chemical weapons attack in Syria

[marcus300]

Some of the footage and videos is absolutely horrendous.

Words fail me how cruel some people are but I'm not shocked in this day and age.

I hope the retaliation is fit for crime

[RaginCajun]

Yeah man so sad that people do that.

Looks like Israel attacked some Syrian bases earlier today

Why can’t everyone just love more and be happy. Too much hate in the world

[Capebuffalo]

We will be knocking the shit out of the bastards with in the next 24-48 hrs. Guaranteed.
Assad is now a target of opportunity. Meaning they see him they take him out. This is a new development.

[hammerheart]

Some of the footage and videos is absolutely horrendous.

Words fail me how cruel some people are but I'm not shocked in this day and age.

I hope the retaliation is fit for crime

Retaliate against who is the problem, it doesn't seem so obvious to me when all we got is fingers pointed and no actual proof.

[Capebuffalo]

Retaliate against who is the problem, it doesn't seem so obvious to me when all we got is fingers pointed and no actual proof.

Assad Russia Iran

[diesel101]

Take the leash of the dogs (military) and let them do what they are trained for.

[guitarzan]

Retaliate against who is the problem, it doesn't seem so obvious to me when all we got is fingers pointed and no actual proof.

Our military knows, I assure you

[marcus300]

Retaliate against who is the problem, it doesn't seem so obvious to me when all we got is fingers pointed and no actual proof.

They know exactly who even if it's not obvious to you the military know and hopefully soon they'll see the cost of such barbaric actions

[RaginCajun]

I was not alive during Vietnam but this seems awfully familiar from what I can recall.

The Russians have a strategic port in Syria so will be interesting to see how all this plays out.

[marcus300]

I was not alive during Vietnam but this seems awfully familiar from what I can recall.

The Russians have a strategic port in Syria so will be interesting to see how all this plays out.

It's going to be a shit storm very soon

[guitarzan]

It's going to be a shit storm very soon

Yep...

[marcus300]

Reports in Turkish media USS Donald Cook is a destroyer armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles Currently off the coast of SyriaIs being harassed by low-flying Russian warplanes

[Obs]

Can any of you imagine your child being killed in a manner such as this?

My life would no longer be but about one thing and that would be revenge at all costs. Shit like this is why the mid east is a never ending perpetual cause of suffering.

Governments play their games and the innocence suffers. Purest form of evil there is. There is no good guy or bad guy. There is just a lot of rich people playing games that need to die. They are no different than a drug cartel, just rich fucks seeking power and furthering their agenda.

The elites in islam only use islam to get the followers behind them the same as all other religions.

[marcus300]

Russia's Foreign Ministry has warned that any military operations launched against Syria on these false pretenses may lead to the "gravest consequences".

[Capebuffalo]

Russia's Foreign Ministry has warned that any military operations launched against Syria on these false pretenses may lead to the "gravest consequences".

Time to scramble some F-18’s

[RaginCajun]

seems Russia is claiming that there were no chemical weapons attack.

[dcycles]

We will be knocking the shit out of the bastards with in the next 24-48 hrs. Guaranteed.
Assad is now a target of opportunity. Meaning they see him they take him out. This is a new development.

We almost have to at this point.. they are trying to test the waters to see what we will do.. trump dog gonna rain some terror on them terries

[MuscleScience]

It’s does not make sense for Assad to have used Chemical weapons. It makes no sense for ISIS or Russia to have done it either. The only party that stands to gain anything from this is Iran. They would love nothing more than to drag Russia, Israel and The US into a full scale conflict. While The US are throwing down. Iran could swoop into Iraq and Syria while the US’s attention is focused on a large scale military action against Two superpowers.

Unless China thinks it’s economic future is in Africa or the rest of Asia. I don’t see Russia wanting anything to do with the US, unless they have some significant allies.

[marcus300]

US President Donald Trump has promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria, as Western leaders consider what action to take.

"We have a lot of options militarily," he told reporters. He added that a response would be decided "shortly".

Mr Trump said the US was getting some "good clarity" on who was responsible for the incident in Douma on Saturday.

Medical sources say dozens were killed in the alleged attack but exact numbers are impossible to verify.

Mr Trump also discussed the incident with French President Emmanuel Macron late on Monday, and both leaders expressed a desire for a "firm response".

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has said she "utterly condemns" the "barbaric" alleged chemical weapons attack and called for backers of President Bashar al-Assad to be held to account.

The condemnation from Western leaders follows a tense meeting at the UN Security Council in which the US and Russia traded harsh words over the incident.

