'Screw Your Freedoms' Arnie

**Mr. Small** · 08-21-2021, 11:36 AM

Some people are pissed with Arnie

**DinAZ** · 08-21-2021, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Small

Some people are pissed with Arnie

No i love Arnold

**wango** · 08-21-2021, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Small

Some people are pissed with Arnie

Life (and free speech) can be a bitch, they can learn to deal with it.

**DinAZ** · 08-21-2021, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by wango

Life (and free speech) can be a bitch, they can learn to deal with it.

Exactly, if we start censoring people we don’t agree with it is a quick path to fascism. If people don’t like what he says they can choose not to support him like the many sponsors already bailing on him

**< <Samson> >** · 08-21-2021, 06:59 PM

Just about everyone has a love/hate relationship with Arnold - always have

**Mr. Small** · 08-21-2021, 08:40 PM

Arnie is cool with me

**lovbyts** · 08-21-2021, 10:59 PM

He is an actor and body builder. I really dont care what his political or personal opinions are and wont influence mine in any way.

**DinAZ** · 08-22-2021, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

He is an actor and body builder. I really dont care what his political or personal opinions are and wont influence mine in any way.

Same here. I grew up watching Arnold movies and he was like a childhood hero to me.

I’d rather be inspired by his career than disagree or agree with what he does or says. If something doesn’t impact my life no point getting upset by it.

**XnavyHMCS** · 08-22-2021, 09:46 AM

I think, IMO, his words were taken out of context, and once the media picked up the ball and ran with it, then here we are.

He lived and personified the American Dream and the Cinderella Story. I would be more inclined to believe that he is an American patriot at heart, than anything else; no matter what he said.

**< <Samson> >** · 08-22-2021, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS

He lived and personified the American Dream and the Cinderella Story.

Well, sorta

Until Arnie Jr popped up - to me & many others, now he looks like a guy that just never had a personal life.

Sorta, but not really

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-22-2021, 03:21 PM

Arnie was a legendary bodybuilder and made some pretty kickass movies in the 1980s and 90s.

What kind of retard looks to athletes and actors for political guidance?

**XnavyHMCS** · 08-22-2021, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Arnie was a legendary bodybuilder and made some pretty kickass movies in the 1980s and 90s.

What kind of retard looks to athletes and actors for political guidance?

Beautifully stated...!!!

**XnavyHMCS** · 08-22-2021, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Well, sorta

Until Arnie Jr popped up - to me & many others, now he looks like a guy that just never had a personal life.

Sorta, but not really

Boy, I don't know, brother. I would dispute the notion that he lived ANYTHING BUT the American Dream and the Cinderella Story.

From what I understand of his humble beginnings, debarking in the USA with a gym bag and some muscles, and not much else (his family being middle-class at best), pioneering and blazing the trail for bodybuilding and the fitness culture to thrive (I do not doubt, if there was no Arnold, someone would have come along and done the same.). Breaking into the film industry (I can remember seeing him, around the mid to late 70's in an episode of The Streets of San Francisco, and you couldn't even understand the 2 spoken lines he uttered; he was that bad.) and becoming an action star. Marrying a Kennedy (The closest thing that we Americans have to "royalty".). Rising to the office of Governor of the State of California (A state which was ranked 5th globally, ahead of India and just behind Germany.), which perhaps is no mean feat considering they elected Ronald Reagan (the first President I voted for). OK, he produced a child out of wedlock; welcome to America and more than that; welcome to being a high testosterone male (Arnold ain't the only one... But, chapeau bas to the Terminator. He could have thrown some cash at the kid and told him to disappear, instead he manned-up and chose a different tack.)

I feel that he personifies the American Dream / Cinderella Story. He would appear from the outside, unless someone has some information suggesting that Arnold came from a wealthy background, to be the classic "rags to riches" story.

I am by no means a mega fan of Arnold, but I think he fits the bill here. I was a bit turned-off by his negative stance, as a Republican no less, on Pres. Trump. So, I am not jumping to Arnies defense, only supporting my theory.

Take care buddy...!!!

