How long for Tongkat Ali to kick in

**Cuttup** · 11-18-2005, 06:22 PM

I added Tongkat and Tribukus to my post cycle last year and had success. After my last cycle,..(ending in October ) I only did Tribulus and had no results. Im running over GNC to get some Tongkat but was hoping someone had a suggestion of what manufacter to go with. The brand i used my last cycle is discontinued. How soon should I expect to get the libido working again and is one brand better than another.

Also,..anyone ever tried Stamina X? Thanks greatly

Cuttup

**shortie** · 11-18-2005, 09:36 PM

Make sure you use an extract of at least 50:1 preferably 100 or 200:1. You can buy LJ100 at a lot of different internet stroes and it is pretty effective. Just remember that while Tonkat wiil increase you free test it does nothing for your total test levels.

**spywizard** · 11-18-2005, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Cuttup

Im running over GNC

ya know.. with fighten words like that.. you may be the 1st to get banned by me on this board..

jk.... tongkat is the shit..

and yes to the other.. it works.

**Brent_G** · 11-18-2005, 10:12 PM

i take tongkat and tribulus everyday. It took about a month before i started noticing a difference. But now my gf has it rough.

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 10:13 PM

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

goose4....

**chest6** · 11-18-2005, 10:15 PM

i LOVE tongkat. I took eurycoma longifola..not sure what ratio..but its amazing. My libido has been insane since I finished it over a month ago..

**spywizard** · 11-18-2005, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

goose4....

both are good..

**Papi93** · 11-18-2005, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

goose4....

I used Tribex for a 4-AD prohormone cycle PCT. It brought my natural test levels back very quickly. I had some serious testicular atrophy and it worked wonders. Most will say trib is worthless because it doesn't have science backing it.
I just finished a PCT with clomid and nolva. I'm taking Redkat, right now, to keep increase my libidio. My nuts are up to par after the cycle but my mojo isn't. Supplement gurus recommended tongkat for this. I'll keep you posted on the results. The bottle says it will take up to 1 month to feel the effects

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**Ntpadude** · 11-19-2005, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

goose4....

I take redkat myself and just 2 pills a day... after a couple weeks if you are still ON cycle, you will notice a nice return in size to your shrunken nuts. In PCT this stuff is really good, I am in PCT after 9 months of deca use at 600 mg a week and I have had the easiest PCT ever!!! Even easier then an 8 week testosterone only cycle without tongkat. There was virtually no decline in sex drive, actually it increased steadily when I missed the shot on week #1 and 3 weeks after my last test e shot I was experiencing the best sex drive I've had in a year. Grant it I started by redkat/tongkat ali about 4 months ago and stayed on steady. Now that PCT is over (no more clomid, etc) I am still going very strong, the most incredible wife gagging cum loads of my life and not only a vigorous sex drive, but the enjoyability factor while having sex is better then any "on testosterone" cycle I ever been on.

Yes while you can actually see improvements in "deca dick" in just 1 week, it really takes 1 month for your body to fully respond. I was deca dicked really bad in my 4th month on deca/test and the testosterone I took with the deca wasnt helping, balls ached and shrunk very badly. I started tongkat as last ditch effort to prevent stopping the cycle and the aches ended within 2 days of starting, balls started growing back noticably well by end of first week and sex drive and ability to maintain hard-on improved in a big way, even though I continued my deca doses for another 4 months! I have done tribulus before, tribulus doesnt seem to do anything like tongkat, but tongkat is basically your herbal HCG taken by mouth, it can and does easily overpower deca dick and ball shrinkage while on cycle. Also makes your steroids more effective by keeping down your SHBG's which deactivate testosterone and near testosterone compounds.

**stupidhippo** · 11-19-2005, 03:23 AM

all this makes me really wanna get to purchase some TOngkat Ali.. the only thing is that we dont have it here, any good places to order?

**NotSmall** · 11-19-2005, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

Has anyone tried Biotests "Alpha Male" ? - I think it is Tribex & Redkat combined.

**Froggy** · 11-19-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

Also makes your steroids more effective by keeping down your SHBG's which deactivate testosterone and near testosterone compounds.

This is an interesting statement.