Russian representative Vassily Nebenzia said the alleged attack was staged and warned that US military action in response could have "grave repercussions".

US envoy Nikki Haley said Russia - a Syrian military backer - had the "blood of Syrian children" on its hands and branded President Assad a "monster".

Ms Haley has called for a vote on Tuesday on a draft resolution to set up a new inquiry into the use of chemical weapons in Syria.

But Russia says it cannot support the proposal because it contains "unacceptable elements".

What happened on Saturday?

The Syrian-American Medical Society said more than 500 people were brought to medical centres in Douma, in the Eastern Ghouta region, near the capital Damascus, with symptoms "indicative of exposure to a chemical agent".

It said this included breathing difficulties, bluish skin, mouth foaming, corneal burns and "the emission of chlorine-like odour".

Neither the death toll nor what exactly occurred can be verified as the area is blocked off with access denied.

The estimates of how many people died in the suspected chemical attack range from 42 to more than 60 people, but medical groups say numbers could rise as rescue workers gain access to basements where hundreds of families had sought refuge from bombing.

The French representative at the UN Security Council said poison gas had deliberately been used as it could seep down to the basements.

The US, France and UK have led international condemnation of the alleged attack, with the Syrian government and its Russian backers denying any responsibility.

What did Russia say at the UN?

Mr Nebenzia, presenting Russia's case that rebels in Douma staged the event for their own ends, painted the incident and its fallout as part of a US-led effort to hurt Russia with a "broad arsenal of methods", including slander, insults and "hawkish rhetoric".

In an angry statement, he invited investigators from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to fly to Syria as soon as Tuesday, saying that Russian troops would escort them to the site of the alleged attack.
◾UK PM condemns 'barbaric attack' in Syria

Moscow has said its experts have not found "any trace of chlorine or any other chemical substance used against civilians".

Mr Nebenzia said the tone taken against Russia had gone beyond what was acceptable even during the Cold War and warned against a US military response.

"Armed force under mendacious pretext against Syria, where, at the request of the legitimate government of a country, Russian troops have been deployed, could lead to grave repercussions," he said.

What is the wider context?

Tensions between Russia and the West have plunged to their worst level in decades, following the poisoning in March of an ex-spy in England that the UK blamed on Moscow, and alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US election.
◾Russia v the West: Is this a new Cold War?
◾The Cold War explained
◾Viewpoint: Chemical weapons ‘threat to West’

The poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia with what the British government says was a military-grade Novichok nerve agent of a type developed by Russia led to the mass expulsion of Russian diplomats by Western allies, to which Moscow responded in kind.
Syria 'chemical attack': Trump pledges 'forceful' US response - BBC News

[marcus300]

US President Donald Trump has promised a "forceful" response to the alleged chemical attack in Syria, as Western leaders consider what action to take.

"We have a lot of options militarily," he told reporters. He added that a response would be decided "shortly".

Mr Trump said the US was getting some "good clarity" on who was responsible for the incident in Douma on Saturday.

Medical sources say dozens were killed in the alleged attack but exact numbers are impossible to verify.

Mr Trump also discussed the incident with French President Emmanuel Macron late on Monday, and both leaders expressed a desire for a "firm response".

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has said she "utterly condemns" the "barbaric" alleged chemical weapons attack and called for backers of President Bashar al-Assad to be held to account.

The condemnation from Western leaders follows a tense meeting at the UN Security Council in which the US and Russia traded harsh words over the incident.

Russian representative Vassily Nebenzia said the alleged attack was staged and warned that US military action in response could have "grave repercussions".

US envoy Nikki Haley said Russia - a Syrian military backer - had the "blood of Syrian children" on its hands and branded President Assad a "monster".

Ms Haley has called for a vote on Tuesday on a draft resolution to set up a new inquiry into the use of chemical weapons in Syria.

But Russia says it cannot support the proposal because it contains "unacceptable elements".

What happened on Saturday?

The Syrian-American Medical Society said more than 500 people were brought to medical centres in Douma, in the Eastern Ghouta region, near the capital Damascus, with symptoms "indicative of exposure to a chemical agent".

It said this included breathing difficulties, bluish skin, mouth foaming, corneal burns and "the emission of chlorine-like odour".

Neither the death toll nor what exactly occurred can be verified as the area is blocked off with access denied.

The estimates of how many people died in the suspected chemical attack range from 42 to more than 60 people, but medical groups say numbers could rise as rescue workers gain access to basements where hundreds of families had sought refuge from bombing.

The French representative at the UN Security Council said poison gas had deliberately been used as it could seep down to the basements.

The US, France and UK have led international condemnation of the alleged attack, with the Syrian government and its Russian backers denying any responsibility.

