I remember my first beer...

[Obs]

I remember ordering 4 vials of test and they finally came in. It was a two month wait.
Envelope looked like it had seen the world twice and fought two wars in the middle east.

Western union was the only way of paying.

No one pushed me to do it.
No one knew.
I just sat down at a computer one day searched "steroid ," and found this place.

I joined. I didn't even know wtf social media was but it felt icky. Bunch of weird ass mfers that don't even know each other, talking to one another... Wtf... GAAAAY!

Everyone here was an asshole back then.
I had to get my post count up to try and fit in so I could get a source. Tried to say something without getting bitched at for what I said. It was impossible.

I read a bit on it for quite a while.
I even ordered pct. Back then we didn't know much about hcg and AI was something not that heavily talked about in what I had read.

So clomid and nolva....but all I gave a shit about was test.

I was careful not to go over 500mg a week for about a week. Then I upped it and ordered more. I was using giant cattle needles I washed and reused.

I responded very well.
I got up to 205-215. Honestly dont know I weighed fully dressed. Outgrew my big brother though and was much stronger. That meant worlds to me.

Suddenly people acted different toward me in my day to day. Much friendlier. Respectful even. I absolutely loved steroids and lifting. I mean I fucking loved it more than anything. Wasn't much else in my life. I drove a big truck and lived alone. Ate out every meal.

Then a buncha shit happened.

A manipulative succubus far more advanced in the game of manipulating got me to marry her and have kids.

I like the kids sometimes. They are ok.


Anyway when she split nearly a decade later I came right back to where I left off. This time when that envelope came, I jammed that needle in and knew immediately, no one will ever keep me from this again. No one.

Holy shit how it changed too!
No more cow needles for me! I had a big box of 25ga. and all the shit I wanted! Sources were everywhere and source boards! I was using hcg and AI for a while too! I read lots of info here.

I miss it when I was 21.
It was a lot smaller info and a lot bigger world. It was a pain in the ass.

On my own:
I researched until I found what I wanted, fully knowing no one in my family or the law would agree with my decision.
I figured out how to get it.
I acquired it.
I bought weights.
I lifted with all I had.
I ate constantly.
I made tremendous gains.

Now its easy.
Now if you can't find steroids you must be retarded. If you mess yourself up you must be blind. Nice clean human needles and such...

Shit, I miss coming up with the funds for a few vials of test and thinking it was a lot of money.

Now domestic suppliers have a two for one sale and its on your doorstep in a week.

When I was a boy... Steroids were complete taboo. You heard about it in movies and rarely on the news. Now they are on facebook.

Most of you will never know the joys of seeking out this shit from scratch, in a world where it didnt exist, while waiting two minutes for dial up to refresh the page. Only to see that a weird ass "social media" dude you never even met, talked down to you like you were retarded; when you tried as hard as you could not to post something people could lash out at.

You are all still assholes.
Some things never change, thank God.
Everything else is... Soft and easy though.

I wish I could go back to me at 21 and tell me:

Look at what you did! You crazy, lawless, driven motherfucker! You got steroids and got big! Others will just drag you down. They aren't like you! They don't have the balls and drive you do and never will, don't stop. You stay after it and your dreams will come true! They can't make your dreams come true! You think those pussies ordered shit from God knows and shoved it in there ass cheek, with a cow needle, to get what they wanted?
Fuck no!
They would scoff and scorn and judge! They would remain small, weak, frail things too!
You have something they dont, so dont waste it on what they want from you.


DONE.

Just a heads up... New chinese regulation is cutting of most raw suppliers. They now face serious prison time as of Jan 1st.

Gear prices are going up across the board.
Get it while its cheap.
Get it now.

[Obs]

By most I mean you are no longer dealing with manufactures from china, when the new year rolls in. You are dealing with criminals.

Sources not very deeply imbedded will be done.

No one can stop the underground but this will put a huge damper on most UGL's.

And with the stroke of a slant eye pen... Cartels got into the game.

Thank you for the pressure Mr Trump! Yeay war on drugs!

[Obs]

I searched "steroid " that day, because I wanted to be an army ranger and I figured I would give 100% to be better than any.

Dreams change, but this mind never matured I guess. My neck has a bad disc. Its been hurting bad lately. All my joints are.

I dont want to be old. I just want this. Just a few years without the dead weight of people that need me to make them fufilled.

[Ernst]

For my first I just drove to Mexico and bought human grade Test and Nolvadex and some (big) needles right over the counter at a pharmacy. Brought my new treasures back into the US in a plastic bag on the passenger seat. Got stopped by customs at the border and car was searched and they left it all right there, untouched.