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-23-2021, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS

Boy, I don't know, brother. I would dispute the notion that he lived ANYTHING BUT the American Dream and the Cinderella Story.

From what I understand of his humble beginnings, debarking in the USA with a gym bag and some muscles, and not much else (his family being middle-class at best), pioneering and blazing the trail for bodybuilding and the fitness culture to thrive (I do not doubt, if there was no Arnold, someone would have come along and done the same.). Breaking into the film industry (I can remember seeing him, around the mid to late 70's in an episode of The Streets of San Francisco, and you couldn't even understand the 2 spoken lines he uttered; he was that bad.) and becoming an action star. Marrying a Kennedy (The closest thing that we Americans have to "royalty".). Rising to the office of Governor of the State of California (A state which was ranked 5th globally, ahead of India and just behind Germany.), which perhaps is no mean feat considering they elected Ronald Reagan (the first President I voted for). OK, he produced a child out of wedlock; welcome to America and more than that; welcome to being a high testosterone male (Arnold ain't the only one... But, chapeau bas to the Terminator. He could have thrown some cash at the kid and told him to disappear, instead he manned-up and chose a different tack.)

I feel that he personifies the American Dream / Cinderella Story. He would appear from the outside, unless someone has some information suggesting that Arnold came from a wealthy background, to be the classic "rags to riches" story.

I am by no means a mega fan of Arnold, but I think he fits the bill here. I was a bit turned-off by his negative stance, as a Republican no less, on Pres. Trump. So, I am not jumping to Arnies defense, only supporting my theory.

Take care buddy...!!!

Whenever anybody in the limelight gives that "rags to riches" story, my spidey-senses get triggered and I look to Yandex as my bullshit detector (google is pretty much useless to me these days).

But it really doesn't matter when you get down to it. Let's pretend Arnie was born with a silver spoon in his mouth (I know he was middle class or less), he still popularized and revolutionized bodybuilding. He still became the idol of our idols (well those of us who are under 50). The guy made a whole plethora of awesome action movies in the 80s and 90s that I grew up watching. It doesn't change any of that.

Maybe it's just me, but I tend to separate the man from the work he's done. The guy could be a complete reprobate (and I'm not accusing him of that), but if he did some great works through his life, they stand on their own.

**< <Samson> >** · 08-23-2021, 06:53 AM

Pictures speak a thousand words

Click image for larger version.

Name: 9C651003-1E97-44D2-8324-CB0D0F920334.jpeg
Views: 84
Size: 36.4 KB
ID: 181296

Come on bro - at least a good lookin costar

Whatevs - he made Predator

**Mooseman33** · 08-23-2021, 07:30 AM

he forgot where he came from and how he came up.

now he is a jerkoff who gets drop kicked at speaking events.

**wango** · 08-23-2021, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Pictures speak a thousand words

Come on bro - at least a good lookin costar

Whatevs - he made Predator

Oh Gawd, a Maria Shriver pic? She got down right scary looking as she aged. That pic is not starting my week off well

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-23-2021, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by wango

Oh Gawd, a Maria Shriver pic? She got down right scary looking as she aged. That pic is not starting my week off well

Even though she was flat, when she was young, she was reasonablyhot. But holy shit did she go south from there.

**wango** · 08-23-2021, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Honkey_Kong

Even though she was flat, when she was young, she was reasonablyhot. But holy shit did she go south from there.

Agreed.

**DinAZ** · 08-23-2021, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by wango

Oh Gawd, a Maria Shriver pic? She got down right scary looking as she aged. That pic is not starting my week off well

here this might help fix that

Click image for larger version.

Name: MK.jpg
Views: 43
Size: 526.5 KB
ID: 181297

**XnavyHMCS** · 08-23-2021, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Pictures speak a thousand words

Come on bro - at least a good lookin costar

Whatevs - he made Predator

Yeah.... But I would lay money on the theory that the housekeeper, no matter what she looked like; she hit the pipe and was "no holes barred" for ol'Dutch (Commando). She, the housekeeper, had the look... He must have been home alone with her most of the day, or for days on end, and as can frequently happen, one thing led to another...

