If America Sucks So Bad, You’re Free to Leave

[Beetlegeuse]

Apologies to an leftists, mutants, rioters, perma-protestors, and all those funding or cheering on these violent goons destroying once-great cities of every color and possible human configuration not living in the US of A

If America Sucks So Bad, You’re Free to Leave

Derek Hunter | Posted: Jul 19, 2020 12:01 AM

Dear leftists, mutants, rioters, perma-protestors, and all those funding or cheering on these violent goons destroying once-great cities of every color and possible human configuration (I realize that’s a long way to address a letter, but I wanted to make sure to be “inclusive,” lest someone feel offended or left out).

I write to you today on behalf of everyone else – not just the people who roll their eyes in disgust at the sight of you, but the people you don’t see – the people going to work every day, people with families or without, those stuck at home, those trying to get an actual education, and anyone else who loves this country, people of every race and ethnicity. In other words: normal Americans.

You really seem to hate it here. So, we have a question: why are you still here?

Honestly, if the country is such a cesspool of racism, sexism, homophobia, oppression, brutality, and is fundamentally rigged against everyone not born with a silver spoon in their mouth, why the hell have you stayed?

It’s not like you’re in prison here, no matter how much you whine that it is like one. You’re out in the streets seemingly every other week “fighting oppression” over just about every way you can dream up to claim someone is oppressed, crying about the fascism of this or that without it sinking in that you’re still free to whine about imagined fascism and if we really were a fascist country you’d be in jail or dead, why not get out?

You don’t seem to have a coherent message beyond you hate it here, so leave.

You’re spending an awful lot of time trying to impose a system of government you claim to be fighting, which is a testament to how you were failed by the education system, your parents, or both. Whatever the case, we don’t care. We aren’t interested in what you’re selling. Our Second Amendment makes it really difficult for you to force it on us, so your fight is likely an unwinnable one.

Yes, you have the Democratic Party on your side now, but even a win in November won’t bring about the complete “transformation” you’re seeking. But there are countries out that that have what you want – North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba – or others that have lighter versions of the same. There’s a country for whatever level of stupid you happen to suffer from, or simply other places that aren’t “colonizing, imperialist, capitalistic” pits of despair, and you can get to any of them in a matter of hours. Go.

Why spend your whole lives fighting for something you may never get when what you want is readily available elsewhere? What walls we do have on our borders aren’t meant to keep you in, you’re free to leave.

Now, you may find that other countries, “more fair” countries, might not want you. Most of the rest of the world only takes in people who bring something to the table and, let’s face it, you’re not bringing much. But you could probably convince them to take you, if only for the propaganda victory against the U.S. It’s a sacrifice we’re willing to make.

I get that moving to a new country is tough, but if I were born into what I thought of as a prison with no hope for a better future, I’d find a way. In fact, I did. I was born and raised in Detroit, but I got out. It wasn’t easy. When I moved out I had about $500 to my name, one month’s rent, but I did it because there was nothing for me professionally there. What’s your excuse?

Here’s a deal I propose to help with that, actually. Since the government is just printing money like crazy right now (for a long time, really), how about a one-time payment of, say, $20,000 to help you start your new life in an existing Utopia? You pick it, we’ll move you there and give you some money to help you get started.

It can be anywhere in the world, totally up to you. All you have to do is get them to accept you, and we’ll take care of the rest. We’ll move your record collection, vintage video games, ferret or snake (no judgement), your books (from Communist Manifesto and Mao’s little red one to comic or White Fragility), and any clothes you have beyond the all black outfit you always wear to the country of your choice.

There’s just one little catch, because there always is: you can’t come back. Part of this deal is when you sign for your check you are renouncing your US citizenship. Seems like a fair trade to me – why would you ever want to return to this disgusting place, right?

A free move, free cash, and freedom from the United States of America to wherever you can find. Imagine being able to live in a country without a single statue of Columbus, Washington, Jefferson, or anyone else you couldn’t hold a candle to if you lived to be 1,000. Wouldn’t that be great?

One more caveat: you’ve got to take most, if not all, of your fellow travelers with you. Since you can’t come back, not even to visit (Skype with your parents or they can go visit you, if they still talk to you), think of it as a chance to see the world with your likeminded, gender non-conforming, flag burning, cop-hating, brick-throwing extended family. In other words, it’s a package deal.

It shouldn’t be difficult to convince most of them, your old college professors and unshowered drum circle comrades likely don’t enjoy it here anymore than you do. Sure, it would damage the chances of Democrats winning in the fall, but that wouldn’t really matter anyway since 99 percent of the ones in Congress already would be going with you.