What did Russia say at the UN?

Mr Nebenzia, presenting Russia's case that rebels in Douma staged the event for their own ends, painted the incident and its fallout as part of a US-led effort to hurt Russia with a "broad arsenal of methods", including slander, insults and "hawkish rhetoric".

In an angry statement, he invited investigators from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to fly to Syria as soon as Tuesday, saying that Russian troops would escort them to the site of the alleged attack.
◾UK PM condemns 'barbaric attack' in Syria

Moscow has said its experts have not found "any trace of chlorine or any other chemical substance used against civilians".

Mr Nebenzia said the tone taken against Russia had gone beyond what was acceptable even during the Cold War and warned against a US military response.

"Armed force under mendacious pretext against Syria, where, at the request of the legitimate government of a country, Russian troops have been deployed, could lead to grave repercussions," he said.

What is the wider context?

Tensions between Russia and the West have plunged to their worst level in decades, following the poisoning in March of an ex-spy in England that the UK blamed on Moscow, and alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US election.
◾Russia v the West: Is this a new Cold War?
◾The Cold War explained
◾Viewpoint: Chemical weapons ‘threat to West’

The poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia with what the British government says was a military-grade Novichok nerve agent of a type developed by Russia led to the mass expulsion of Russian diplomats by Western allies, to which Moscow responded in kind.
Syria 'chemical attack': Trump pledges 'forceful' US response - BBC News

[Beetlegeuse]

Arabs are big on invoking the No True Scotsman fallacy. The Quran forbids one Muslim to slay another, but anybody pisses me off obviously couldn't be a "true" Muslim, therefore I may rightfully slay them. And apostate Muslims are especially deserving of a gruesome death.

Retaliate against who is the problem, it doesn't seem so obvious to me when all we got is fingers pointed and no actual proof.

Not so obvious to you ?

How many human assets are you running in Syria? How much of the magnetic spectrum are you collecting and analyzing? How many overhead surveillance platforms do you have dedicated to monitoring that conflict? And how many samples of the particular agent that was used have you analyzed?

Regardless what "proof" they might have, you'll never learn the full truth of it (nor will I) because, above all, intelligence services have to protect their sources, methods and capabilities. It's not for nothing that the US Army's Military Intelligence branch once used the sphinx as its emblem (it's still on the crest of the Intelligence Center at Ft Huachuca, Az). Because the sphinx has stood mute for millennia. They don't even talk to each other unless they absolutely have to. It's the only way secrets can be kept.

That's also why there are so many wise-cracks about "military intelligence" being an 'oxymoron.' Because intelligence services on the whole can't explain their mistakes without revealing sources, methods or capabilities, and those three things are their most precious secret assets. So they're not in the habit of explaining. And when they do, they're probably lying. But usually they say nothing and endure the ridicule, whether it's deserved or not. Because the perfect poker player has no 'tells.'

Chemical weapons cooks all have a signature, just like terrorist bomb makers do. That's why the US keeps lab samples of every chemical or biological weapon they can collect (even though the US is sworn never to use biological weapons). So even if none of our surveillance assets saw who deployed this agent in Syria (which is highly unlikely), they still have a 'fingerprint' that allows it to be traced back to its creator.


Besides, French Intelligence (now there's an oxymoron) determined that Assad had used Sarin gas, also in April of last year. So you know A. he's got it, and B. he's willing and able to use it. The rest doesn't take much of a leap of faith.

[Couchlockd]

Russia has very very large thermo-nuclear bombs to make up for thier lack of precise accuracy.

this should get very interesting soon

[MuscleScience]

Arabs are big on invoking the No True Scotsman fallacy. The Quran forbids one Muslim to slay another, but anybody pisses me off obviously couldn't be a "true" Muslim, therefore I may rightfully slay them. And apostate Muslims are especially deserving of a gruesome death.



Not so obvious to you ?

How many human assets are you running in Syria? How much of the magnetic spectrum are you collecting and analyzing? How many overhead surveillance platforms do you have dedicated to monitoring that conflict? And how many samples of the particular agent that was used have you analyzed?

Regardless what "proof" they might have, you'll never learn the full truth of it (nor will I) because, above all, intelligence services have to protect their sources, methods and capabilities. It's not for nothing that the US Army's Military Intelligence branch once used the sphinx as its emblem (it's still on the crest of the Intelligence Center at Ft Huachuca, Az). Because the sphinx has stood mute for millennia. They don't even talk to each other unless they absolutely have to. It's the only way secrets can be kept.