In any event, he is and was that man; with all his imperfections.

You gotta hand it to him for standing next to his "bastard" child. Like I said, he could have just fucked the young man off, but instead has chosen, at the cost of perhaps respect from family and friends, not to mention the rupture of his marriage to Maria, to be seen publicly with the boy and to outward appearances, support him. Hell, once the kid started growing Arnie was never going to be able to keep that genie in the bottle; not with that kids genetics.

I am with you guys here on the forum; I despise it when actors and athletes are asked for their opinions on politics, etc... They carry little to no weight in my view.

**wango** · 08-23-2021, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by DinAZ

here this might help fix that

Ahhhhh, thank you for easing my pain!

**tarmyg** · 08-23-2021, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS

I am with you guys here on the forum; I despise it when actors and athletes are asked for their opinions on politics, etc... They carry little to no weight in my view.

The way people should respond IMHO.

https://youtu.be/DkIZZCbxngQ

**Cuz** · 08-24-2021, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

He is an actor and body builder. I really dont care what his political or personal opinions are and wont influence mine in any way.

You left out a key profession. Politician. Governor of California ring a bell? Arnold has done pretty everything i mean he is an amazing person for sure, would he have his fame without immigrating to the USA? Fuck no.

As long as he stays out of a public office i could care less what he says, i pray to God he keeps himself out of a political seat the last thing we need is another communist.

“Screw your freedoms” should not be ok with anyone living in the best nation on earth. He has basically lost all my respect. Thats just my opinion i am not insuing argument with anyone on this forum as we have already beat the political horse to fucking death here

**< <Samson> >** · 08-24-2021, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by wango

Oh Gawd, a Maria Shriver pic? She got down right scary looking as she aged.

Yup, looked like he married the predator

Lmao

Good shit

Awesome he’s still alive & going either way

**XnavyHMCS** · 08-24-2021, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Yup, looked like he married the predator

Lmao

Good shit

"... looked like he married the predator" LMFAO, that was good.

I guess age will do that to all of us, at some point in time.

**Honkey_Kong** · 08-24-2021, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Cuz

You left out a key profession. Politician. Governor of California ring a bell? Arnold has done pretty everything i mean he is an amazing person for sure, would he have his fame without immigrating to the USA? Fuck no.

As long as he stays out of a public office i could care less what he says, i pray to God he keeps himself out of a political seat the last thing we need is another communist.

“Screw your freedoms” should not be ok with anyone living in the best nation on earth. He has basically lost all my respect. Thats just my opinion i am not insuing argument with anyone on this forum as we have already beat the political horse to fucking death here

On the bright side, he can't run for governor of Commiefornia again (term limits) and since he's a foreigner, he can't run for president. Besides, at his age, he probably doesn't want to do more than occasionally go on TV and do an interview or do short clips on social media. Maybe he'll do a few easy movies here and there too.

**Test Monsterone** · 08-24-2021, 03:51 PM

I think he said "screw your freedoms" as a tongue-in-cheek kinda comment at all the conspiracy nonsense being spewed by certain people about the covid vaccine or mandates stepping on their rights. There is nuance, it's not just black and white. I think he's saying that people need to stop the bullshit, get vaccinated, and eliminate this virus from circulation. Only when everyone is vaccinated can this happen. This virus replicates in our bodies... the people who are now in the hospitals from COVID are majority non-vaccinated. There wouldn't be a Delta variant, or any other future variant, if he world took the proper steps to eliminating this virus. But people wanna believe bullshit conspiracy theories and think that the vaccine is some kind of plot to control humans. Give me a fucking break.

If Covid had a 90% death rate, I'm sure people would happily get the vaccine and stop spreading the God damn virus in perpetuity. These mandates and the vaccine wouldn't step on their freedoms then.... I'm just so sick of this notion of "my freedoms." We live in a fucking society, in a community. We do things for the good of the people, not for some conspiracy theory that some politician wants to control us. So yeah, I kinda agree with him. Screw your freedom, for a little bit... till we get this virus the fuck out of here. People will shoot up UGL made in a sink but can't get a fucking vaccine.