What do you say? Do we have a deal?

Sincerely,

Everyone else



(emphasis added)

Source: Town Hall -dot- Com

[Gallowmere]

No one is free to leave. Renouncing citizenship has a monetary cost, and if you don’t do that, you’re on the hook for taxes owed here, regardless of where you live and work.

[< <Samson> >]

U r free to leave at any time


My parents and I left Russia in the middle of the night as soon as my dad seen a chance - I’m pretty sure u can do that here


The US is def having issues - who’s causing them? Hmmmmm

US is still #1, What I experienced here very recently most definitely would not be possible in any other country

Although some of the shit we hear & see here rn def does upset us all

[Test Monsterone]

The same can be said about you. If you don't like protesters, riots, "leftists," shit, left tits, you are free to leave also! That's America, brother.

[Gallowmere]

The same can be said about you. If you don't like protesters, riots, "leftists," shit, left tits, you are free to leave also! That's America, brother.

Pretty much. That’s the weird divisiveness that leans in odd directions from either side. One screams “change this shit” while the other “leave if you don’t like it”, and on principle, I’d always find myself leaning toward the former.
Abandoning ship should always be a last resort, when things are irrevocably fucked (think Soviet Union, starving millions, etc.). “Just leave” in response to the relatively trivial shit we’re facing now is childish at best, and smacks of wanton cruelty to the tune of “shut up and know your place” at worst.

[Cuz]

Im all for change if its good change

[< <Samson> >]

A Samson sighting! How are you doing?

Tough to describe, very hard to put into words

Certain brain procedures/surgeries change who you are. I suppose some for the positive.

Physically I feel beat, finally starting to load up on good food & drain these mega doses of toxins out of me - the brain is def scarred & recovering - but, I feel mentally better than ever.


I can’t put it into words - but, this would b the description:


I pray the procedure stays - I have many things left to do. But, unfortunately sometimes it’s not a choice. . . But, I have strong faith in my neurological team & in life itself. She pulled me back this many times.



It still must b 2020 - stay the hell away from people unless you’re A ok with getting sick af


Sorry, 4 jacking the thread

[Gallowmere]

Im all for change if its good change

That’s the problem. “Good” and “bad” are almost never objective things. You’d be hard pressed, outside of shit like murder and rape to find anything that’s universally considered bad. Likewise, best of luck finding literally anything that’s universally considered good.

[Beetlegeuse]

No one is free to leave. Renouncing citizenship has a monetary cost, and if you don’t do that, you’re on the hook for taxes owed here, regardless of where you live and work.

Straw man argument. It doesn't say "leaving is free." "Free" in the sense used doesn't mean "at no cost," it means "at liberty to."

Charles Manson was not a free man for the 46(-ish) years he served for his role in the Tate-LaBianca murders but he lived free as a ward of the State of Mexifornia.

Those two "frees" don't convey the same meaning.


And the feds still will come after you for taxes on income earned outside the US for 10 years after you renounce your citizenship. Yet more proof that the IRS is an evil entity and his first order of business on Trump's re-election should be to abolish it.

[Gallowmere]

Straw man argument. It doesn't say "leaving is free." "Free" in the sense used doesn't mean "at no cost," it means "at liberty to."

Charles Manson was not a free man for the 46(-ish) years he served for his role in the Tate-LaBianca murders but he lived free as a ward of the State of Mexifornia.

Those two "frees" don't convey the same meaning.


And the feds still will come after you for taxes on income earned outside the US for 10 years after you renounce your citizenship. Yet more proof that the IRS is an evil entity and his first order of business on Trump's re-election should be to abolish it.

If you don’t like the IRS, feel free to leave.
Yeah, it’s ridiculous, but that’s precisely what’s at the core of these arguments. “Take everything as is, or fuck off...oh wait, except the things the author doesn’t like”.

[Honkey_Kong]

America isn't this "set in stone" thing. New laws go on the books and new policies are enacted every day. Some of them are very anti-freedom. This "love it or leave" it rhetoric got old. If you don't love it, you're free to try to change it in to something you love via voting, peaceful protest, reaching out to others, etc. If it catches wind with enough people things will change. Being a "free" people affords us this ability to change our destiny.

Besides, most countries have tougher immigration policies than America (unless you're coming from the 3rd world).

[DustMan]

Can't leave during Covid, federal government fucked up their response so badly that USA is one of the worst performing countries in the world in terms of infection rate, so no one will let Americans into their country. As every country in the world begins to open their borders, USA is still left out. So no, you can't leave, cus your government is infested with clowns.