Fortunately I had discovered this place a while before and gotten some solid advice on dieting (thanks to Nark and Nova) and a good workout plan as well as basic cycle info before embarking on this journey. Still, it was still not unheard of to do all sorts of things that we would consider dumb now.

I think I was 26 or 27 at the time and my first cycle was 8.5 weeks of 350mg/wk test only. With another cycle after that (test/dbol ) I ended the first year close to 200lbs. It's much more impressive when you're short like me!

Since then life and other issues and other goals have gotten in the way from time to time but in the end I always come back to the iron and eventually end up back here as well.

[Obs]

For my first I just drove to Mexico and bought human grade Test and Nolvadex and some (big) needles right over the counter at a pharmacy. Brought my new treasures back into the US in a plastic bag on the passenger seat. Got stopped by customs at the border and car was searched and they left it all right there, untouched.

Fortunately I had discovered this place a while before and gotten some solid advice on dieting (thanks to Nark and Nova) and a good workout plan as well as basic cycle info before embarking on this journey. Still, it was still not unheard of to do all sorts of things that we would consider dumb now.

I think I was 26 or 27 at the time and my first cycle was 8.5 weeks of 350mg/wk test only. With another cycle after that (test/dbol ) I ended the first year close to 200lbs. It's much more impressive when you're short like me!

Since then life and other issues and other goals have gotten in the way from time to time but in the end I always come back to the iron and eventually end up back here as well.

No better life to be had.
Thats impressive driving to mexico and all.
I used ashop and they and balkan were new. Now they are tge oldest fkin source out there.

[Obs]

Kel is gonna come in here and tell us about jacking off a brontosaurus and extracting dino test....

Would like to know his story actually.

[Obs]

Replace "steroid " with "porn" and I'm sure a lot of gents can relate!

The younger folks may not know how difficult it used to be to find porn or even a nudie mag.

Kids these days will never know the wonder of finding an issue of Playboy in somebody's house and being like 'OMG'. If you found a Penthouse it was like hitting the mother lode.

Now, all you have to do is type "midget with saddle on back f*cks dark rooted blonde" in your browser and you got everything you want. Actually, I don't know that that particular search will find anything but you get the point. It's all just out there now.

If you do by chance decide to run that search, you might ought to run it from an incognito window, behind a vpn, and DO NOT click the download links! :O

lol I remember that problem.
Thank God for shitty gas stations.

[ghettoboyd]

Replace "steroid " with "porn" and I'm sure a lot of gents can relate!

The younger folks may not know how difficult it used to be to find porn or even a nudie mag.

Kids these days will never know the wonder of finding an issue of Playboy in somebody's house and being like 'OMG'. If you found a Penthouse it was like hitting the mother lode.

Now, all you have to do is type "midget with saddle on back f*cks dark rooted blonde" in your browser and you got everything you want. Actually, I don't know that that particular search will find anything but you get the point. It's all just out there now.

If you do by chance decide to run that search, you might ought to run it from an incognito window, behind a vpn, and DO NOT click the download links! :O

I remember as a kid the town would let people put anything on the curb and they would come pick it up so me and a friend would start rummaging through all the stuff and we found a big box of penthouse and playboy mags and let me tell you what my dam dick didn’t leave my hand for the whole summer lol...

[GearHeaded]

if a bottle of test only cost 2$ a bottle to produce and the cost of raws go up 50%, then that may mean $3 a bottle.. thats still not shit

most of us can have more steroids at our disposal then we know what to do with .. its the balancing of life , the training, and the nutrition that we faulter in

[Obs]

if a bottle of test only cost 2$ a bottle to produce and the cost of raws go up 50%, then that may mean $3 a bottle.. thats still not shit

most of us can have more steroids at our disposal then we know what to do with .. its the balancing of life , the training, and the nutrition that we faulter in

99% of domestic ugl raws come from chinese companies that faced zero reprocussion for exporting.

We will see what the new year brings.
Its not the cost of raws. Its finding the supply to begin with.

I mentioned cartels because they only deal in illegal things that legitimate companies cannot sell. When laws change and the legit suppliers are gone, you deal with cartels.

They had little foothold on juice because there was little attention paid by law preventing legit chinese from exporting.

On the dark web were places like valhalla selling ugl test at pharma price.

These were real cartel steroids .
Valhalla is gone now btw. They even busted buyers.

