I remember my first beer...

[Mooseman33]

funny story.
there is a guy at my gym in florida that has legs just like Kel, age is in same range.

I always try to get him, I will say, good morning kel, or hey kel, hoping its the man. But i never get a response, guy looks at me like im talking to someone else.

so its not Kel

[GearHeaded]

this is where the difference comes in I think

domestic UGL are literally "under ground" because they have to be.. you can't make steroids legally in the US unless your an FDA approved facility providing to pharma.
think things like Monster labs, Hulk, AEL

some international "UGLs" are not actually "under ground" because its perfectly legal to make steroids in their country and sell to pharmacies or online or whatever. they actually have a pharma grade facility
think things like Vermodjie, Balkan


then there is true "pharma" gear thats manufactured by big pharma. in the US you can't get this shit without a script. however it can be "imported" because there is a lot more access in the international market. sure Bayer brand Primobolan can be counterfeited and faked and its common in asian countries to do that .. but the reason they are faking Bayer brand Primo is because its the best. but that does not mean its all fake and that pharmacies in Turkey where its legal to buy this stuff over the counter don't have legit Bayer Primo on their shelves


then there is the US "compounding pharmacies " .. this is what most TRT clinics use to get test to send to their 'patients'. the compound pharmacy is an FDA approved facility that can make these drugs and sell them.
the transaction is not between you and the compounding pharmacy itself. the doctor that wrote your script is getting paid by you directly (yes he has mark up) and the compounding pharmacy simply sends you your stuff.. these pharmacies work though clinics mainly and never sell direct. a lot of times what they are able to provide is somewhat limited


then there are 'rouge' compounding pharmacies.. these are the same as the above only they are not getting enough business through TRT clinics and they start to sell their products on the black market.


then there is Bob . he brews his gear in his basement after buying raws from China on Alibaba


idk . whatever

[Cuz]

this is where the difference comes in I think

domestic UGL are literally "under ground" because they have to be.. you can't make steroids legally in the US unless your an FDA approved facility providing to pharma.
think things like Monster labs, Hulk, AEL

some international "UGLs" are not actually "under ground" because its perfectly legal to make steroids in their country and sell to pharmacies or online or whatever. they actually have a pharma grade facility
think things like Vermodjie, Balkan


then there is true "pharma" gear thats manufactured by big pharma. in the US you can't get this shit without a script. however it can be "imported" because there is a lot more access in the international market. sure Bayer brand Primobolan can be counterfeited and faked and its common in asian countries to do that .. but the reason they are faking Bayer brand Primo is because its the best. but that does not mean its all fake and that pharmacies in Turkey where its legal to buy this stuff over the counter don't have legit Bayer Primo on their shelves


then there is the US "compounding pharmacies " .. this is what most TRT clinics use to get test to send to their 'patients'. the compound pharmacy is an FDA approved facility that can make these drugs and sell them.
the transaction is not between you and the compounding pharmacy itself. the doctor that wrote your script is getting paid by you directly (yes he has mark up) and the compounding pharmacy simply sends you your stuff.. these pharmacies work though clinics mainly and never sell direct. a lot of times what they are able to provide is somewhat limited


then there are 'rouge' compounding pharmacies.. these are the same as the above only they are not getting enough business through TRT clinics and they start to sell their products on the black market.


then there is Bob . he brews his gear in his basement after buying raws from China on Alibaba


idk . whatever

What is the difference in ugl deca and pharm grade deca? Could you go into detail?

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What is the difference in ugl deca and pharm grade deca? Could you go into detail?

UGL "deca " is simply generic nandrolone . where as 'deca-durabolin ' made by Organon (ie, big pharma) is a patented drug and the patent has never been sold and is likely locked up in a vault somewhere in India. what Organon makes and provides as 'deca durabolin ' is not just generic nandrolone. otherwise they wouldn't of done millions of dollars of research and making patents just to provide generic nandrolone.
china sells generic nandrolone. UGLs buy it and label it as "deca"


just fyi -- UGL "deca" is a great compound and has great effects for bodybuilding . but its NOT real deca

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some people will say , well nandrolone is nandrolone , right . its all gotta be 'deca '. um no.

think of this way..

give Gordan Ramsey (a world renown chef) , 16 oz of chicken, pasta, cream of mushroom, milk, herbs, etc.. and he is likely to whip up something amazing to eat with those raw ingredients.

now give your 8 year old son those same raw ingredients and see what the heck he does with it.


just cause the raw ingredients are the same does not mean the outcome is the same .


