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    what's worse? (should be interesting)

    just kicking idea around in head about opinions on something. just for pure entertainment purposes and some fun.

    what is the worse situation?

    scenario 1; legit gear (proper dosed and clean) with bunk anciliaries and pct.

    OR..

    scenario 2; bunk gear (severely under dosed or not dosed at all) and legit anciliaries and pct.

    assuming in situation 1, something like tren or estrogen sensutive people that need the caber and AI's. and no mid cycle bloods to show you were to go.

    what would mess your body up worse.?

    I realize this is all mostly going to be opinion. maybe some will come with science backed statements. all the better.

    I'm going to say the worst would be bunk gear and legit On cycle and post cycle therapy drugs

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    I would rather have good gear. I'm not gyno sensitive, and I can take viagra!
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    I'd rather have good gear too. The perks of living in Romania it's that I get all my anciliaries and pct straight from the pharmacy.

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    absolutely would prefer to have the legit gear! if you have legit gear and you have access to all diff AAS and you know how to stack things, you can pretty much throw all ancillaries out the window.

    examples-
    say your estrogen sensitive.
    just run 100mg per week of Test and 800mg per week of Primo and 500mg of Mast. you'll have zero issues. in fact your estrogen may end up getting to low (both primo and mast lower estrogen). same with EQ, even though it aromatizes to a small degree, it also converts to an enzyme in the body that is an anti estrogen enzyme.. fact is the longer you run EQ the more of this enzyme builds up in your body and your estrogen begins dropping naturally (with no AI).

    Prolactin sensitive.
    fine if you want to run a 19 nor do it but just keep the dosage low. 200mg per week of Tren or NPP.. throw in Masteron with it because Msteron blocks prolactin receptors in the body. easy, no caber needed.

    if you got legit gear and you know what your doing, then theres endless possibilities . We don't even need Ancillaries with the full array of sterids we have that do so many different things.


    As for no PCT - fuck it who needs it. get on TRT or recover naturally. heck speeding up your HPTA recovery by a couple weeks with cancer drugs probably isn't really worth it anyways. unless your planning to get on cycle again right away, you don't really need that quick of a recovery.. plenty of guys on here and elsewhere don't really need to do a PCT, they'd be just fine doing it naturally (but thats not the popular thing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    absolutely would prefer to have the legit gear! if you have legit gear and you have access to all diff AAS and you know how to stack things, you can pretty much throw all ancillaries out the window.

    examples-
    say your estrogen sensitive.
    just run 100mg per week of Test and 800mg per week of Primo and 500mg of Mast. you'll have zero issues. in fact your estrogen may end up getting to low (both primo and mast lower estrogen). same with EQ, even though it aromatizes to a small degree, it also converts to an enzyme in the body that is an anti estrogen enzyme.. fact is the longer you run EQ the more of this enzyme builds up in your body and your estrogen begins dropping naturally (with no AI).

    Prolactin sensitive.
    fine if you want to run a 19 nor do it but just keep the dosage low. 200mg per week of Tren or NPP.. throw in Masteron with it because Msteron blocks prolactin receptors in the body. easy, no caber needed.

    if you got legit gear and you know what your doing, then theres endless possibilities . We don't even need Ancillaries with the full array of sterids we have that do so many different things.


    As for no PCT - fuck it who needs it. get on TRT or recover naturally. heck speeding up your HPTA recovery by a couple weeks with cancer drugs probably isn't really worth it anyways. unless your planning to get on cycle again right away, you don't really need that quick of a recovery.. plenty of guys on here and elsewhere don't really need to do a PCT, they'd be just fine doing it naturally (but thats not the popular thing)
    Did I mention how much I appreciate your info?
    I have never even looked twice at masteron.
    Cutting is never an issue for me so I have always overlooked it. Tren on a bulk keeps me lean enough I don't care about cutting.

    I didnt realize how many uses it had.

    Also love that last paragraph about pct. I gradually discovered this on my own though never voiced it. Pct is the very reason I went on trt. I was either gonna have to leave AAS or get on trt.

    People talk about tren rage and blah blah too much test... I would literally destroy my life during and two weeks after cycle. I felt bad beyond angry with crashed test and couldnt hold it together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Did I mention how much I appreciate your info?
    I have never even looked twice at masteron .
    Cutting is never an issue for me so I have always overlooked it. Tren on a bulk keeps me lean enough I don't care about cutting.