Supply and demand. Demand remains. Supply will fall to less than ten percent.

Raws and juice go up.

[Obs]

https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en...nterpretation/

I have yet to see article 151 and the list but legitimate companies (chinese raw suppliers) have already notified legitimate ugl's that they will be closing up shop when the new law takes effect.

[GearHeaded]

the real drug manufacturers still want to sell their drugs.. they spent millions for their patents and marketing.

Bayer test is test and bayer primo is primo and deca duraboin from oragan is the only real deca around period..

not sure what happens to china and bullshit hit or miss raws really effects true pharma. its only effecting UGL.. but fuck UGL can change prices simply cause their local water bill went up.


fyi - I'm kinda fucking with you Obs.. I can tell from your posts over the last month or so you need someone to fuk with you and stimulate your brain.. Sil is no longer cutting it. and as much as I respect him, I'm probably the stimulation you need to get you motivated and kick some FUCKING ASS.
you got shit to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fucking do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and just for my own personal preference.. I want another you tube rant video from you. your a bad mother fucker,,, never lose that and start to share it. the people that actually get it will understand

[Obs]

the real drug manufacturers still want to sell their drugs.. they spent millions for their patents and marketing.

Bayer test is test and bayer primo is primo and deca duraboin from oragan is the only real deca around period..

not sure what happens to china and bullshit hit or miss raws really effects true pharma. its only effecting UGL.. but fuck UGL can change prices simply cause their local water bill went up.


fyi - I'm kinda fucking with you Obs.. I can tell from your posts over the last month or so you need someone to fuk with you and stimulate your brain.. Sil is no longer cutting it. and as much as I respect him, I'm probably the stimulation you need to get you motivated and kick some FUCKING ASS.
you got shit to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fucking do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and just for my own personal preference.. I want another you tube rant video from you. your a bad mother fucker,,, never lose that and start to share it. the people that actually get it will understand

Back at you hoss.
I am worried about the new year though. Not liking what I been hearing from overseas.

The war on drugs is a gd joke.

A man is gonna do what he is gonna do and to intervene is to cause violence and death.

Juice has always been the rise above drug. We arent like rec drug people. We want to do better and not just feel good.

I dont want to see the underground become cartel fed.

God damn all politicians and people that believe they should decide what a man does with his body.

[GearHeaded]

Back at you hoss.
I am worried about the new year though. Not liking what I been hearing from overseas.

The war on drugs is a gd joke.

A man is gonna do what he is gonna do and to intervene is to cause violence and death.

Juice has always been the rise above drug. We arent like rec drug people. We want to do better and not just feel good.

I dont want to see the underground become cartel fed.

God damn all politicians and people that believe they should decide what a man does with his body.

I'm with you on the politics on AAS.. I'd punch so many of these mother fuckers in the face its ridiculous. and guess what, if I decide to punch you in the face your likely gong to be in a world of hurt . but I'm a nice guy
.
so many ways around it.. doesn't have to be 'drug game" at all. does not need to be "cartels" at ALL PERIOD EVER. fuck those assholes.. I will eat your soul right out of your face. you can't sell me drugs!!

just saying .. UGL vs AAS use today . total fucking shit.. just like the whole "onion browser" thing turned to shit years ago.
been there and done that.
I lost probably 130k in bitcoin before bitcoin was even a thing

[Obs]

I'm with you on the politics on AAS.. I'd punch so many of these mother fuckers in the face its ridiculous. and guess what, if I decide to punch you in the face your likely gong to be in a world of hurt . but I'm a nice guy
.
so many ways around it.. doesn't have to be 'drug game" at all. does not need to be "cartels" at ALL PERIOD EVER. fuck those assholes.. I will eat your soul right out of your face. you can't sell me drugs!!

just saying .. UGL vs AAS use today . total fucking shit.. just like the whole "onion browser" thing turned to shit years ago.
been there and done that.
I lost probably 130k in bitcoin before bitcoin was even a thing

Ugls are it though. A very very small percentage of AAS users use pharma grade for bodybuilding. Things like tren and less common esters only still exist because of ugls.

[GearHeaded]

Ugls are it though. A very very small percentage of AAS users use pharma grade for bodybuilding. Things like tren and less common esters only still exist because of ugls.

yes I agree..

but 300mg of pharma primo with 600mg real deca durabolin and 4iu pharm hgh .. um yeah you can go IFBB with that. if the nutrition and training are optimized. add some slin, hell yeah

[Obs]

yes I agree..

but 300mg of pharma primo with 600mg real deca durabolin and 4iu pharm hgh .. um yeah you can go IFBB with that. if the nutrition and training are optimized. add some slin, hell yeah

I like opportunities.
I dont want to live in a a world without tren and ment.