Deca Durabolin from Organon is the patented "Chef" deca . Ugl Nandrolone is just the raw ingredients

[Obs]

this is where the difference comes in I think

domestic UGL are literally "under ground" because they have to be.. you can't make steroids legally in the US unless your an FDA approved facility providing to pharma.
think things like Monster labs, Hulk, AEL

some international "UGLs" are not actually "under ground" because its perfectly legal to make steroids in their country and sell to pharmacies or online or whatever. they actually have a pharma grade facility
think things like Vermodjie, Balkan


then there is true "pharma" gear thats manufactured by big pharma. in the US you can't get this shit without a script. however it can be "imported" because there is a lot more access in the international market. sure Bayer brand Primobolan can be counterfeited and faked and its common in asian countries to do that .. but the reason they are faking Bayer brand Primo is because its the best. but that does not mean its all fake and that pharmacies in Turkey where its legal to buy this stuff over the counter don't have legit Bayer Primo on their shelves


then there is the US "compounding pharmacies " .. this is what most TRT clinics use to get test to send to their 'patients'. the compound pharmacy is an FDA approved facility that can make these drugs and sell them.
the transaction is not between you and the compounding pharmacy itself. the doctor that wrote your script is getting paid by you directly (yes he has mark up) and the compounding pharmacy simply sends you your stuff.. these pharmacies work though clinics mainly and never sell direct. a lot of times what they are able to provide is somewhat limited


then there are 'rouge' compounding pharmacies.. these are the same as the above only they are not getting enough business through TRT clinics and they start to sell their products on the black market.


then there is Bob . he brews his gear in his basement after buying raws from China on Alibaba


idk . whatever

No ypu dont know quiteas much as you think.

[Obs]

The china raws comefrom pharmaceutical companies just the same. Thats why we may be fucked after tge first.

[Obs]

I doubt you are ordering from balkan direct. So you use a ugl to get it. People break laws for you to get it.

I know how you feel about them. "They watched breaking bad too much."

I guess bodybuilders watched Schwarzenegger movies too much.

Done with this subject.
Dont know how anyone can use something many many time and continue to do so and bash it.

Lots of people went to prison and face it.
Those little brewers dont make much. Not nearly enough to be worth the risk and most use resellers of raws from pharmacies and you dont know if it will be good or not.

Tbh I think people got too soft being used to the idea that they can spend $500 and get three months of gear to their do in a few days.

Dea estimates that 99% of raws used for making black market roids in the US comes from china.

Those all trickle out of large chinese companies. If a reseller gets it then it may or may not be shit depending on if they skim.

Hard to find a good ugl.
Its like finding a loyal person.
The pharma grade has nothing on a good ugl.

Organon is not some grand superior thing to nandrolone and the chemical structure is known.
If organon is imperceptibly better thats nice but its not worth paying cialis price when taladafil china raws do the same job for 1/20 cost.

[kelkel]

funny story.
there is a guy at my gym in florida that has legs just like Kel, age is in same range.

I always try to get him, I will say, good morning kel, or hey kel, hoping its the man. But i never get a response, guy looks at me like im talking to someone else.

so its not Kel

Ha, funny! But in the next year or so either Florida or North Carolina is in my future....

[GearHeaded]

I doubt you are ordering from balkan direct. So you use a ugl to get it. People break laws for you to get it.

I know how you feel about them. "They watched breaking bad too much."

I guess bodybuilders watched Schwarzenegger movies too much.

Done with this subject.
Dont know how anyone can use something many many time and continue to do so and bash it.

Lots of people went to prison and face it.
Those little brewers dont make much. Not nearly enough to be worth the risk and most use resellers of raws from pharmacies and you dont know if it will be good or not.

Tbh I think people got too soft being used to the idea that they can spend $500 and get three months of gear to their do in a few days.

Dea estimates that 99% of raws used for making black market roids in the US comes from china.

Those all trickle out of large chinese companies. If a reseller gets it then it may or may not be shit depending on if they skim.

Hard to find a good ugl.
Its like finding a loyal person.
The pharma grade has nothing on a good ugl.

Organon is not some grand superior thing to nandrolone and the chemical structure is known.
If organon is imperceptibly better thats nice but its not worth paying cialis price when taladafil china raws do the same job for 1/20 cost.