    I didnt realize how many uses it had.
    the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper with AAS

    I recently just had a client tell me he is suffering from really bad back acne that just came out of no where.. he had been running Test, Mast, Tren. the tren was dropped and deca added in. two weeks later is when the bad acne flared up. thought it was possibly a reaction to the deca itself, but I'm like no it takes way longer then that for deca to kick in and get to saturation levels... I asked "did you drop the Masteron when you dropped the tren" . his answer was "yes" . I'm like your probably having some prolactin "rebound" from dropping the masteron and thats causing the hormonal flux and the acne or you have prolactin induced acne . told him to jump back on the Masteron ASAP and that will block the prolactin receptors and hopefully get things under control.

    thats just one small example.. but yes, so many different drugs have a whole host of different uses. we just gotta figure out how all those things work together .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    the rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper with AAS

    I recently just had a client tell me he is suffering from really bad back acne that just came out of no where.. he had been running Test, Mast, Tren . the tren was dropped and deca added in. two weeks later is when the bad acne flared up. thought it was possibly a reaction to the deca itself, but I'm like no it takes way longer then that for deca to kick in and get to saturation levels... I asked "did you drop the Masteron when you dropped the tren" . his answer was "yes" . I'm like your probably having some prolactin "rebound" from dropping the masteron and thats causing the hormonal flux and the acne or you have prolactin induced acne . told him to jump back on the Masteron ASAP and that will block the prolactin receptors and hopefully get things under control.

    thats just one small example.. but yes, so many different drugs have a whole host of different uses. we just gotta figure out how all those things work together .
    Interesting.
    I get really bad acne at the beginning and end of every cycle. This time I have none...
    Actually had me worried about the gear.

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    what I should say is

    without knowing it, and having only whatvyiu have on,hand.

    would taking bunk test, and dosing real AI's and serms be terribly more unhealthy than taking real test and needing real AI's and serms and doing bunk AI's and serms?

    like "WTF, I been eating real adex and nolva and just injection canola oil"

    or "WTF, I been blasting the shit out if real gear and neefing real anciliaries but they been fake the whole time"

    now I know you should know and see if you got real one or the other. but lets leave common sense aside for sake of discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Interesting.
    I get really bad acne at the beginning and end of every cycle. This time I have none...
    Actually had me worried about the gear.
    thats the most common times, acne is generally from hormone fluctuations or elevated DHT.. if you inject more often and keep things really dialed in then you'll have less acne (but then suddenly when you start coming off the drugs all the sudden acne flares up again, thats cause hormones are way out of balance again).

    people ridicule guys that stay on gear year round. but truth is if they do it with reasonable dosages they can really get dialed in and reach a state of 'homeostasis' sort of speak with the gear usage.. coming off is just going to throw them into a hormonal mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    thats the most common times, acne is generally from hormone fluctuations or elevated DHT.. if you inject more often and keep things really dialed in then you'll have less acne (but then suddenly when you start coming off the drugs all the sudden acne flares up again, thats cause hormones are way out of balance again).

    people ridicule guys that stay on gear year round. but truth is if they do it with reasonable dosages they can really get dialed in and reach a state of 'homeostasis' sort of speak with the gear usage.. coming off is just going to throw them into a hormonal mess.
    Be honest...
    Your just parroting what others have told you!

    Lmao! Jk

    I like your one of a kind honesty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    thats the most common times, acne is generally from hormone fluctuations or elevated DHT.. if you inject more often and keep things really dialed in then you'll have less acne (but then suddenly when you start coming off the drugs all the sudden acne flares up again, thats cause hormones are way out of balance again).

    people ridicule guys that stay on gear year round. but truth is if they do it with reasonable dosages they can really get dialed in and reach a state of 'homeostasis' sort of speak with the gear usage.. coming off is just going to throw them into a hormonal mess.
    I'm not far from being a year round guy. I ran 7 months last year, and only stopped because I had something abnormal going on. Found out is was my gallbladder, and nothing to do with the aas. To me, it makes more sense to run low dose all year than high dose twice a year, unless you are not trt. I've run so much t3 in the last year I may be dependent on it. Fuck it, my mom as been taking something for low thyroid since her early twenties and she's healthy as she can be, she's 76
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    people ridicule guys that stay on gear year round. but truth is if they do it with reasonable dosages they can really get dialed in and reach a state of 'homeostasis' sort of speak with the gear usage.. coming off is just going to throw them into a hormonal mess.
    This is exactly what I tend to believe



    But, is it actually true? I have heard anything from, drop everything for 2-3 months to let your body rest to one month on one month off.


    Personally - I feel best with either QD or EOD injections of low doses. I seem to feel way better, my BW is just fine & I damn near have no sides - but, is my body still taking a beating from this? - I guess, I'll find out in a decade or 2
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    Good gear all the way.
    Itís much easier to get anchillaries legally through research companies last minute than look for more gear cause your shit is bunk as fuck.

    Worst case senario if sides are bad with good gear and pct bunk lower the dose and cruise till you get you hands on what you need


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