[GearHeaded]

you don't need UGLs for any of that

btw- I love me some steroids and am a huge fan of using multiple drugs . just making a point here is all

[Obs]

you don't need UGLs for any of that

btw- I love me some steroids and am a huge fan of using multiple drugs . just making a point here is all

Yes you do need ugls for that

[GearHeaded]

pharma grade deca , primo, and hgh (ugh, yeah some test too) WITH the proper nutrition and training .

sounds simple on the surface but could get pretty complicated

[GearHeaded]

I'm not a fan of domestic UGLs.. I Can't put my finger on it. I consider myself a somewhat educated person. but something is just not right with a lot of UGL gear. idk what it is.. I am going to figure it out though

[Obs]

pharma grade deca , primo, and hgh (ugh, yeah some test too) WITH the proper nutrition and training .

sounds simple on the surface but could get pretty complicated

You sound like marcus now though he used tren as well while bashing ugl usage.

There is no one way and what works for some does not work for others.

I cant get on with the trashing ugl thing.
Its like saying we dont need anything but muzzle loaders because guns are dangerous.

Keep your pharma grade.
Shittiest gear I ever ran was perrigo test.

[GearHeaded]

things just don't work the same.. its different. something is amiss and not right

[Obs]

I'm not a fan of domestic UGLs.. I Can't put my finger on it. I consider myself a somewhat educated person. but something is just not right with a lot of UGL gear. idk what it is.. I am going to figure it out though

Good luck with that

[GearHeaded]

You sound like marcus now though he used tren as well while bashing ugl usage.

There is no one way and what works for some does not work for others.

I cant get on with the trashing ugl thing.
Its like saying we dont need anything but muzzle loaders because guns are dangerous.

Keep your pharma grade.
Shittiest gear I ever ran was perrigo test.

comparing me to Marcus..??

come on brother , i'm only saying what I say based on experience .. and thats not just experience with myself which really isn't shit (other then 25 years worth).
people on this very foum have used "UGL" domestic tren while working with me and got zero results and got on 'real tren' and they knew they are on fucking Tren.
I don't provide sources . I'm not a rep for shit.. I just know some shit that works cause I have stupid middle aged soccer moms asking for steroid protocols from me.. you really think some soccer mom is gonna take some UGL var thats actually 20mg of Dbol ..

I'm unbiased.. fuck all I want to do is help people. but there is no way in hell I can be compared to marcus, just cause I've have bad UGL experiences

[GearHeaded]

UGL tren = 90% of these fools have no idea what they are injecting.. its brown and gold and amber color it must be good , right?? fools don't know the history of why tren is supposedly gold in the first place

you are an absolute amateur if you base your Tren on smell and color

[Obs]

comparing me to Marcus..??

come on brother , i'm only saying what I say based on experience .. and thats not just experience with myself which really isn't shit (other then 25 years worth).
people on this very foum have used "UGL" domestic tren while working with me and got zero results and got on 'real tren' and they knew they are on fucking Tren.
I don't provide sources . I'm not a rep for shit.. I just know some shit that works cause I have stupid middle aged soccer moms asking for steroid protocols from me.. you really think some soccer mom is gonna take some UGL var thats actually 20mg of Dbol ..

I'm unbiased.. fuck all I want to do is help people. but there is no way in hell I can be compared to marcus, just cause I've have bad UGL experiences

If you havent had a bad ugl experience then you havent been doing it long.

Its not just ugls.
Ugls fed the underground that built bodybuilding.

I dont want pharma grade sources.
Why would I pay 4x the price for things dosed less than?

The underground made this board. It was all built on 98% of guys running ugl only.

The guys juicing arent buying legitimate stock from a pharmacy and a prescription. If their door gets kicked they go to jail.

The above ground means nothing to me.
You cant filter off enough pharma grade to feed the underground bodybuilding world. Supply and demand.

If you could somehow manage to do it, a vial would cost an arm and a leg.

The underground exists because of ugls and the people with the balls to break the laws to make it happen.

I can fill 50 max prescriptions off the shit I ran the past year. The sources you have are ugls as well unless their name is walgreens and you have a script or an exployee inside ripping them off for you.

There is little money in selling pharma unless it is stolen.