I never once used the word "BETTER" .. UGL 'deca ' works damn good for what it is. but its not deca-durabolin and never will be.

I refer people to UGLs all the time. I've had UGLs send me free gear and ask me to rep for them.. but I don't rep for shit and never will.
the main reason I refer them is because customer service is top notch, they are bros just like us, and what they sell is legit and it works.
but its still not bayer test or Organon deca-durabolin or balkan Dbol or Iranian Anadrols.
I'm not saying its sub par by any means either. its just different , even though chemically its nearly the same


side note -

I forget to mention the veterinary supply places. yes you can get some legit Winstrol -v and Eq and deca from South America and Mexico vet suppliers


I'm not bashing UGLs. they have their place for sure.. but there is a difference in the products themselves. there is also a difference in the mindset. some guys that run UGLs basically go rouge and become drug dealers and scum bags. where as legitimate labs or small town brick and mortar pharmacies (that need to make a buck and stay in business) will sell you stuff thats legit just to keep the doors open.
someone that runs a vet supply business and sells steroids may have a completely different mind set then someone who buys raws from china and starts going all 'breaking bad' and brewing their gear and selling it

not saying anything is bad or anything is better then anything else . just different

[GearHeaded]

nobody is going to bust a small town pharmacy in Turkey for selling Primobolan to an international market

but if Joe Blow who iives in America starts buying primo raws and brewing his own stuff and bottles it.. then markets it on face book and online forums. then builds a little empire and brand out of it. then becomes careless and stupid and greedy.. he is likely going to end up in prison.

while in the meantime , the pharmacy in turkey or Mexico that sells to you without a prescription is going to keep on operating just fine

[Obs]

started drinking early yesterday .. don't remember half of these posts

I envy you.
Gf says I will be an alcoholic if I dont stop.
Just need something to take the edge off. If I don't I stay balls to the wall and can't be unwound.

[Obs]

nobody is going to bust a small town pharmacy in Turkey for selling Primobolan to an international market

but if Joe Blow who iives in America starts buying primo raws and brewing his own stuff and bottles it.. then markets it on face book and online forums. then builds a little empire and brand out of it. then becomes careless and stupid and greedy.. he is likely going to end up in prison.

while in the meantime , the pharmacy in turkey or Mexico that sells to you without a prescription is going to keep on operating just fine

They clearly dont have enough supply. They are a small drop in the bucket. The sheer amount of raws shipped to the US from chinese pharma companies is ridiculous.

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They clearly dont have enough supply. They are a small drop in the bucket. The sheer amount of raws shipped to the US from chinese pharma companies is ridiculous.

agree.. supply and demand. this is why I don't necessarily "bash" UGLs. they are in business because their is a demand.

if you buy "deca " from a UGL and you put on 15 pounds running 600mg of it. thats great. thats what nandrolone is supposed to do. buts its still not actual deca. but it still works. and guys are content with that and the demand will keep going up


this is also why doses can be so different now days and guys from the old school may say we take way too many drugs.. Lee Priest supposedly only ran 300mg of Deca and 20mg of Winny to get huge,, while your skinny fat dad bod guy is running 5x that amount.
cause they are NOT the same drugs

UGL drugs work. its just a different drug then the originals in some small way.

a fake Rolex watch can tell you the time just fine. it can work for 50 years without an issue. its always accurate.. but its still not a Rolex

[Obs]

agree.. supply and demand. this is why I don't necessarily "bash" UGLs. they are in business because their is a demand.

if you buy "deca " from a UGL and you put on 15 pounds running 600mg of it. thats great. thats what nandrolone is supposed to do. buts its still not actual deca. but it still works. and guys are content with that and the demand will keep going up


this is also why doses can be so different now days and guys from the old school may say we take way too many drugs.. Lee Priest supposedly only ran 300mg of Deca and 20mg of Winny to get huge,, while your skinny fat dad bod guy is running 5x that amount.
cause they are NOT the same drugs

UGL drugs work. its just a different drug then the originals in some small way.

a fake Rolex watch can tell you the time just fine. it can work for 50 years without an issue. its always accurate.. but its still not a Rolex

Lee priest did a lot of things other did not. I dont know seth feroces sources but with his money the only cycle of deca I saw him mention was 750mg wk. The pros protocols vary and are exaggerated both way via gossip online and also lies from them.

I have never used organon.

