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**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 02:25 PM

alright yall... i've decided to do var for 8wks @ 80mg's ED
now i also want to throw some clen in there, now my question is.. how much should i run and how long? im a rook when it comes to clen..
thanks in advance ~inevitable

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 02:43 PM

bump

**Swifto** · 06-23-2005, 02:47 PM

Use the search button:

'Clen Handbook'
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=clen+handbook

**paulastone** · 06-23-2005, 02:47 PM

80 mg var?? how much you weigh?
i've done 60-70mg and the shit was hurting my joints

I stick to 40-50mg now

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by paulastone

80 mg var?? how much you weigh?
i've done 60-70mg and the shit was hurting my joints

I stick to 40-50mg now

i weight 240.. i was thinkin about droppin it down to 60mg's a day

**paulastone** · 06-23-2005, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by inevitable

i weight 240.. i was thinkin about droppin it down to 60mg's a day

Is it your first time using var?
if so then start at 40-50mg/ed

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by paulastone

Is it your first time using var?
if so then start at 40-50mg/ed

ya its my first time using var... i'll try 50mg for 2 weeks and up the dosage if i can toleratte it.. thanks stone

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Use the search button:

'Clen Handbook'
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=clen+handbook

just the info i was looking for... thanks swift

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:14 PM

so how does this sound?

var @ 50mg ED wk1-8 (increased if i can handle the joint pain)
clen wk 1-2, 5-6 ( increased dosage if i feel fit)
now should i add some t3? and/or any other supps?

**paulastone** · 06-23-2005, 03:15 PM

I wouldn't bother with t3 but thats me!
good luck bro have fun

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:19 PM

so i should rule out the t3 cuz its my first cycle of clen , wat do u guys recommend suppliments wise when taking clen?
also u think i shoudl throw in some Trib and HCG to keep my natty test levels up?

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:44 PM

bump.

**Duke of Earl** · 06-23-2005, 03:53 PM

Funny - I've never got any joint pain from var, even at 75 mg ED, it just makes me a little moody - I think starting at 50mg & working your way up is the way to go.
Also if you get your bloodwork done at say week 6 or 7 and it's OK you could run it a little longer (say 10 weeks)

**JiGGaMaN** · 06-23-2005, 03:57 PM

i think running taurine is a good idea with clen

**inevitable** · 06-23-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Duke of Earl

Funny - I've never got any joint pain from var, even at 75 mg ED, it just makes me a little moody - I think starting at 50mg & working your way up is the way to go.
Also if you get your bloodwork done at say week 6 or 7 and it's OK you could run it a little longer (say 10 weeks)

sounds good... i can't wait this is my first var cycle! w00t!

**Duke of Earl** · 06-23-2005, 03:59 PM

i can't wait this is my first var cycle!

in that case you could even start at 40mg ED - that was my first cycle dose & i loved it.

**paulastone** · 06-23-2005, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Duke of Earl

Funny - I've never got any joint pain from var, even at 75 mg ED, it just makes me a little moody - I think starting at 50mg & working your way up is the way to go.
Also if you get your bloodwork done at say week 6 or 7 and it's OK you could run it a little longer (say 10 weeks)

Well the stuff dried me the hell out! as soon as i dropped the dosage i was fine.

**Defconx3** · 06-23-2005, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by inevitable

so i should rule out the t3 cuz its my first cycle of clen, wat do u guys recommend suppliments wise when taking clen? also u think i shoudl throw in some Trib and HCG to keep my natty test levels up?

I think you should leave the T3 for when you get more experience with Clen . As is mentioned in the clen handbook, you will want to get 4-5 grams of taurine per day, as clen depletes it from your liver. While taking clen, I found that V8 became my friend

, it is an excellent source of electrolytes and will help keep the clen cramps at bay.

As for the Trib and HCG , your natural test will be shutdown due to the var, so Trib will be useless for the most part during your cycle. Since you are running a pretty mild cycle, I say that HCG will be unnecessary during the cycle or even during the PCT. PCT wise you will be fine with a normal Clomid/Nolvadex PCT plan.

**tiger909** · 06-23-2005, 06:15 PM

inevitable keep us informed on progress plz im doing same thing in two weeks

**Tarkanian** · 06-23-2005, 08:30 PM

I'm on week 5 of my first var cycle at 40-50mg/day and so far havent experienced any joint pain. However, i have found that i have been moodier/quicker to get angry thats for sure...Since i am on no test this cycle (just var & eq) i have been taking ~4gm of trib ed to try to avoid shutdown...does anyone think thats enough to counteract shutdown?

**Baller9** · 06-23-2005, 11:20 PM

Whoa, I thought Var was supposed to be good for joints?!?? No?

**MCMARK** · 06-24-2005, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by inevitable

alright yall... i've decided to do var for 8wks @ 80mg's ED
now i also want to throw some clen in there, now my question is.. how much should i run and how long? im a rook when it comes to clen..
thanks in advance ~inevitable

HEY BRO..listen up clen will hit everybody differently ..i may be a newbie at gearing but have taken clen for years..now im 200+ and i cant do more than 50mg a day or i will snap,cant sleep,twitch,sweat ,and shake..lottsa fun side with this stuff..
also recommend taking it first thing in the morning and it should keep u hummin all day,but not up all night
. my training partner goes from starting at 60mg up to 200mg a day and has no sides at all, but all the benifits.
just start small and see how ur body reacts to it.
renember to take benadrly if ur taking it for more than 2 weeks ..
you wount need to cycle it every 2 weeks with the benedrly so you can stay on as long as u like ..gl
also add taurine supplement into ur diet since clen depletes it and extra water to help stop crammping