I like Tongkat also & use it with Tribulus in a combonation powder...I've used Tribulus alone before with less of an affect, but it still (IMO) adds support in the testicle department (yep...they have their own department)...

The combo powder works better...it is good...

**goose** · 11-19-2005, 08:08 AM

Thanks guys for the great advise,I think I will do this from now,add tribex and Redkat for 8 weeks during PCT for additional testosterone support,any ideas on does and cost?

goose4.....

**Papi93** · 11-19-2005, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

all this makes me really wanna get to purchase some TOngkat Ali.. the only thing is that we dont have it here, any good places to order?

Go to ************* and order from the Biotest store. The Redkat is very cheap there (72 capsules for $20).

**goose** · 11-19-2005, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I take redkat myself and just 2 pills a day... after a couple weeks if you are still ON cycle, you will notice a nice return in size to your shrunken nuts. In PCT this stuff is really good, I am in PCT after 9 months of deca use at 600 mg a week and I have had the easiest PCT ever!!! Even easier then an 8 week testosterone only cycle without tongkat. There was virtually no decline in sex drive, actually it increased steadily when I missed the shot on week #1 and 3 weeks after my last test e shot I was experiencing the best sex drive I've had in a year. Grant it I started by redkat/tongkat ali about 4 months ago and stayed on steady. Now that PCT is over (no more clomid, etc) I am still going very strong, the most incredible wife gagging cum loads of my life and not only a vigorous sex drive, but the enjoyability factor while having sex is better then any "on testosterone" cycle I ever been on.

Yes while you can actually see improvements in "deca dick" in just 1 week, it really takes 1 month for your body to fully respond. I was deca dicked really bad in my 4th month on deca/test and the testosterone I took with the deca wasnt helping, balls ached and shrunk very badly. I started tongkat as last ditch effort to prevent stopping the cycle and the aches ended within 2 days of starting, balls started growing back noticably well by end of first week and sex drive and ability to maintain hard-on improved in a big way, even though I continued my deca doses for another 4 months! I have done tribulus before, tribulus doesnt seem to do anything like tongkat, but tongkat is basically your herbal HCG taken by mouth, it can and does easily overpower deca dick and ball shrinkage while on cycle. Also makes your steroids more effective by keeping down your SHBG's which deactivate testosterone and near testosterone compounds.

Wow what a great post! What do you think is best,I use it all the time or when on cycle and PCT or PCT only.

goose4........

**Papi93** · 11-19-2005, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

Has anyone tried Biotests "Alpha Male" ? - I think it is Tribex & Redkat combined.

I wondered the same thing. The only thing is, the supplement gurus say that tribulus does nothing. I tend to disagree because my skin become very oily when I was taking 10 grams of trib ED (low quality brand from Optimum).

**Papi93** · 11-19-2005, 05:28 PM

Does anyone know the extract ratio for Redkat? 100:1?

**Brent_G** · 11-19-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Wow what a great post! What do you think is best,I use it all the time or when on cycle and PCT or PCT only.

goose4........

You can use it all year round. Thru the cycle and for pct.

I put both trib and tongkat ali. Works very well. People underestimate the power or natural herbs.

**Cuttup** · 11-20-2005, 12:04 PM

awesome stuff........just got some lastnight..100:1 30 tab 80 mg...it says for optimum results,..give 1-3 weeks..IT SUCLS THOUGH BECAUSE ALL 4 gnc'S IN MY AREA HAVE NOW DISCONTINUED IT,.ILL HAVE TO GO ONLINE FROM NOW,..THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR ADVICE..

CUTTUP

**Bryan2** · 11-20-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by striker93

I used Tribex for a 4-AD prohormone cycle PCT. It brought my natural test levels back very quickly. I had some serious testicular atrophy and it worked wonders. Most will say trib is worthless because it doesn't have science backing it.
I just finished a PCT with clomid and nolva. I'm taking Redkat, right now, to keep increase my libidio. My nuts are up to par after the cycle but my mojo isn't. Supplement gurus recommended tongkat for this. I'll keep you posted on the results. The bottle says it will take up to 1 month to feel the effects

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If you really want something with scientific research behind it then get an AI like arimidex and dose at .5mg for 3-4 weeks your test levels will nearly double!!!