I used to bash ashop because of how long they took. I stopped that because like it or not they are one of the oldest sources. Yeah they screwed me around on orders forever and a day but they never sold a drop of bad gear and always ALWAYS delivered. I switched to domestic because I found someone just as good and trustworthy with much much faster delivery and customer service.

I have nothing but respect for legitimate sources. I know what goes through their mind. If I was single and childless I would be a source.

Unfortunately the recieving of raws is just to dangerous so I won't ever do it. I kicked it around for thousands of hours though. One time I even started to do it. Then I realized.... Nah... I know how this plays out.

If I hadn't already known what I would be doing the rest of my life and been a little younger I would have pulled the trigger.

I hope this ne regulation doesn't put a hurt on us all. I am certain it will though if the laws are as claimed.

[GearHeaded]

I think a lot of it has to do with personal experience

I've ran some domestic UGL stuff and thought to myself , "this is shit" . then I've ran a lot of stuff I've got from Eastern Europe and the Middle East, and even though shipping took forever, the effects were night and day.
20mg of Dbol from there blew me up .. yet 50mg of domestic UGL dbol, that only comes in 50mg tabs to begin with, didn't do shit but give me heart burn

I don't know what the difference was. if it was actually all the same 'drug' then the 50mg should of blew me up twice as much

I've got two clients that are members of this board that were running Tren . yet their weekly progress pics and check ins were not what I expected with their cycle and the amount of tren they were running.. I told them to drop their domestic source for now and try an international source. once that showed up and they started using it , things changed rather quickly.
but a third client ran the same domestic source anadrol and he blew up big time and did exactly what Anadrol was supposed to do.
so obviously the domestic UGL sells some good shit , but that batch of Tren they made must of been shit.

its all hit or miss . but I've had way more hits with International sources and sourcing things from foreign pharmacies then domestic UGL..
thats just where my confident level is at I guess. . I don't let my wife take domestic UGL steroids . only International "pharma" gear. same with a few local females I train.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

If it doesn't put me in hospital then it isn't good Tren .

The argument over Real vs Fake deca can be solved with a mass spectrometer.

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The argument over Real vs Fake deca can be solved with a mass spectrometer.

not true.. it can only be tested for it containing the base compound of Nandrolone . unless the testing facility has the actual patent details of deca-durabolin the brand, it can never be legitimately tested.


its just like making spaghetti sauce.. sure you can make it and test it out and say its spaghetti sauce. but unless you have the actual specific recipe of spaghetti sauce your grandma made then it will never be grannies spaghetti sauce

[Obs]

I think a lot of it has to do with personal experience

I've ran some domestic UGL stuff and thought to myself , "this is shit" . then I've ran a lot of stuff I've got from Eastern Europe and the Middle East, and even though shipping took forever, the effects were night and day.
20mg of Dbol from there blew me up .. yet 50mg of domestic UGL dbol, that only comes in 50mg tabs to begin with, didn't do shit but give me heart burn

I don't know what the difference was. if it was actually all the same 'drug' then the 50mg should of blew me up twice as much

I've got two clients that are members of this board that were running Tren . yet their weekly progress pics and check ins were not what I expected with their cycle and the amount of tren they were running.. I told them to drop their domestic source for now and try an international source. once that showed up and they started using it , things changed rather quickly.
but a third client ran the same domestic source anadrol and he blew up big time and did exactly what Anadrol was supposed to do.
so obviously the domestic UGL sells some good shit , but that batch of Tren they made must of been shit.

its all hit or miss . but I've had way more hits with International sources and sourcing things from foreign pharmacies then domestic UGL..
thats just where my confident level is at I guess. . I don't let my wife take domestic UGL steroids. only International "pharma" gear. same with a few local females I train.

Are you speaking of val? 99jt and I forget his name?