That's also why there are so many wise-cracks about "military intelligence" being an 'oxymoron.' Because intelligence services on the whole can't explain their mistakes without revealing sources, methods or capabilities, and those three things are their most precious secret assets. So they're not in the habit of explaining. And when they do, they're probably lying. But usually they say nothing and endure the ridicule, whether it's deserved or not. Because the perfect poker player has no 'tells.'

Chemical weapons cooks all have a signature, just like terrorist bomb makers do. That's why the US keeps lab samples of every chemical or biological weapon they can collect (even though the US is sworn never to use biological weapons). So even if none of our surveillance assets saw who deployed this agent in Syria (which is highly unlikely), they still have a 'fingerprint' that allows it to be traced back to its creator.


Besides, French Intelligence (now there's an oxymoron) determined that Assad had used Sarin gas, also in April of last year. So you know A. he's got it, and B. he's willing and able to use it. The rest doesn't take much of a leap of faith.

Yes exactly, they can get it down to the region and even the plant it was made in. Every area has a slightly different isotope signatures.

[guitarzan]

Russia has very very large thermo-nuclear bombs to make up for thier lack of precise accuracy.

this should get very interesting soon

Yep, and a shit ton of them

[marcus300]

Russia has urged the US to avoid taking military action in response to an alleged chemical attack in Syria.

"I would once again beseech you to refrain from the plans that you're currently developing," Moscow's UN envoy Vasily Nebenzia said on Tuesday.

He warned Washington that it will "bear responsibility" for any "illegal military adventure" it carries out.

But Western leaders say they have agreed to work together to target those responsible for the attack in Douma.

French President Emmanuel Macron said any strikes would target Syrian government chemical facilities.

UK agrees Syria action with US and FranceSyria 'chemical attack': What we knowWhy is there a war in Syria?

The warning from Moscow came during a divided meeting of the UN Security Council in which a proposal to open a new inquiry into the alleged attack failed to pass.

Russia vetoed the US-drafted resolution and China abstained. A counter-measure proposed by Moscow also failed to garner enough support.

The US proposal called for an independent investigation into claims that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime carried out the suspected chemical attack on the rebel-held town of Douma, in the Eastern Ghouta region.

Syria - which receives military backing from Russia - denies being behind any chemical attack.

A team from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) is due to deploy to Syria "shortly" to determine whether banned waepons were used in Douma.

But the OPCW will not seek to establish who was responsible for the attack.

Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionNikki Haley and Vasily Nebenzia clashed at the UN

The UN session was the latest in a series of showdowns between Russia and the US and saw harsh words exchanged between the countries.

Mr Nebenzia accused the US of "planting this resolution" as a "pretext" to justify military action.

"We could find ourselves on the threshold of some very sad and serious events," he said.

US envoy Nikki Haley responded by calling the vote a "travesty".

"Russia has trashed the credibility of the council," she said.

BBC news

[guitarzan]

I think Putin is bluffing, he knows he can't win, just like that little shit ass in N. Korea. Why would they wanna give up their luxury lifestyles?

[marcus300]

President Donald Trump has tweeted that Russia should "get ready" for missiles to be fired into Syria, in response to an alleged chemical attack at the weekend.

Senior Russian figures had threatened to meet any US strikes with a response.

Mr Trump had promised a "forceful" reply to the suspected attack.

President Bashar al-Assad's government, which receives military backing from Russia, denies being behind any chemical attack.

In his tweet, Mr Trump called Mr Assad a "gas killing animal".

On Saturday, Syrian opposition activists, rescue workers and medics said the rebel-held town of Douma in the Eastern Ghouta region had been attacked by government forces using bombs filled with toxic chemicals.

The Syrian-American Medical Society said more than 500 people had been found with symptoms "indicative of exposure to a chemical agent", and on Wednesday the World Health Organization demanded access to the area to verify reports from its partners that 70 people had died.

BBC news

[RaginCajun]

Looks like it is on from Trump’s tweets today

Fucker is on fire, his thumbs have to have blisters

Getting interesting for sure

[guitarzan]

God I love trump!

[marcus300]

UK submarines move within missile range of Syria as Theresa May convenes 'war cabinet' and prepares to brush aside MPs’ demands for a vote before joining military action on Assad

Read more: Theresa May convenes ?war cabinet? tomorrow over Syria | Daily Mail Online
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UK submarines move within missile range of Syria as Theresa May convenes 'war cabinet' and prepares to brush aside MPs’ demands for a vote before joining military action on Assad

Read more: Theresa May convenes ?war cabinet? tomorrow over Syria | Daily Mail Online
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[Couchlockd]

well its been 24-48 hours. nothing yet?