Or go with the legal AI containned in ultra hotter/rebound xt

**Papi93** · 11-20-2005, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bryan2

If you really want something with scientific research behind it then get an AI like arimidex and dose at .5mg for 3-4 weeks your test levels will nearly double!!!

Or go with the legal AI containned in ultra hotter/rebound xt

Does the arimidex elevate your test levels beyond high normal? If you are off-cycle, would this hinder your recovery? That is my situation now. Thanks for all the help you have given me with the supplements

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**Ntpadude** · 11-21-2005, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by striker93

Does anyone know the extract ratio for Redkat? 100:1?

400:1

I also found your body becomes more and more responsive to tongkat over time. Like you might not be so impress the first time, after all no LH stimulant will take you over a certain level which is probably roughly equivalent to 150 to 200 mg test e bi-weekly in natural production. But I have noticed, either the red kat is more powerful now then when it first came out, or else even if I take 3 to 6 months off between usages, by body becomes quicker to respond to it on succeeding uses.

I also know someone who wanted to boost testostoerone levels but not willing to do steroids . After 2 months on tongkat, he is getting bacne from tongkat and also grew a friggin 1 full inch on his arms working out in the gym. Prior to that, same workout program was only netting him about 1/4 inch per year in arm growth. I'd say it seems this person has seen some pretty interesting results from tongkat ali alone.

**Ntpadude** · 11-21-2005, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

Anyone heard,of Tribex and Redkat? I hear these are great for additional test support?

goose4....

The thing with tribulus is the scientific studies have shown it works something like the way echinachia does when boosting your immunity to fight a cold. You get a temporary boost that peaks out in 10 days, after that the boost drops back to baseline.

There is also evidence that tribulus also substantially boosts production of aromatase emzyme which results in increased estrogen production. The reason for the 10 day boost then drop back in testosterone production is probably the estrogen it generates begins to inhibit testosterone production. It seems to me, taking tribulus during a cycle without an aromatase inhibitor could be disasterous or dangerous for those prone to gyno. For that matter I used to take tribex during cycles and had itchy sensative nipples which kept me taking nolvadex . Since I dropped the tribulus, I noticed I can do cycles and not need to take any anti-e's at all. In otherwords, in my opinion, the tribulus had no effect on ball regrowth and it actually made me take a lot of nolva that I otherwise did not need to take, etc.

**Papi93** · 11-25-2005, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

400:1

I also found your body becomes more and more responsive to tongkat over time. Like you might not be so impress the first time, after all no LH stimulant will take you over a certain level which is probably roughly equivalent to 150 to 200 mg test e bi-weekly in natural production. But I have noticed, either the red kat is more powerful now then when it first came out, or else even if I take 3 to 6 months off between usages, by body becomes quicker to respond to it on succeeding uses.

I also know someone who wanted to boost testostoerone levels but not willing to do steroids. After 2 months on tongkat, he is getting bacne from tongkat and also grew a friggin 1 full inch on his arms working out in the gym. Prior to that, same workout program was only netting him about 1/4 inch per year in arm growth. I'd say it seems this person has seen some pretty interesting results from tongkat ali alone.

Thanks for the info., Ntpadude! 400:1, that a lot better than I thought it was going to be. It looks like I have a good product on my hand

. I noticed that my nuts have been on swole from the Redkat. It will be interesting to see the results from a full cycle of Redkat.

**savax** · 11-30-2005, 10:20 AM

I've been ordering my Tongkat from Ebay in the raw powder form and man, it makes my loads HUGE. Papi93 - apart from swollen nuts, are you hornier and have your loads been a lot bigger? This is what i've noticed with mine. Also, PM me where u get your Redkat from

**Papi93** · 12-02-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by savax

I've been ordering my Tongkat from Ebay in the raw powder form and man, it makes my loads HUGE. Papi93 - apart from swollen nuts, are you hornier and have your loads been a lot bigger? This is what i've noticed with mine. Also, PM me where u get your Redkat from

My loads are bigger but I'm not sure if it increased my libido. If it did like 4AD, I think I would notice. I had to have sex everyday or I would be

. I loved that shit. Not sure how to get my hands on it now. I was taking 1 gram transdermally. Check your PMs, brah.