Tren

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:02 PM

Whats good to stop gyno from tren enanthate (550mg a week)?

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:21 PM

bump

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:27 PM

nobody know anything??

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 07:27 PM

Are you running it with test?

Have you been taking nolvadex ?

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:28 PM

nolva makes it worse and yes im taking 1.5 grams of test .5grams of deca

**jkid69** · 03-14-2005, 07:32 PM

I am running 500mg p/w with 500mg of EQ & 600mg of test e. I am running in with Aromidex & HCG . So far so good...

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by 250

nolva makes it worse and yes im taking 1.5 grams of test .5grams of deca

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...........

EDIT: I didn't think you were serious about your doses, my bad lol...

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...........

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 07:44 PM

Nolva is an anti-estrogen..........

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:40 PM

deca has a higher converstion rate then eq

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:41 PM

i have research to back it

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:45 PM

nolva is for aromitzation not for prog.

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 07:52 PM

So you're running:

Test @ 1.5g/wk
Deca @ 500mg/wk
Tren E @ 550mg/wk

You don't see a problem with this at all?

How many cycles have you done bro?

**250** · 03-14-2005, 07:55 PM

No problem at all! This is my 4th

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 07:59 PM

Are you using b6? 200mg/day of b6 is often suggested...

**250** · 03-14-2005, 08:02 PM

yeah i was considering bromo and t3 at 25mcg a day

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by 250

yeah i was considering bromo and t3 at 25mcg a day

Cabergoline (aka Dostinex)..is something to look into....

Einstein1905 used to talk about it quite a bit, I haven't read much about it myself...

Here's a post on the t3....

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...3&postcount=18

Also, read these:

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...5&postcount=24

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...8&postcount=26

I wish I had the experience to help you...

**fred9** · 03-15-2005, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Cabergoline (aka Dostinex)..is something to look into....

Einstein1905 used to talk about it quite a bit, I haven't read much about it myself...

Here's a post on the t3....

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...3&postcount=18

Also, read these:

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...5&postcount=24

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...8&postcount=26

I wish I had the experience to help you...

good info...thnx

**Britguy** · 03-15-2005, 03:13 AM

fcontact: your right in saying that when prolactins levels rise it causes lactation (sometimes & in some people) but sorry...you CAN get gyno from Tren & Deca (progesterone related) whereas testosterone related gyn is nearly always estogen related

**FContact** · 03-15-2005, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Britguy

fcontact: your right in saying that when prolactins levels rise it causes lactation (sometimes & in some people) but sorry...you CAN get gyno from Tren & Deca (progesterone related) whereas testosterone related gyn is nearly always estogen related

I don't believe you will find a case where someone will get gynoecomastia, solely from progesterone alone. Progesterone needs to work with estrogen in order for it to cause gynoecomastia. It basically enhances the effects of estrogen. Therefore if gynoecomastia were to occur, it would be primarily estrogen related. Therefore, taking an AI or SERM would remedy this problem. That being said. Tren alone or nandrolone alone, will not cause gynoecomastia. Now, if these hormones were stacked with a hormone like testosterone , and a user gets gyno. Then the ultimate culprit is the testosterone, the tren and nandrolone would intensify the effects only because they are PR agonist and as I mentioned earlier, progesterone pretty much enhances estrogen's effects. So again, trenbolone and nandrolone will not cause progesterone induced gyno. Gynoecomastia is primarily estrogen related, progesterone alone cannot cause gynoecomastia.......

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 08:06 PM

To be honest, I thought you were joking about your doses bro... hence my 'Riiiight' comment...

I've never seen anyone run that high of doses of all 3 together....

**Mesomorphyl** · 03-14-2005, 08:07 PM

I wouldn't touch a thing, that way the first day or two of lactation you will have a good supply of colostrum.

**EatRite** · 03-14-2005, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

I wouldn't touch a thing, that way the first day or two of lactation you will have a good supply of colostrum.

**250** · 03-14-2005, 08:19 PM

thanks bro

**J*U*icEd** · 03-14-2005, 08:42 PM

b-12, and bromo

**Blown_SC** · 03-14-2005, 08:53 PM

Bromo and 200mgs of B6 a day........

I just asked a MOD for ya.......

**Thegr8One** · 03-14-2005, 09:04 PM

that's a wild cycle bro you have to post your results and how much breast milk you produce :lol

**rocky balboa** · 03-14-2005, 10:25 PM

hahhahaha.. crazy doses man.. cant expect anything much less than C cups from it

**spywizard** · 03-14-2005, 10:28 PM

This must be your 1st run with fina???

that is what is assumed because you didn't know about the b6..

bromo really works, but has some sides people don't like..

this is your 4th cycle.. good luck with it..

that's alot of test.. post up some picks..

and lets see your diet for this cycle..

**saluu** · 03-14-2005, 10:38 PM

ask micheal jackson he likes gyno he looks like a women anyways. now serious bromo and b-12 and i like provirion as well. winny is good as well to fight progesterone . but dont use deca and tren both increasae progesteron leveels you dont wanna be giving micheal breast milk if your a young kid. ha ah saluu roid monkey in da house

**LB55blitz** · 03-15-2005, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by saluu

ask micheal jackson he likes gyno he looks like a women anyways. now serious bromo and b-12 and i like provirion as well. winny is good as well to fight progesterone . but dont use deca and tren both increasae progesteron leveels you dont wanna be giving micheal breast milk if your a young kid. ha ah saluu roid monkey in da house

oh saluu you crazy juice monkey you

**FContact** · 03-14-2005, 11:16 PM

You don't get gyno from tren . Tren can cause prolactin levels to rise wich in turn can cause lactation to occur (galactorrhea). To remedy lactation issues, b6 or bromocriptine can be taken. I would opt to go with b6 first. A maintenance dose of 200mg/ed should suffice. If lactation were to occur then, 300mg in the am and 300mg in the pm should be administered. Aromatase inhibitors or SERMS, will to nothing to supress prolactin levels. Nandrolone can cause prolactin levels to elevate as well. Trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone.......

**BlocRoc** · 03-15-2005, 03:31 AM

Are people cofusing B-6 and B-12 in this post?

The first is for progesterone related gyno whilst the B-12 is for appetite stimulation, or so people a lot of the times want to believe...

Just something I noticed!

L8

**1Leader** · 03-15-2005, 07:41 AM

Lotta gear bro, but with fina b6

**CARNIVORE** · 03-15-2005, 08:12 AM

100mg ed of B6 while on Tren

**juiceinthehood** · 03-15-2005, 11:02 AM

dostinex i here is the best

**FContact** · 03-15-2005, 11:06 AM

250, with your cycle I feel it necassary to run an AI along with some B6. This should remedy any gyno problems and any lactation problems.....

**ChefJ** · 03-15-2005, 11:13 AM

HCG is pointless in this case. Until the end of the cycle anyway.

**250** · 03-16-2005, 07:01 PM

heres my complete cycle
week1-12 test e250-- 750wk
week 1-12 supertest250--750wk
week1-12 deca200--600wk
week12-24teste250--750wk
week12-24cyp250--750wk
week12-24eq200--600wk
week12-24tren enanthate200--500wk
week12-24t3--25mcgs day
week1-24arimidex--.25 day
week1-24hcg250iu a day to keep these puppies big
proviron last three mounths 25-50mgs a day
pct-clomid

states
20 years old
5'11
230 under10%bf
so far gained 30 pound in one mounth ill try to post some pics