Marky never got around to answering me when I asked about his usage of tren ace when he would trash ugls. He just never responded. It was a euro trait I couldn't stand. Bashing ugls on a board tgat only existed because of them.

In a matter of time anadrol will not be available in pharma form. Deca either.

It will be deemed "unsafe" to make way for alternative treatments deemed to work better because of a new blockbuster drug that lined pockets of the fda and politicians.

Ugl will always be here though.
Always will be someone with the balls willing to make the money by breaking the law.

Fuck pharma.

[Obs]

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I can ask val and he might brew you up some pharma grade?

[GearHeaded]

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I can ask val and he might brew you up some pharma grade?

it just doesn't work that way . no UGL can brew me up some pharma grade nandrolone .. there is no such thing as deca durabolin on the free market more then likely. the patents and formulas for that shit are held tightly and have been for years.
the deca you take from your UGL is a completely different form of nandrolone from Oragans patent


I will find old bottles of deca , primo , test, hgh, that I got from a pharmacy with a script and shoot pics of that shit.. and I will shoot pics of the same UGL bullshit..
I have zero reason to lie about getting scripted primo. does no benefit for me what so ever.. there is some really good legit UGL primo out there as well.
WTF.. everything I do I'm just trying to help you guys out.

[GearHeaded]

no UGL is ever going to make real DECA .. period . ever. period . so when they sell you fucking deca at 40$ a vial , just remember , thats not the real thing

[GearHeaded]

just a disclaimer though .. I'll still use it. fuck I can't afford real deca

[tarmyg]

just a disclaimer though .. I'll still use it. fuck I can't afford real deca

For REF, real Pharma Deca that you buy here comes in 100mg/ml vials and cost $6/vial.
(https://www.1mg.com/drugs/deca-durab...njection-19949)

[songdog]

Me and my boyz did the same back in the early 80s.

[Obs]

no UGL is ever going to make real DECA .. period . ever. period . so when they sell you fucking deca at 40$ a vial , just remember , thats not the real thing

Same could be said about cialis.
Yet ugl does the same as pharma.
Twenty dollars vs one.

Pantent was sealed tight. Blockbuster drug.

I suppose pharma grade cialis will make my dick extra hard? I can already dent my fridge.

Just making a point.

Organon may be slightly better. No idea.
The modification generics use to break patents are so slight it makes virtually no difference. Analyze, modify, produce.

In my opinion pharma grade is overrated shit.
I am just a dumb redneck nobody though.
I don't have the tesources you do and I am not a female buying anavar .

The amount of females in this are just a handful. Hell most of the ones here might prefer dbol instead of var but for the price difference.

I know how to piss you off now! Just compare you to marcus!

GH300!

Lmao

[Obs]

For REF, real Pharma Deca that you buy here comes in 100mg/ml vials and cost $6/vial.
(https://www.1mg.com/drugs/deca-durab...njection-19949)

Good!
Send me 150ml and we will put this to rest!

[Obs]

it just doesn't work that way . no UGL can brew me up some pharma grade nandrolone .. there is no such thing as deca durabolin on the free market more then likely. the patents and formulas for that shit are held tightly and have been for years.
the deca you take from your UGL is a completely different form of nandrolone from Oragans patent


I will find old bottles of deca , primo , test, hgh, that I got from a pharmacy with a script and shoot pics of that shit.. and I will shoot pics of the same UGL bullshit..
I have zero reason to lie about getting scripted primo. does no benefit for me what so ever.. there is some really good legit UGL primo out there as well.
WTF.. everything I do I'm just trying to help you guys out.

The point of the picture was that there are a lot of fakes out there.
Where do you think that box layout came from?

I you all can get scripts go ahead. Not enough for me. Like was done recently with tren hex the others will eventually be pulled off the market due to a "safer"alternative being produced. It may or may not have bodybuilding benefits.

I bet the ugls are saying "WTF.... GH...we are just tryna help!"

Calm down.
Just arguing with you a lot.
My opinion is as useful as nothing.

8-*

[Obs]

Me and my boyz did the same back in the early 80s.

I would love to hear stories about how it worked back then.
I know a guy that used to get shit in a book with the center cut out in the mail. Really cool.

[Obs]

Done messed around and ran my battery down pissing off GH300... No porhub for me tonight! Great!

[GearHeaded]

started drinking early yesterday .. don't remember half of these posts

[kelkel]

Kel is gonna come in here and tell us about jacking off a brontosaurus and extracting dino test....

Would like to know his story actually.

Well, that's the Readers Digest version...