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Are you speaking of val? 99jt and I forget his name?

not specifically per se (I'm not pointing fingers), endless examples .. other guys here running Ael test at 500mg per week and total test levels tested at 600 ng/dl. so was so under dosed and weak it barely was not test in the first place. then guys run Vals test at low dosage and total test is like 2800 . so its obviously legit

my point is its always hit or miss with domestic UGL . and its not always their fault

I had a UGL send me free gear to test out hoping I'd promote them years ago (um yeah but I don't rep and promote UGL anyhow lol).. the gear was garbage.
you'd think if they sent me free gear cause they wanted me to promote them they would send their best stuff. right . the problem is not even they know half the time


yet I've gotten expired old gear from a shady person in another country and wasn't sure if it would even show up in the mail , yet it did and it kicked ass.

so I don't know man. its all hit or miss

[Obs]

not specifically per se (I'm not pointing fingers), endless examples .. other guys here running Ael test at 500mg per week and total test levels tested at 600 ng/dl. so was so under dosed and weak it barely was not test in the first place. then guys run Vals test at low dosage and total test is like 2800 . so its obviously legit

my point is its always hit or miss with domestic UGL . and its not always their fault

I had a UGL send me free gear to test out hoping I'd promote them years ago (um yeah but I don't rep and promote UGL anyhow lol).. the gear was garbage.
you'd think if they sent me free gear cause they wanted me to promote them they would send their best stuff. right . the problem is not even they know half the time


yet I've gotten expired old gear from a shady person in another country and wasn't sure if it would even show up in the mail , yet it did and it kicked ass.

so I don't know man. its all hit or miss

Ael is shit. They were 100% great until they split from bop and pumped out a bad batch of test after falling behind because they couldnt source enough raws.

If you have something to say about val please say it openly. Point fingers. I cant stand half hearted response.

You have someone in mind.

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If you have something to say about val please say it openly. Point fingers. I cant stand half hearted response. .

best customer service I've ever seen . super fast shipping. a quality respectful person. he would get way more gains if he ate ...(edit)

[Obs]

Like I said dont dance around shit being a politician.
If you think his tren was underdosed or anything else please say it.

You also should edit that shit out.

[GearHeaded]

don't think the tren was actual tren. the Anadrol was spot on and the bomb. Test was spot on as well

its hit or miss. it always is (I don't mean with Val .. I mean in this game entirely)

[GearHeaded]

if your diet and training are on point .. 350-600mg of Tren ace will completely transform your physique in a matter of a couple weeks.
thats why its the best contest prep drug on the planet.
also why I don't recommend running it past 6-8 weeks (cause it works damn fast in the first place).. if you can't get the tren results your looking for in 6 weeks or so then either your tren is bullshit or your diet and training are bullshit

also why I often suggest just 10-20mg per day of Tren on cycle (for non contest prep guys) . cause if its legit that shit is going to work wonders

"weak Tren" from a UGL . I don't know if thats even tren anyhow. heck the UGL does not even know

[Obs]

don't think the tren was actual tren. the Anadrol was spot on and the bomb. Test was spot on as well

its hit or miss. it always is (I don't mean with Val .. I mean in this game entirely)

Yet you were basing your results of a guy that has been cycling for two years and gained 20lbs because he is a total ecto. He started natty at 147lbs at 6' got to 180. Very hard gainer.

He was the only complaint from ONE batch of tren.
The same batch I shot 10ml of and believe me I know tren. You base you asessment off pics of someone not responding the way you would like... Welll he won't. In fact I cant believe he has gotten as far as he has.

Attachment 177640

This was random^^ about three or four hours ago.
SAME BATCH
with dozens having used the batch.... One had a complaint. I bet I know where he got his ideas from too.

You are bad for business with your asessments.

[GearHeaded]

I'm not sure what the beef is here Obs

UGLs have their place . Val is a great UGL.. if I need something at my door in 3 days I'll call Val. but my wife isn't going to take UGL gear because I won't let her. its too hit or miss. I'm going to attempt to source 'pharma'.

also some of the drugs UGL offer are not the drugs you think your getting .. even if you get results. that doesn't mean you took the drug you thought you were taking..
and for someone like me, that takes a very analytical approach and experiemiental approach to all this stuff . I really want to know the drug is the actual drug ,, not just bro gains

when guys say Eq bloated them and they held a ton of water and estrogen went though the roof its cause they aren't taking real Eq

[GearHeaded]

Yet you were basing your results of a guy that has been cycling for two years and gained 20lbs because he is a total ecto. He started natty at 147lbs at 6' got to 180. Very hard gainer.

He was the only complaint from ONE batch of tren .
The same batch I shot 10ml of and believe me I know tren. You base you asessment off pics of someone not responding the way you would like... Welll he won't. In fact I cant believe he has gotten as far as he has.

Attachment 177640

This was random^^ about three or four hours ago.
SAME BATCH
with dozens having used the batch.... One had a complaint. I bet I know where he got his ideas from too.