Personally I think the USA is a dumpsterfire right now, so much potential really, but it's going the way of the UK.

[Mooseman33]

If you don’t like the IRS, feel free to leave.
Yeah, it’s ridiculous, but that’s precisely what’s at the core of these arguments. “Take everything as is, or fuck off...oh wait, except the things the author doesn’t like”.

different.

he is not out there protesting the irs, destroying peoples business, cities, hurting people, spreading the kung flu. he like 99.9% americans hate the irs.

the people who hate america can leave.

[Gallowmere]

different.

he is not out there protesting the irs, destroying peoples business, cities, hurting people, spreading the kung flu. he like 99.9% americans hate the irs.

the people who hate america can leave.

Everybody “hates” the IRS, until the majority realize that they don’t actually pay income tax, or receive more back than they actually pay in. They completely misunderstand how tax law and that division of the federal government actually function.
Yes, wealth redistribution is bullshit. No, it doesn’t negatively affect as many people as some would like to believe.

Secondly, yes, violent recourse is a problem. Protesting is not, and is protected specifically by the first amendment. Therefore, yeah, if you don’t like protests, leave.

[Mooseman33]

protesting is fine, i support it, not blocking streets and attacking cars.

in my area the protests have been on sidewalks and private streets.
i love that shit, but blocking the highway in rush time traffic, thats bullshit and not peaceful

hating things about the country and hating the country are two different things.

[Ephemeral]

No one ever got convinced by insulting them, so this article is just virtue signalling which I despise. And it's quite dishonest to conflate lefties and peaceful protestors with the small % of violent ones.

Also it never made sense to me why the ppl who point out problems should leave and not those who are causing them.

[Gallowmere]

protesting is fine, i support it, not blocking streets and attacking cars.

in my area the protests have been on sidewalks and private streets.
i love that shit, but blocking the highway in rush time traffic, thats bullshit and not peaceful

hating things about the country and hating the country are two different things.

Therein lies the problem. You’re following an assumption made by the author. “You really seem to hate it here” is just that, an assumption.
As you rightly put, you can hate specific things about any nation, political theory, methodology, etc. etc. without finding it irredeemable. I have yet to hear a single person, outside of the occasional extremist wonk stating that they hate the entirety of this nation an its structure. What is being targeted are very specific issues, which is the entire point of protest.
Of course, you are going to get the occasional (usually teenager or young 20s) asshole who sees this stuff and uses it as a justification for taking out their problematic hormonal rage in ways that aren’t exactly helpful to any cause. Assuming (there’s that word again) that their silly bullshit makes up the roots of any movement is patently absurd.
Are there legitimate terrorist organizations? Of course. Are they even a good sized majority of what we’re seeing right now? Absolutely not.
Remember, it’s always the following generation that has lead and will continue to lead progress into every generation. The “get off my lawn” nonsense happens with every aging generation, and it’s never going to stop, so I’m not expecting that.
Remember, we’re often led from behind, because the elderly are the most prominent voters. The young usually have shit to do (work, raise children, etc.) so their voice often goes ignored. The Covid shutdowns have allowed a shitload of free time for people to A: dwell on things, and B: act upon these dwellings.
If the shutdowns are still in place in November, I expect to see some interesting shifts. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them lifted soon before though.

[Mooseman33]

kung flu taking care of the elderly voters.

the get off my lawn generation was much better then what we have today.

my point was/is that you can hate a ton of shit about america, but still not hate america.

[Capebuffalo]

protesting is fine, i support it, not blocking streets and attacking cars.

in my area the protests have been on sidewalks and private streets.
i love that shit, but blocking the highway in rush time traffic, thats bullshit and not peaceful

hating things about the country and hating the country are two different things.

In regards to that I found out that in my state(for now) your vehicle is a weapon of opportunity if you feel threatened. Meaning if someone is trying to forcefully remove you from your car you can justifiably run their asses over. Always important to know the laws in your area. Lol

[Capebuffalo]

[tarmyg]

The irony of a guy asking people to leave if they do not like it while complaining about how things are progressing. The only constant about any society is; change. If you do not want that there probably is no place to choose from where one can live.

[< <Samson> >]

Sorry - not reading the rest

Just adding my short .o2

Most folk(that I know of)who say US sucks so badly - were born in the US








Us foreigners def don’t agree with quite a few things - but, hey - I’m not in fucking RU - I KNOW that I can’t raise my son there. Maybe I will b again one day(if I can ever fly again)- but, the US def has a special flavor. Kinda like Vegas does compared to Joplin MO

[Beetlegeuse]