives there didn't even hear about it until I sent him a link from a US news source.

I have relations in germany and they are not welcoming of these "people". It is starting to divide the nation.
I have no quarrel in giving temporary protection visas to people in need and then returning you when things slow down. But these "people" are not legitimate refugees. They are economic refugees. They can not be allowed to migrate there culture is archaic. They are so arrogant that they do not care how much of a burden they are to the host country. They are unwanted, unwelcome, uncivilised and they are a threat to the stability of the world.

[Euroholic]

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