You are bad for business with your asessments.

well its a UGL . bad batches frickin happen. thats my whole point

not sure who your referring to exactly , Prox, bethdoth, 99, etc.. all ran what I think was a bad batch of tren. it happens

[GearHeaded]

and on a side note -- if someone says so and so labs tren was "smooth" . they don't know what they are talking about.
these are the same guys that look in the mirror after running their "smooth tren" for 6 weeks and they look exactly the same

they have no clue what these drugs are or how they work , yet they have an opinion that an injection was "Smooth" and they have no PIP so they think their UGL is gtg .. lol .. rookies .

[Obs]

I'm not sure what the beef is here Obs

UGLs have their place . Val is a great UGL.. if I need something at my door in 3 days I'll call Val. but my wife isn't going to take UGL gear because I won't let her. its too hit or miss. I'm going to attempt to source 'pharma'.

also some of the drugs UGL offer are not the drugs you think your getting .. even if you get results. that doesn't mean you took the drug you thought you were taking..
and for someone like me, that takes a very analytical approach and experiemiental approach to all this stuff . I really want to know the drug is the actual drug ,, not just bro gains

when guys say Eq bloated them and they held a ton of water and estrogen went though the roof its cause they aren't taking real Eq

The beef is you putting ectos on tren and not liking that they aren't gaining the weight they want and to your standards so you tell them it must be the source.

[Obs]

and on a side note -- if someone says so and so labs tren was "smooth" . they don't know what they are talking about.
these are the same guys that look in the mirror after running their "smooth tren" for 6 weeks and they look exactly the same

they have no clue what these drugs are or how they work , yet they have an opinion that an injection was "Smooth" and they have no PIP so they think their UGL is gtg .. lol .. rookies .

The guy that said that has been doing this for years and is bigger than most you train here

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The beef is you putting ectos on tren and not liking that they aren't gaining the weight they want and to your standards so you tell them it must be the source.

then we switch sources and magic happens ,, lol

I'm not a brand whore. I don't care about any of this shit. just take the right drug and optimize the results. period

[Obs]

well its a UGL . bad batches frickin happen. thats my whole point

not sure who your referring to exactly , Prox, bethdoth, 99, etc.. all ran what I think was a bad batch of tren. it happens

SAME BATCH! you didnt run it though but you seem to know more than the guys that did.

[Obs]

then we switch sources and magic happens ,, lol

I'm not a brand whore. I don't care about any of this shit. just take the right drug and optimize the results. period

Please define magic please please

[GearHeaded]

I'm a fucking genius in regards to the science of the actual drug itself.. not the brands or labs that produce shit they say is tren .
I know what real tren does and how it works . I don't know what Joes source of Tren does or what the heck it is, I have no loyalty to any UGL or lab . only to the drug itself

[GearHeaded]

I thought this thread was about BEER or something

[Obs]

I'm a fucking genius in regards to the science of the actual drug itself.. not the brands or labs that produce shit they say is tren .
I know what real tren does and how it works . I don't know what Joes source of Tren does or what the heck it is, I have no loyalty to any UGL or lab . only to the drug itself

You have no loyalty period.
Just another cunt riding a reputation building a God staus off others work.
People are worried to question you. I have gotten pm's from them.

You mr. Genius, can go fuck yourself.

[Obs]

You are 100% exactly like marcus.
Self proclaimed genius. Legend in your own mind sub 200lb.

You sure are good at talking

[GearHeaded]

You have no loyalty period.
Just another cunt riding a reputation building a God staus off others work.
People are worried to question you. I have gotten pm's from them.

You mr. Genius, can go fuck yourself.

so I'm next on your list huh .. ghetoboyd had a good point.

guarantee you at the end of the day , I'm different. there is no list you could ever put me on. I simply don't fit.

and my "god status" wasn't built off anyone .. no one built an empire with his own bare hands other then me. I'm the most hard core blue collar mother fucker ever . IF I give info here and help people out , its based on my charity and nothing more

[Obs]

so I'm next on your list huh .. ghetoboyd had a good point.

guarantee you at the end of the day , I'm different. there is no list you could ever put me on. I simply don't fit.

and my "god status" wasn't built off anyone .. no one built an empire with his own bare hands other then me. I'm the most hard core blue collar mother fucker ever . IF I give info here and help people out , its based on my charity and nothing more

Shit... Last I knew you were charging some of them.