[RaginCajun]

well its been 24-48 hours. nothing yet?

seems they are awaiting proof that it was in fact, chemical weapons, and who actually fired them.

was it Assad? they are claiming that the videos are fake and from some terrorist organization. looked real to me

was it Iran?

will be a tense weekend, that's for sure

[Couchlockd]

seems they are awaiting proof that it was in fact, chemical weapons, and who actually fired them.

was it Assad? they are claiming that the videos are fake and from some terrorist organization. looked real to me

was it Iran?

will be a tense weekend, that's for sure

no I don't want one more broken bullshit promise from this guy who I campaigned for and voted for.

he ain't done shit but tweet hot air. done next to nothing on any of his promises. I'm feeling voters remorse.

3 days ago he said he'd take action. he's 24 hours late,

when is he going to follow through?

[RaginCajun]

no I don't want one more broken bullshit promise from this guy who I campaigned for and voted for.

he ain't done shit but tweet hot air. done next to nothing on any of his promises. I'm feeling voters remorse.

3 days ago he said he'd take action. he's 24 hours late,

when is he going to follow through?

Hasn’t done shit? He’s accomplished around 60% of what he set out to do.

He is setting up a meeting with Kim from NK, which will be historic.

As I stated before about Syria, this is similar to Vietnam, we don’t want to kill any Russians out there. Hairy slope.

[Obs]

Hasn’t done shit? He’s accomplished around 60% of what he set out to do.

He is setting up a meeting with Kim from NK, which will be historic.

As I stated before about Syria, this is similar to Vietnam, we don’t want to kill any Russians out there. Hairy slope.

"My first day in office I will repeal obamacare."
Thanks for the slight mod that takes effect in 2019

"I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it"

Suspending immigration from terror prone places....

He is like every other politician. Get a group behind you and deliver the same mediocre bullshit.

Keep rooting rep. or dem. like NFL football teams keep watching nothing change. The NFL will still make all the rules and collect the money that makes you stamp your feet and cheer at the TV.


Rep sheep vs dem sheep
YOU COULD NOT VOTE IN ENOUGH PEOPLE TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY. THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY ARE THE PROBLEM, NOT THE POLITICIANS.

My advice to all don't waste your life on it.

Trump is a cocksucker sitting on a plane with a $50k dollar glass of wine same as any other elite. He does not give a fuck about you any more than hillary does. He has got where he is by making people that cant see past their nose think he is "Analright kinda guy".


His first month it looked like he was gonna accomplish 60% of his intentions.
As always none of them were.

You are gonna get this:

Whatever the masses want.

The masses are grade c average stupid motherfuckers that have no idea what makes the world turn and America rich.
About 20-30% will be satisfied with whatever is being done at the time. Then we will elect a guy from the opposite team.

Rinse lather and repeat.

If you hang your interests on a politician you are blind to all history.

Lol! "This guy will be different!"

Sorry billy, you are still getting the same shit sandwich.

[marcus300]

France announce they have evidence

[Couchlockd]

And Trump announces beforehand his exact plans

Something he said Obama was retarded for doing and that he would never do

So he gives them fair warning so they can clear all of their equipment and vehicles and airplanes and jet fighters out of the way so we can go waste billions of dollars in missiles and bombing an empty Airfield that will be repaired in 2 weeks just like he did last time

How are we as Citizens still falling for this bullshit

[Beetlegeuse]

Mad Dog Mattis announced earlier today that the decision to attack Syria hasn't yet been taken.

Also, according to an Arabic-language London-based newspaper, Assad has gone to ground. Which could be a spanner in the works, presuming the US is planning on killing him. But I doubt that's in the tea leaves because orchestrating regime change in the Middle East is always an extremely dicey option, moreso in a place where there's already a civil war in progress.

[hammerheart]

seems they are awaiting proof that it was in fact, chemical weapons, and who actually fired them.

was it Assad? they are claiming that the videos are fake and from some terrorist organization. looked real to me

was it Iran?

will be a tense weekend, that's for sure

It doesn't really matter in the end it's just an excuse for them to fire "new, beautiful, smart missiles" and drop some bombs on an already devastated nation, and they want you to believe it's the sure way to end an ongoing conflict lmao (it won't).

[marcus300]

The UK government is "waiting for instructions" from Donald Trump about whether to launch a missile strike on Syria, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

The Labour leader spoke out after Cabinet ministers agreed "on the need to take action" in Syria to "deter the further use of chemical weapons".

Ministers said it was "highly likely" the Assad regime was responsible for a suspected chemical attack.

But Mr Corbyn said military action was unlikely to solve the situation.